Sunny 2: Rules of Im-peachment - Over!

[midwaybear]

He was scum. I was thinking more of the situation, but could be true for alignment too!

[SirCakez]

I am sheeping SPF somewhat on Gypyx but but I also feel he has been rather defensive this game and seems to be playing pretty survivalistically as opposed to putting himself out there on reads.

Are you sheeping SPF or is Gypyx your strongest SR, as you said earlier?

Why can't it be both?
Like if you made a diagram of my Gypyx scumread sheeping SPF would be 33% but then the other 66% would be the original reasoning on my own that I've pointed out.
I find SPF to be quite town so her approval of Gypyx scum makes me feel more confident.

pings me slightly that cakez is piggybacking on my case on gypyx, knowing full well that i had moved gypyx to a "townlean" just last night

I must have missed that. I was referring to your older push on him and I assumed you were still SRing him. My bad.

[SirCakez]

MURDERSUNNY - null leaning town
Gypyx - null leaning town
noraa - townlean
Zaiden - town
Pink Ball - townlean
Jingle - null
Something_Smart - null
Spring Breeze - scumlean
MariaR - null
PookyTheMagicalBear - townlean
SirCakez - null leaning town
Morning Tweet - townlean
PrivateI - scumlean
Jake The Wolfie scumlean
Gamma Emerald - null
midwaybear - townlean
Cheetory6 - town

Noting this for later.

sircakez directly took note of the post where i townleaned gypyx but then said that he was "sheeping" my read on him a few hours later e___e

I was noting this for associatives and flips later in the game, the reads didn't stick in my head.

[SirCakez]

This is giving me some Xenoblade Cakez vibes. I'm pretty bad at making reads in these situations, but I think I'll iso Kanna later and talk with the team.

was xenoblade scum!cakez or town!cakez?

Very famously scum. Cabd caught me within 24 hours and nailed me to the wall.

[SirCakez]

He was scum. I was thinking more of the situation, but could be true for alignment too!

What situation?

[midwaybear]

Pink Ball v Kanna

[SirCakez]

What's the equivalent in Xeno 2?

[midwaybear]

You versus Cabd. Since you didn't immediately pick up on it, then maybe this is inaccurate.

[MURDERSUNNY]

VOTE: Spring Breeze

Time for a claim, no?
Here is my locked in, D1 solve:

{Cake, Spring Breeze, Maria, Jake}

[Gypyx]

okay so, the great maria wall aka : i spent more than 1 minute thinking about this post :

first of all, the early back and forth out of cakes

Hello hello did you miss me? I know you did. Anyway let us vote a wolf shall we? Here I'll start.
VOTE: Cakez

which like, this post comes after 14 pages of maria waiting it out, and yet she strats with a pretty much random vote, which like, i'm really not a fan of, especially how it's only retracted upon pressure

then there's the view on self meta, which i find incosistent with maria's acts, so that also leans scum

Spoiler:

It was mostly a joke at Cakez because I made the exact same kinda post at him before when he a wolf. I assume he guessed that given his lackluster reaction

pout

If you want my serious vote at the moment it's this:
VOTE: zaiden
I'm not normally the one to start spearheading wagons so I'll simply ask people to look closer at this slot and if you can see the few glaring flaws that me and 1 of my team members saw. (At least when I was ranting they agreed)

"i don't really push peoples too much"

Spoiler:

It's very amusing to hear that kind of argument since you couldn't get further from my personality if you tried. Anyway it's not like I'm going to be the day 1 fade. I can care less if you TR me or have me at null branch off me to more important matters unless you really find this so pressing.

how exactly is your personality so incompatible with these kinds of plays?

and yeah, doubt you'll be the D1 fade, but like, not a reason to disregard points made against you

I can not recall a single time in my mafia carrier that I as scum have stopped pushing someone because I was worried about the reaction/heat I would get from it. Take that as you will

and here, maria says she isn't afraid of pushing peoples, while showing reluctance to push earlier

actually

i retract that read

keeping the previous construiction as i still feel like it made some valid points, but i recalled maria as arguing about her general play, not her scum play

in that case, i'd even stretch that as +town

so uh yeah me dumb

pedit : anything that i missed about the green laughing person murder?

[Pink Ball]

Mine contains SB, Noraa and Gamma. Jake is a good alternative. SS is another good alternative. Maria if I had to get paranoid and think of a deepwolf.

So we're not that far away.

[MURDERSUNNY]

anything that i missed about the green laughing person murder?

Idk I'm doing preflip associatives, you should ask someone with meta.

[staypositivefriend]

VOTE: Spring Breeze

Time for a claim, no?
Here is my locked in, D1 solve:

{Cake, Spring Breeze, Maria, Jake}

this is not my exact solve, but all of these people are in my POE. in particular, spring breeze/jake are the two names i feel the most uneasy about right now.

i don't want to get ahead of myself, but if we live in a SB!scum world, i think jake's scum equity might increase slightly. i'll pursue that line of thinking tomorrow if SB is a hit and if i'm still here

the fact that our POEs are fairly similar is a positive sign for me that i'm on the right track

[Gypyx]

anything that i missed about the green laughing person murder?

Idk I'm doing preflip associatives, you should ask someone with meta.

uhh, well i won't trust preflip then sorry

[MURDERSUNNY]

Spoiler: why Jake

I will not be attempting to read Noraa today I don't think

Jake wagon is fine I guess but also that dude is pretty scummy as town (see Smoke-Filled Antechamber)

I think Jake's response to the wagon is moreso town knowing his history~

Zaiden's entrance looks town
Gamma needs to get something better then his Jake vote
I think SPF's more recent posts looked better

VOTE: spring breeze

I don't like Zaidens case for elimming Jake today

Can you expllain what you see in Cake?

Exactly. 6 overlapping convos is confusing.

So pick one.

How do you feel about the Murder Cakez interactions, for example?

Bleh.

I haven't read it.

[SirCakez]

You versus Cabd. Since you didn't immediately pick up on it, then maybe this is inaccurate.

I mean Cabd didn't drop a case like this until my fate was basically sealed, and I didn't call Cabd scum ever.

[Gypyx]

random though, but murder mightb have a red PM > rand if town!cakez

[SirCakez]

I still town lean Jake ftr. His posts just give me good vibes tonally.

[MURDERSUNNY]

if we live in a SB!scum world, i think jake's scum equity might increase slightly

Jake has been very quiet about SB.

[SirCakez]

random though, but murder mightb have a red PM > rand if town!cakez

What makes you say this?

[Gypyx]

random though, but murder mightb have a red PM > rand if town!cakez

What makes you say this?

if i understeand correctly he's pre-associating you into maria

that's pretty much it though, a random though

[SirCakez]

okay so, the great maria wall aka : i spent more than 1 minute thinking about this post :

first of all, the early back and forth out of cakes

Hello hello did you miss me? I know you did. Anyway let us vote a wolf shall we? Here I'll start.
VOTE: Cakez

which like, this post comes after 14 pages of maria waiting it out, and yet she strats with a pretty much random vote, which like, i'm really not a fan of, especially how it's only retracted upon pressure

then there's the view on self meta, which i find incosistent with maria's acts, so that also leans scum

Spoiler:

It was mostly a joke at Cakez because I made the exact same kinda post at him before when he a wolf. I assume he guessed that given his lackluster reaction

pout

If you want my serious vote at the moment it's this:
VOTE: zaiden
I'm not normally the one to start spearheading wagons so I'll simply ask people to look closer at this slot and if you can see the few glaring flaws that me and 1 of my team members saw. (At least when I was ranting they agreed)

"i don't really push peoples too much"

Spoiler:

It's very amusing to hear that kind of argument since you couldn't get further from my personality if you tried. Anyway it's not like I'm going to be the day 1 fade. I can care less if you TR me or have me at null branch off me to more important matters unless you really find this so pressing.

how exactly is your personality so incompatible with these kinds of plays?

and yeah, doubt you'll be the D1 fade, but like, not a reason to disregard points made against you

I can not recall a single time in my mafia carrier that I as scum have stopped pushing someone because I was worried about the reaction/heat I would get from it. Take that as you will

and here, maria says she isn't afraid of pushing peoples, while showing reluctance to push earlier

actually

i retract that read

keeping the previous construiction as i still feel like it made some valid points, but i recalled maria as arguing about her general play, not her scum play

in that case, i'd even stretch that as +town

so uh yeah me dumb

pedit : anything that i missed about the green laughing person murder?

So are you calling Maria town now?

[Gypyx]

random though, but murder mightb have a red PM > rand if town!cakez

What makes you say this?

if i understeand correctly he's pre-associating you into maria

that's pretty much it though, a random though

(in a way i'm not fan of)

[midwaybear]

if we live in a SB!scum world, i think jake's scum equity might increase slightly

Jake has been very quiet about SB.

His posts from the past 3-4 days legit have no content whatsoever, so I don't know if that is a good point to raise in scum!SB world.
Mainly saying this because a teammate finds Jake townie from past experience.

[SirCakez]

random though, but murder mightb have a red PM > rand if town!cakez

What makes you say this?

if i understeand correctly he's pre-associating you into maria

that's pretty much it though, a random though

Yeah he is and it annoys me but whatever.
I think Murder's approach of me has been fairly town although it still irks me that he just repeated the same thing after I spent multiple pages answering his questions in detail.