Sunny 2: Rules of Im-peachment - Over!

[Pink Ball]

No talking about replacement, that's against the rules.

No one has been an asshole to anyone.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Right, I forgot that Shelly was a cheater.

[Something_Smart]

Literally, Hopkirk and Hectic just told me 'Do your regular thing you do in real life and other people should townread you pretty quickly' and vanished to focus on their respective games.

This is roughly what I was thinking of-- I figured they wouldn't throw you into this without some guidance of some kind. If you're having trouble figuring out how to get reads, you definitely should ask them. I doubt they were setting you up as a joke.

[Jingle]

I can replace out if people think I'm actually being an asshole.

In all honesty, I'm glazing over your 1v1, but I don't think either of you are being particularly assholish by my standards. It just seems like a really boring fight that's not actually going to make either of you more solveable.

Might be worth it for both of you to disengage and look at other people. Maybe ignore each other until Wednesday?

[Jake The Wolfie]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you really haven't done much to move the game forward recently besides asking Gamma the same question. I get that you want an answer from him, but it would be nice if you did other things as well.

Why did you choose to go after me in particular?

[Zaiden]

everyone else going off vibes from prior experience/be able to tell what player based scum slips are

Who has been doing this? I might have missed this, but I haven’t really gotten the feeling that most people are using meta to scumread others.

Some reads don't make sense and when people don't bother explaining the only way to rationalise it in my mind is meta. So SFP full townreads SpringBreeze just because they feel like it and that's supposed to make total sense without any sort of justification? Wouldn't the gap in needing to explain anything therefore be meta? As for the lack of response over my queries on Pooky/SpringBreeze. Again, wouldn't the lack of any explaining anything be a gap that's filled in everyone else's mind by meta? Apparently Gamma was scumlean to some people because of being pedantic, which again sounds like a gap that's being filled with meta. Like why must being pedantic be a scum indicative thing? Because if you ask me, none of these responses (or the lack thereof) make any sense without using meta to explain why some players would hold a certain opinion. Because I'm being asked to take things at face value which I personally just can't take at face value in the absence of any actual explanation.

[midwaybear]

Why did you choose to go after me in particular?

Because I'm scared of Pooky

Your vote on Gamma wasn't great, and you were falling under the radar. Do you find me scummy for going after you?

[Something_Smart]

I can replace out if people think I'm actually being an asshole.

You're not being an asshole, and please don't talk about replacing out.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Wouldn't the gap in needing to explain anything therefore be meta?

It could be gut, faked townread, testing for a reaction, or something else. Meta doesn't have to be the first answer.

[staypositivefriend]

everyone else going off vibes from prior experience/be able to tell what player based scum slips are

Who has been doing this? I might have missed this, but I haven’t really gotten the feeling that most people are using meta to scumread others.

Some reads don't make sense and when people don't bother explaining the only way to rationalise it in my mind is meta.

So SFP full townreads SpringBreeze just because they feel like it and that's supposed to make total sense without any sort of justification

? Wouldn't the gap in needing to explain anything therefore be meta? As for the lack of response over my queries on Pooky/SpringBreeze. Again, wouldn't the lack of any explaining anything be a gap that's filled in everyone else's mind by meta? Apparently Gamma was scumlean to some people because of being pedantic, which again sounds like a gap that's being filled with meta. Like why must being pedantic be a scum indicative thing? Because if you ask me, none of these responses (or the lack thereof) make any sense without using meta to explain why some players would hold a certain opinion. Because I'm being asked to take things at face value which I personally just can't take at face value in the absence of any actual explanation.

if the "SFP" in this post is referring to me, then i haven't outed a stance on springbreeze yet, and i also am not being purposefully coy with my reads. feel free to ask me for my stances on anyone here - i am an open book

and ftr, the reason i didn't respond to your inquiry about pooky earlier is because i have zero experience with how pooky plays as scum, and a question that specifically revolves around his meta isn't something i felt qualified to answer. it had nothing to do w/my choice to vote him last night either

[Jake The Wolfie]

Why did you choose to go after me in particular?

Because I'm scared of Pooky

Your vote on Gamma wasn't great, and you were falling under the radar. Do you find me scummy for going after you?

No, I don't.

Why wouldn't you choose to go after someone who's been a little less contentful (like Clidd/Morning Tweet, for example.)

[midwaybear]

So SFP full townreads SpringBreeze just because they feel like it and that's supposed to make total sense without any sort of justification? Wouldn't the gap in needing to explain anything therefore be meta?

I'm going to assume you are talking about MariaR here. I think the way she presented the read leaves room for the method she used. Perhaps it was a meta read, but Maria could also have found some of Spring's posts townie independent of such. It's definitely understandable that Maria hiding the reasoning doesn't sit right.

As for the lack of response over my queries on Pooky/SpringBreeze. Again, wouldn't the lack of any explaining anything be a gap that's filled in everyone else's mind by meta?

Yeah, I explained the dynamic between them earlier. Take a look at 638. This is the one example of meta being used as a read that I will acknowledge.

Apparently Gamma was scumlean to some people because of being pedantic, which again sounds like a gap that's being filled with meta. Like why must being pedantic be a scum indicative thing?

Being pedantic isn't scum indicative. Jake's vote was not a good vote for that reason.

Because I'm being asked to take things at face value which I personally just can't take at face value in the absence of any actual explanation.

Yeah, so it seems that sometimes you interpret scumreads/townreads on others as meta when it isn't really. Earlier in this game, you talked about catching scum based on inconsistencies. Can you talk more on that?

[midwaybear]

Why wouldn't you choose to go after someone who's been a little less contentful (like Clidd/Morning Tweet, for example.)

If MT follows the same pattern as you, I will definitely go after her.
Now is there a reason your content level dropped off? You have been deflecting a bit for your past few posts.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Why wouldn't you choose to go after someone who's been a little less contentful (like Clidd/Morning Tweet, for example.)

If MT follows the same pattern as you, I will definitely go after her.
Now is there a reason your content level dropped off? You have been deflecting a bit for your past few posts.

I am not aware of this.

[Jingle]

What game was this?

viewtopic.php?f=51&t=84671

If you're looking for scum Noraa meta, Ari pointed me at MafiaSunny for a stronger game and Booneytoonz14 for a weaker game. I would pull up a link, but I'm being lazy atm.

[Jingle]

Why wouldn't you choose to go after someone who's been a little less contentful (like Clidd/Morning Tweet, for example.)

I don't know how I feel about being left out of {lowpostingexamples} while you included someone who's not actually in this game.

[Pink Ball]

He gave only one example; Clidd/Morning Tweet is the same slot

[Jingle]

Shhh... I'm pointing out how half assed my content has been to see what happens.

[Pink Ball]

Oh shit sorry!

[SirCakez]

Why wouldn't you choose to go after someone who's been a little less contentful (like Clidd/Morning Tweet, for example.)

I don't know how I feel about being left out of {lowpostingexamples} while you included someone who's not actually in this game.

Yo this seems very LAMIST

[SirCakez]

I already didn't like Jingles opening

[midwaybear]

Nah, feels like LAMISS

[Jingle]

Excellent. Talk about me more, Cakez. Your words give me power.

[SirCakez]

BTW, the inventory mechanic has me suspecting that there is the possibility of power role distribution.

Town.

Sources say that midway is very scummy.

I haven't read anything yet.

Gross

Your last post is somewhat towny though.

Why do you think that?

Votes on Cheetory right now seem forced

forced from who, specifically? that's some pretty broad shade to throw if you're not gonna name names

Town

Noraa you're scum aren't you?

Nope.

To start this game off, I would like to present:

The Basterdies!

An award granted to players who have moderated at least one game I feel like fits the soul of Basterd Modding! What that means is fair yet fun game design that messes with players' heads.
Our recipients are:

1. Gypyx: His normal moderation practices exhibit strong adherence to the idea of Basterd Modding (games awarded for: Mini 2180, Mini 2169)
   
2. Flavor Leaf: on his account Boonskiies, he is a firm believer in the power of Basterd Modding, creating astonishingly creative and well-made theme games, generally staying normal-esque but sometimes breaking out of the normal-esque mold to create something truly wild! (games awarded for: Booneytoonz Extravaganza, Booneytoonz UPick: Boon There, Done That)
   
3. Dr Easy Bake: Using the moderating account of The Baker, he even has his own brand of modding to himself called Baker-Level Bastard, he loves moderating impressively well-crafted large themes that encapsulate his interest as well as the spirit of Basterd Modding. (games awarded for: Redneck Mafia, Guitarists Mafia)
   
4. Hectic:
   
5. thestatusquo
   
6. Cheetory6
   
7. Jake the Wolfie
   
8. almost50
   
9. the worst
   
10. Jingle
    
11. Pine
    
12. xRECKONERx

(I got sidetracked and decided I'd just rather post this in this state vs spend ?????? amount of time finshing it)

Trash tier. Both of those Gypyx games are Normals, and as such not not bastard at all. DEB should clearly have taken it, SirCakez, chk, and Ginngie didn't even make the list, and you didn't make a comprehensive list of all the Jester/Cult/Actually bastard games I've modded. Also, everybody knows Cheetory doesn't really exist and is just a puppet for the great and mighty Gork.

if i'm able to concentrate the momentum of the game onto a specific player early on, then it tells me a lot about both the dynamics of the game and the alignment of the player i'm pushing on.

Or it tells you how many people baa like a sheep.

I am your designated sheep captain, and all sheeps must answer to me.

hello, best town player of the earth here, let's catch some red PMs

Found one.

your head's all messed up then sir

and i think it's just gamma being gamma otherwise, now of course if he keeps thing that way i won't hesitate to hop on

pedit : what does pedantic mean?

pedantic: The quality of focusing on an insignificant detail to criticize the whole of an argument.

Zaiden, you are funny. Very very funny

Wrong.

Jingle feels particularly difficult to read atm.

Look, I'm flattered and all, but could you please stop rubbing my face? It got awkward about ten minutes in.

VOTE: Gypyx

Srs Business.

I was keeping this in my pocket but this wall seems so fake

[Untrod Tripod]

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