Holy Content Batman! Lot to read
Ok, I'm going to go over any thoughts/concerns I have with any reads, maybe ask questions.
PZ
819 is of particular interest of me as LM does seem to repeatedly do this, I see several posts attack odd people today,
787 seems like an attempt at discrediting Dann's reads,
785 just feels of blaming someone for not immediately having consensus and makes me feel off as town can't be sure who's who.
809 against PZ is a complete dismissal of his analysis where i feel points given are accurate to a decent degree.
745 against Gamma in particular seems like an unreasonable attack to me. Of note is he does this while pushing the Hayker vote silently almost as if scum trying to make the day go by as fast as possible.
In post 805, Papa Zito wrote:I can't get anything else from the Elements vote (260) The self-imposed vote restriction is extremely aggravating.
I disagree, his supposed "I'm going to vote everyone once D1" didn't really happen, He didn't vote several people, including me. obfuscation of intent?
I do think not rushing this day has at least helped us so that we can come back again similar to D1. This and pushing the IC to interact with him later gives me a Townlean on PZ.
Dann
Thank you for the well thought out argument on the game setup, it helps me solidify some of my thoughts. Though I find the WIFOM from PZ to be Okish as he was unaware of you as an enabler at the time.
Your read on HWS seems similar to mine
790 you pointed out the framing of hayker, but in addition it appears to role fish to try and ask other town to counterclaim to give mafia good shots to make.
hayker did TMI read on PZ? as in to much information to sort? I still find player meta stuff to be icky. either way, Hayker's "casing" of PZ hardly changes my opinion on both of them.
unwnd
While I like the consideration of the scum agenda I see no reason why you didn't cover Hayker's 3rd potential agenda, however unlikely it may be.
Is gamma's response or lack thereof in line with what you read on them?
Kazyan
you haven't addressed
871 and continue to avoid answering that. can you respond?
has your read on GE and LM progressed at all since? you can wait to answer for after the potential elaboration post
A general list of my reads I've compiled
Dann
_Town _ Mod announcement
PZ
_ Townlean/??? _ D2 info delay + providing info + reads that seem accurate, if a bit WIFOMy
unwnd/NPOM
_ Townlean/??? _ Both provide info by provoking town into engagement, unwnd asking Kazyan to not necessarily rethink the Hayker vote but to be sure and examine the situation carefully.
Kazyan
_ ???/Townlean _ consistant explanation of motivation + thought out read on GE & LM - vote on hayker and be done with day = townlean
Gamma
_ ??? _ Again, I can't get enough here, the recent pop-in seems more a result of the prod and I wouldn't make it negative, looking forward to elaboration post.
Elements
_ ???/Scumlean _ When he does post it doesn't feel like it contributes much, purposely tries to obscure voting intentions.
LM
_ Scumlean/??? _ PZ points out correctly that he attacks random people for reasons I see as flimsy. Has attacked PZ,Gamma, HWS, NPOM/unwnd, as for
905 ELI5? making a huff about being discredited earlier only makes it stand out more to me.
HWS
_ Scumlean/??? _ Leans on player meta to defend hayker. Crappy role fishing. General Non-Participation(not just activity, but also content).
Hayker
_ ScumHeavylean _ I don't care about KH mafia, I feel it's pretty easy to change gameplay even minutely, this game is currently more important.
