Mini Normal 2187: PIFiMDM [game over!]

[Datisi]

Vote count 3.08

with 7 votes in play, it takes 4 to make a decision. day 3 ends in (expired on 2021-01-22 12:30:00).

execution

Elements [2]:

Lunar Martian, Kazyan

2ndchosen1 [1]:

unwnd

Kazyan [1]:

Elements

Not voting [3]:

Dannflor

, northsidegal, 2ndchosen1

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[unwnd]

I'm a little annoyed with how 2ndchosen is treating me and I can't determine if it's just scum unable to respond to pressure or town out in space

[Elements]

fwiw I think it's scum
I also don't like their reaction to nsg

[unwnd]

His responses are just

So milquetoast. Like they're trying really hard not to offend anyone. That's the impression I got when he unvoted me as well

[Elements]

all their read list reasons don't rlly seem like alignment reasons either way

[Elements]

NSG - unsure if death tunneling on Ele or if opportunistic crusade. has ~reasons~ for thinking the way she does. Between Ele interaction with Kazyan, I am now looking back on the interaction with Hayker as a Mafia targeting a random town to spread confusion.

Like, this is only about the tunnel on me. The only bit about 2nds actual read on nsg is the start where they state they don't know if it's a scum move or not.

[Elements]

the rest is 2nd coming around to town!me

[Elements]

Kazyan - actually listening to the person he scumread, 1027 still comes to mind. Favorable history of interactions.

What does 1027 have to do with Kazyan? and why is listening to your top scumread and agreeing with them make someone town?

[Elements]

LM - Sees no problem with current situation and wants to coast in the Ele elim. This is despite pushing bad(but failed) elims earlier and yet still building consensus on reads.

this isn't a reason. This is what LM said they are doing in the last two posts

[unwnd]

Elements, right now in my mind I kinda think it's you/2nd. It seems that right now you're just coming around to 2nd possibly being scum but your vote remains on Kaz. Why? Do you think 2nd is just trying to get his mate by on an unsubstantiated TR?

[Elements]

I was gonna finish off dissecting 2nds read list and then vote there

[Elements]

but sure I can move my vote now
VOTE: 2nd
I like building up to a vote

[unwnd]

That seems fair. I think this is a fine split actually and I probably won't change my vote

[Elements]

unwnd - still hasn't answered my questions, and appears to be dancing to avoid them. I would like to see a reads list here. I don't necessarily like the calm of Dann/unwnd/nsg. Two people who are comfortable together making good with the IC makes me wary.

the first two points are fine. I would like a reason behind the paranoia of unwnd/nsg talking to Dann making 2nd wary

[Elements]

Ele - Generally strung up for iffy behavior but recent interactions have me looking upon

them

more favorably. Especially

their

questioning of Kazyan to believe

them

, I don't see why scum wouldn't try and take that and run at least a little. 1259 in particular convinces me of this, there are only two options.

again with the randomly chosen post. what does 1259 have to do with me?

[2ndchosen1]

His responses are just

So milquetoast. Like they're trying really hard not to offend anyone. That's the impression I got when he unvoted me as well

My intention was to actually get a more condensed view out of you

Kazyan - actually listening to the person he scumread, 1027 still comes to mind. Favorable history of interactions.

What does 1027 have to do with Kazyan? and why is listening to your top scumread and agreeing with them make someone town?

I meant 1072 apologies. it was late for me when I posted that.

[unwnd]

It's all right there man

I dunno why you refuse to read it, or at least clarify what you didn't find understandble lol

[Lunar Martian]

I mean, 2ndchosen, what do you think of me repeatedly saying that NSG is my most confident town read and someone I'm basically never considering as scum at this point.

I'm not asking you to sheep me unquestionably but I found it so odd you're pursuing this seemingly without pause or without questioning my read?

I don't think Mafia ever makes that play though.

[Lunar Martian]

Well I'm going to head off and either check in the morning or lunch
until then UNVOTE:

Wow I see we were really committed to that NSG vote, weren't we?

I initially didn't see how Mafia would ever want to make that play, but elements pushing back half-heartedly suggests maybe it was a chainsaw? I just don't see why.

[Lunar Martian]

I'll check in to this thread at least once more before signing off for the night, but 10 hours remaining and we need to consolidate. Why are people hesitant to vote elements? I would do any of elements, 2nd, or kaz, in that order.

[Dannflor]

VOTE: elements

nsg isn't scum.

[northsidegal]

is that the green light to end the day then, dann?

if i'm alive tomorrow i'm not going to just ignore your other reads but just asking in case there's anything else pressing you want made clear before day's over

[Dannflor]

if I had to pick a team it would be elements/2nd

I still feel like, good, about my Kazyan read but not confident enough to like ardently defend them

[Dannflor]

but yeah I think it would be best to end the day

[northsidegal]

here goes nothing then

VOTE: elements