Open 804: Popcorn Mafia Redux [Game Over!]

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Petapan, I expect you should toss the first few pages out entirely, since we had little to no input from half of the playerlist other than fluff and shitpost until ... what, page 5? 6? So we basically had to make our own content and be exceedingly pleased when anyone posted anything that wasn't just fluff and shitpost. Or, well, at least that's how /I/ felt.

You should be able to see the exact moment I change over, because I get actually aggressive when pushing to sort instead of light presses like with Wheme. Probably around the time I have my argument with Imperium?

Top shot picks right now are Cakez and STT. I could live with a lot of other shots, though. Honestly, I won't fight to save anyone but Imperium and unwnd at this point.

Content's gonna be pretty low today, but later on I'll make time to give you any other answers you want. PEDIT: Like that one. Making a note to answer 923 later.

[Norfolk Boy1]

anyone who's here, give me your top shot picks, any number of names, no context

Easily, the best shot right now is me. I'm probably the common denominator in most peoples scumreads, so it'll confirm my alignment and then any further discussion about me is over.

Personally, i'm shooting Duchess right now if I had the gun.

[petapan]

Mushshagana. I don't have anything against your long-form posts. I was only concerned about having too much of a solidified plan laid out that could interfere with the normal flow of the day. On another note, regarding Whemestar, I believe you look quite trustworthy coming out of your argument, as I myself noticed a lot of what you pointed out about him.

UNVOTE: RLotus

VOTE: Whemestar

ew

[petapan]

anyone who's here, give me your top shot picks, any number of names, no context

Easily, the best shot right now is me. I'm probably the common denominator in most peoples scumreads, so it'll confirm my alignment and then any further discussion about me is over.

Personally, i'm shooting Duchess right now if I had the gun.

please don't advocate for yourself to be shot, i realize this is a weird setup but you need to stop doing this stuff

why duchess?

[petapan]

I'm not digging ScrewTheTells jumping in and claiming it's suspicious that i'm not posting when it's Sunday night in the UK.

Anyone suggesting a committee or that votes should decide the shot is a scum candidate for me.

The only confirmed town is Netflix, so Netflix should decide.

Another bad Norfolk post
They're basically saying don't scumhunt, it's netflix's job.

this feels like it's misconstruing a noob who just wants the clear to decide, maybe i'm stuck in the epicmafia mindset a bit but i don't think it's inherently scummy

[Norfolk Boy1]

Spoiler:

Subject: Newbie 2037 - Game Over

Let’s make things interesting with some RQS

For those that don’t know, RQS is called Random Questioning Stage and it has its advantages. And this is for everyone in the playerlist. Non answers get scumread.

1. What is your overall mafia experience? Not just on this site.
2. Do you prefer playing scum/wolf or town/village?
3. In your opinion, what are some of the top things to look for when scumhunting?
4. When townhunting?
5. Is it easy or difficult for you to lie?

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1. I’ve been playing the wolf version of mafia since 2006. Mafiascum.net for 5 months.
2. Town/Village
3. Apathy, inconsistencies, passiveness/aggressiveness giving the context, perfect posting, and voting patterns.
4. Disagreeableness, having one’s own mind and gut feel. Oh and a little scumminess never hurt.
5. Yes. I find it very difficult to lie and work to just not do it.

RQS is a new one to me and isn't on the Mafia Wiki.

To answer your questions:

1.I played a handful of basic games on a wrestling forum 10 years ago. This is my 3rd game on this website.

2.Town, specifically VT. I struggle with the pressure that comes with a scum or power role and just prefer to be able to post unfiltered without stressing over what people will read into my posts.

3.I'm not going to share the tells that I look for, but I immediately scumread people who post something like

Non answers get scumread.

4.Application of logic

5.Easy to post, but I agonise over it for an age before posting.

I was taking the nervousness about getting a gun too early from here.

This, along with the other post of mine you quoted, is why meta is a load of old guff.

You've quoted a post from another game without the context. If you'd followed it to the end and read my next game you'd see that I was lying in the quoted post because I scumread the questioner and to disguise that I was a PR.

If you're going to try and mine for alignment telling stuff, you'll see that I bloody love playing scum or town PR. What you'll also see (as in this game) is that I find playing VT a little dull and thus don't engage as much. I accept responsibility for not fully understanding the set up and the implications of it, as it's contributed to me having the mindset that I can read the 4000 posts I missed in the day, post my opinions and then leave it because there are no consequences.

[Imperium]

NORFOLK!

I got a lot of posts directed @ you - if you want me to quote them I absolutely can.

[Imperium]

Because I'm such a nice guy.

[petapan]

You still insist I was trying to interfere with your questioning, and still I cannot possibly see how I /could/ interfere with it or why I would /want/ to. You make no explanation of how it disrupts, you just assert that it does.

You call me condescending and abrasive, but looking back, I see you are the one who stoops to appeal to ridicule for no visible reason.



The repeated and pointless attacks on my character are noted. Your assertion that I am specifically disrupting you without evidence or explanation is also noted. Your attribution of thought patterns to me even though I have said nothing to support them is noted.

Would you like to add anything else while you're at it?

this reads like someone who's trying to win a debate not scumhunt

[Imperium]

Spoiler:

Subject: Newbie 2037 - Game Over

Let’s make things interesting with some RQS

For those that don’t know, RQS is called Random Questioning Stage and it has its advantages. And this is for everyone in the playerlist. Non answers get scumread.

1. What is your overall mafia experience? Not just on this site.
2. Do you prefer playing scum/wolf or town/village?
3. In your opinion, what are some of the top things to look for when scumhunting?
4. When townhunting?
5. Is it easy or difficult for you to lie?

=======================

1. I’ve been playing the wolf version of mafia since 2006. Mafiascum.net for 5 months.
2. Town/Village
3. Apathy, inconsistencies, passiveness/aggressiveness giving the context, perfect posting, and voting patterns.
4. Disagreeableness, having one’s own mind and gut feel. Oh and a little scumminess never hurt.
5. Yes. I find it very difficult to lie and work to just not do it.

RQS is a new one to me and isn't on the Mafia Wiki.

To answer your questions:

1.I played a handful of basic games on a wrestling forum 10 years ago. This is my 3rd game on this website.

2.Town, specifically VT. I struggle with the pressure that comes with a scum or power role and just prefer to be able to post unfiltered without stressing over what people will read into my posts.

3.I'm not going to share the tells that I look for, but I immediately scumread people who post something like

Non answers get scumread.

4.Application of logic

5.Easy to post, but I agonise over it for an age before posting.

I was taking the nervousness about getting a gun too early from here.

This, along with the other post of mine you quoted, is why meta is a load of old guff.

You've quoted a post from another game without the context. If you'd followed it to the end and read my next game you'd see that I was lying in the quoted post because I scumread the questioner and to disguise that I was a PR.

If you're going to try and mine for alignment telling stuff, you'll see that I bloody love playing scum or town PR. What you'll also see (as in this game) is that I find playing VT a little dull and thus don't engage as much. I accept responsibility for not fully understanding the set up and the implications of it, as it's contributed to me having the mindset that I can read the 4000 posts I missed in the day, post my opinions and then leave it because there are no consequences.

lol me

[Imperium]

That was a joke.

I wish people understood me

i was serious every time i accused you of replacing into a scum slot, how rude

(also correct every time)

Yeah but it was fun returning the greeting

[petapan]

okay taking a break, might not wildly quote everything that catches my eye, but have an idea for something i want to look at this game

[Imperium]

NORFOLK

COME BACK TO THE THREAD DON'T YOU DARE GHOST ME AGAIN

[Norfolk Boy1]

What's your previous experience with Rockhopper? Is it multiple games or just one?
Do you have anything that bothers you about Duchess other than what Lotus pointed out? What bothers you about Wheme?

Why is Not Mafia "reserved" instead of "lurkfucking"?

Could you rephrase your STT suspicion for me again? What are your opinions on Dunnstral - I know he hasn't posted a lot but what do you think of the positions that he's taken in the game thus far?

Just the one with Rock. I don't read games i'm not in, so that's my only reference.

With Duchess, post 403 is basically a scumclaim to me, just asking how they should play. Plus Lotus had a sensible case and turned out to be town.

Not Mafia, I suspect, is similar to me in that it's just not as much fun being vanilla.

STT is throwing spurious shade and bolting. They also have no consistency. They posted that they didn't strongly scumread me, then they made me their top scumread, then it was Mush.

Looking back at Dunnstral's posts, the STT hydra reveal pings me. If STT flips scum, Dunnstral is worth looking at.

[SirCakez]

okay give me the gun, tammy dies next for that sass

This is scum banter

This might be the first time ever I agree with Not Mafia. Wow.

anyone who's here, give me your top shot picks, any number of names, no context

Imp, Norfolk, you, Duchess

[Imperium]

anyone who's here, give me your top shot picks, any number of names, no context

Easily, the best shot right now is me. I'm probably the common denominator in most peoples scumreads, so it'll confirm my alignment and then any further discussion about me is over.

Personally, i'm shooting Duchess right now if I had the gun.

This is also a toxic mindset for townies to have, FYI. If you are town, you are a bad shot. We win when we shoot bad guys. We don't win when we shoot townies.

[SirCakez]

Not loving the Peta entrance

[Norfolk Boy1]

NORFOLK

COME BACK TO THE THREAD DON'T YOU DARE GHOST ME AGAIN

Be cool. I was replying to your other questions and it takes an age because i'm on a phone.

[Imperium]

I think if I shoot duchess I die

She flips red though

How do you expect the Godfather's play to differ from the Goons? I know you are trying not to interject more than what is necessary, but I would appreciate if you could answer this whenever possible and to whatever extent you would be comfortable.

Can you explain why you think this is a scumclaim, Norfolk?

[Imperium]

NORFOLK

COME BACK TO THE THREAD DON'T YOU DARE GHOST ME AGAIN

Be cool. I was replying to your other questions and it takes an age because i'm on a phone.

How can I be cool when there's a hole in my heart that can only be filled by juicy Norfolk Boy1 content?

[Norfolk Boy1]

It's asking for advice on how to play goon.

[Imperium]

No, it's asking the difference between how a Godfather approaches the game via a Goon which is most certainly not the same thing.

[Imperium]

And follow up - do you really think that a Goon would asked confirmed town advice on how to fool them? Like that just seems incredibly ballsy or is that just me?

[petapan]

Not loving the Peta entrance

not surprised by this in the least

[Imperium]

This might be the first time ever I agree with Not Mafia. Wow.

which should be a hint that you're messing up somewhere