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Post Post #2275 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:07 am

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In post 2270, Spring Breeze wrote:i still have yet to catch up on everything, but i struggle to see how that case was in good faith
I'm curious, how were you aware that case had been made? Considering your last real post was a number of pages before that. Have you been following the thread?
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Post Post #2276 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:07 am

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In post 2274, SirCakez wrote:Get ninjaed Murder
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Post Post #2277 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:08 am

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and especially with the "sitting on it" as well. if you were so unsatisfied with my reasonings, for basically being not good enough for you, why couldn't you ask me about it?

@pink ball, i'll just repeat i don't think "why didn't you vote someone then" is ever a good argument. i could ask you why you didn't vote me the whole day if i was *that* scum to you. like, what about that = scum? you'd have to spell it out to me
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Post Post #2278 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:08 am

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In post 2270, Spring Breeze wrote:i still have yet to catch up on everything, but i struggle to see how that case was in good faith
I will not let you play the victim, SB. It's a scum case on you, and I didn't try to set a trap on you or anything. You're my biggest scumread and I told everyone why, I'm not setting you up. So stop trying to push this rethoric.
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Post Post #2279 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:09 am

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thing is that, yes, while i do belive it is possible for him to have such a read, it looks really superficial to me, and he's doesn't actually try to play or solve with someone who's apparently soul mason level of towniness

am I the only one bothered by this?
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Post Post #2280 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:09 am

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In post 2275, MURDERSUNNY wrote:
In post 2270, Spring Breeze wrote:i still have yet to catch up on everything, but i struggle to see how that case was in good faith
I'm curious, how were you aware that case had been made? Considering your last real post was a number of pages before that. Have you been following the thread?
i skimmed a little, i did see zaiden questions and spf questions, but this case was just plain bad
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Post Post #2281 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:11 am

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In post 2278, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 2270, Spring Breeze wrote:i still have yet to catch up on everything, but i struggle to see how that case was in good faith
I will not let you play the victim, SB. It's a scum case on you, and I didn't try to set a trap on you or anything. You're my biggest scumread and I told everyone why, I'm not setting you up. So stop trying to push this rethoric.
how am i playing the victim? how is me saying i don't think your case was in good faith playing the victim? just so you know i actually dislike remarks on this because i feel like it goes slightly into the attacking the character part, but maybe i am too sensitive
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Post Post #2282 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:12 am

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In post 2281, Spring Breeze wrote:
In post 2278, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 2270, Spring Breeze wrote:i still have yet to catch up on everything, but i struggle to see how that case was in good faith
I will not let you play the victim, SB. It's a scum case on you, and I didn't try to set a trap on you or anything. You're my biggest scumread and I told everyone why, I'm not setting you up. So stop trying to push this rethoric.
how am i playing the victim? how is me saying i don't think your case was in good faith playing the victim? just so you know i actually dislike remarks on this because i feel like it goes slightly into the attacking the character part, but maybe i am too sensitive
Ftr I don't think it was a personal attack like that. Sounds like he's just saying it was scummy the way you reacted basically.
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Post Post #2283 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:12 am

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In post 2279, Gypyx wrote:thing is that, yes, while i do belive it is possible for him to have such a read, it looks really superficial to me, and he's doesn't actually try to play or solve with someone who's apparently soul mason level of towniness

am I the only one bothered by this?
This bothers me too but idk I don't know their relationship well enough.
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Post Post #2284 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:13 am

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In post 2275, MURDERSUNNY wrote:
In post 2270, Spring Breeze wrote:i still have yet to catch up on everything, but i struggle to see how that case was in good faith
I'm curious, how were you aware that case had been made? Considering your last real post was a number of pages before that. Have you been following the thread?
This is a great point
Could it be that Spring Breeze was lurking and reading the game but not posting?
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Post Post #2285 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:14 am

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In post 2278, Pink Ball wrote:ou're my biggest scumread and I told everyone why, I'm not setting you up.
also i have just said why i think you're setting me up, because you were noticeably unsatisfied with some of my vagueness or the fact that i didn't explain things thoroughly but didn't ask me about them at all. instead, you let it bubble *so* you had evidence for this.

p-edit: okay, but i'd appreciate if you'd stop using it, thanks
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Post Post #2286 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:14 am

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In post 2277, Spring Breeze wrote:and especially with the "sitting on it" as well. if you were so unsatisfied with my reasonings, for basically being not good enough for you, why couldn't you ask me about it?
'Cause this is exactly why I'm scumreading you: you wait for someone to ask you about your reads so you can make interactions, instead of giving your insights as whole, 'cause you don't have them. Why would I give you content to work on if that's the main reason I was scumreading?
In post 2277, Spring Breeze wrote: @pink ball, i'll just repeat i don't think "why didn't you vote someone then" is ever a good argument. i could ask you why you didn't vote me the whole day if i was *that* scum to you. like, what about that = scum? you'd have to spell it out to me
You were heavily townreading Zaiden while voting him and voted Jingle when it turned convenient/you wouldn't get confronted/hide behind someone bigger (Maria in this case).

I explicitly said I was using my vote to put pressure where I thought it was needed (Noraa); I didn't need to put pressure on you, I already did it with my blank vote and it worked.

You could ask what you want, you're not doing it tho. Also you have me as a nullread because I have no content, only short liners and short questions. It's a little ironic that you believe that while you think I have made a bad faith case on you 'cause I didn't ask you about your reads. Which one is it: my content is just short liners and questions, or I don't make enough questions about intentions?
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Post Post #2287 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:15 am

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In post 2283, SirCakez wrote:
In post 2279, Gypyx wrote:thing is that, yes, while i do belive it is possible for him to have such a read, it looks really superficial to me, and he's doesn't actually try to play or solve with someone who's apparently soul mason level of towniness

am I the only one bothered by this?
This bothers me too but idk I don't know their relationship well enough.
alright, i'll wait to see what he has to say on that one then
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Post Post #2288 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:16 am

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SB's reaction seems very defensive.
@SB are you calling Pink Ball scum here for his case? That's how it read to me.
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Post Post #2289 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:17 am

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In post 2288, SirCakez wrote:SB's reaction seems very defensive.
@SB are you calling Pink Ball scum here for his case? That's how it read to me.
Like this is my definition of shade since Murder was confused about that.
Dissing everything Pink Ball posted without actually calling it scummy.
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Post Post #2290 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:18 am

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In post 2285, Spring Breeze wrote:
In post 2278, Pink Ball wrote:ou're my biggest scumread and I told everyone why, I'm not setting you up.
also i have just said why i think you're setting me up, because you were noticeably unsatisfied with some of my vagueness or the fact that i didn't explain things thoroughly but didn't ask me about them at all. instead, you let it bubble *so* you had evidence for this.

p-edit: okay, but i'd appreciate if you'd stop using it, thanks
You're minimizing my read on you to "some vagueness". I don't scumread you for being vague, I scumread you because you had no real insights and tried to hide behind someone's back, either your teammates or someone else's content.

Also, as you may notice, I talked very well mannered about the inflection point: my scumread was formed BEFORE I blank voted you, so the "you let it bubble so you had evidence for this" is a lie. Once again, you're trying to minimize this to "you set me up".

If I'm setting you up, then I'm scum, right? Why don't you vote me?
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Post Post #2291 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:19 am

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Alright. I'm gonna shift my vote back to Spring Breeze because I'm not convinced by their response to Pink Ball and they didn't address what I asked them.

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Post Post #2292 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:19 am

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In post 2286, Pink Ball wrote:'Cause this is exactly why I'm scumreading you: you wait for someone to ask you about your reads so you can make interactions, instead of giving your insights as whole, 'cause you don't have them. Why would I give you content to work on if that's the main reason I was scumreading?
no, the right thing to do here would be to *solve* me, by asking me questions, prodding me, and if you found that unsatisfactory, then you make the case. that literally does not require you to give out your cards or anything. the fact that you didn't tells me you're not solving me

pedit: i am calling him scum, yes. that's just the way i say things
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Post Post #2293 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:22 am

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In post 2288, SirCakez wrote:SB's reaction seems very defensive.
Insight of the century, here.

Though, one does not simply ignore a case like that. So of course she has to be.
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Post Post #2294 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:22 am

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In post 2290, Pink Ball wrote:If I'm setting you up, then I'm scum, right? Why don't you vote me?
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I am not inclined to move my vote here.
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Post Post #2295 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:22 am

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In post 2290, Pink Ball wrote:You're minimizing my read on you to "some vagueness". I don't scumread you for being vague, I scumread you because you had no real insights and tried to hide behind someone's back, either your teammates or someone else's content.

Also, as you may notice, I talked very well mannered about the inflection point: my scumread was formed BEFORE I blank voted you, so the "you let it bubble so you had evidence for this" is a lie. Once again, you're trying to minimize this to "you set me up".

If I'm setting you up, then I'm scum, right? Why don't you vote me?
can you respond to my post?

i wanted to finish reading the thread completely. i wrote that first because i couldn't help it. you're right VOTE: pink ball
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Post Post #2296 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:22 am

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In post 2293, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 2288, SirCakez wrote:SB's reaction seems very defensive.
Insight of the century, here.

Though, one does not simply ignore a case like that. So of course she has to be.
I mean like over-defensive.
Like you can respond to a case defending yourself but her tone and aforementioned shade at Pink Ball seem unjustified.
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Post Post #2297 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:23 am

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SB because this advice helped me earlier: you should catch up and then respond to things.
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Post Post #2298 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:24 am

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I don't think so? Given that she does scumread PB (not an instinct I'd have, but a natural one, to be sure) I think her response was pretty reasonable.
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Post Post #2299 (ISO) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:25 am

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Agree to disagree.
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