I forgot about thisIn post 207, Raya36 wrote:Because doctor is a possible role for scum. It's doctor or roleblocker. Kop assumed there was 1 doctorIn post 206, Not_Mafia wrote:Why would thinking there's a doctor be a scumslip?
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Well as the old saying goes, assumption is the mother of all fuck ups.In post 220, Raya36 wrote:
But it's not a givenIn post 216, Kop wrote:
Majority of the basic games have doctors.In post 203, Raya36 wrote:But even the basic setups like the normals don't always have doctors
It should have paid for me to actually read the setup properly and we wouldn't be at this conjure.You'll Never Walk Alone!-
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I mean it's a pretty solid catch given the interactions that came after it.In post 211, Raya36 wrote:I imagine if it was a scumslip his partner is staying on the quiet side about it. It would look bad for them to defend him but his partner might also be unsure about bussing yet
I'm happy to dive more games and see just how many had a doctor role.
Yup, if you're not of an opinion, you're avoiding at this point. That was a straight up RVS breaker.In post 214, T-Bone wrote:It's one of those things where frankly, we need to demand an opinion from everyone on.
Like I don't care if you have a contrasting opinion, I just care you have one and vocalise it.
Not that I'm aware of, even our newbie games often don't have a doctor.In post 216, Kop wrote:
Majority of the basic games have doctors.In post 203, Raya36 wrote:But even the basic setups like the normals don't always have doctors
Like straight up if you're not engaging that slip and the interactions after, I at least want a rough reads list. We don't hammer this yet either.Wanna see how to use my pronouns? Click here -- Or here if you just wanna see fae/faer used in context.
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"not reading setup" isn't a good defense here.In post 113, Flea The Magician wrote:In post 51, Kop wrote:
But the problem being with that is, the fact that we have blank vigilantes who can't back anything up, so it's easy for scum to say they are a vigilante but then claim they must be blank, we aren't then any further forward whether to believe a claim.In post 35, ejjinami wrote:
vigs are ICs as long as the mafia kill is identified.In post 28, Flea The Magician wrote:I can't see ANY reasonable situation where even a partial vig claim would help us here, honestly.
Kinda sus. Not sure why we'd IC vig's either.
As long as everyone claims their shots right after making them and there’s still 1 left for mafia, those who claimed will have to be town
For example you can have 4 people claim they shot 4 different people, but all 4 are alive, the 4 claimed vigilantes then can say they must be blank vigilantes and we're still in the square one situation.
So at the current moment, I'm saying a mass claim isn't going to be helpful, it'd probably won't be helpful until at least the last day when numbers are really low.
Read enough of it thoKop wrote:I've just read the setup and realized that there isn't a town doctor, I just automatically assumed there was a town doctor. I didn't realize that scum had a doctor or roleblocker.Wanna see how to use my pronouns? Click here -- Or here if you just wanna see fae/faer used in context.
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I'm reading you and Raya has town based on the push on the slip. T-bone or Not Mafia based on the mistake I'm not sure of, Not Mafia is fence sitting with the whole jump on and jump off. I wasn't happy with how quick he changed his mind from T-bone to me, and his original vote wasn't a poke at anything. T-bone has just jumped on without any real pressure from himself on the mistake, and is now pushing for everyones opinion on it to try get more traction on it without offering anything from him, and I feel that he is going to ride the 'his mistake, that doesn't make me scum' excuse when I flip town and if everyone analyzes the wagon that led to my flip.In post 228, Flea The Magician wrote:
I mean it's a pretty solid catch given the interactions that came after it.In post 211, Raya36 wrote:I imagine if it was a scumslip his partner is staying on the quiet side about it. It would look bad for them to defend him but his partner might also be unsure about bussing yet
I'm happy to dive more games and see just how many had a doctor role.
Yup, if you're not of an opinion, you're avoiding at this point. That was a straight up RVS breaker.In post 214, T-Bone wrote:It's one of those things where frankly, we need to demand an opinion from everyone on.
Like I don't care if you have a contrasting opinion, I just care you have one and vocalise it.
Not that I'm aware of, even our newbie games often don't have a doctor.In post 216, Kop wrote:
Majority of the basic games have doctors.In post 203, Raya36 wrote:But even the basic setups like the normals don't always have doctors
Like straight up if you're not engaging that slip and the interactions after, I at least want a rough reads list. We don't hammer this yet either.
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I know you feel like this is about you atm (for obvious reasons)...but it actually hasn't been about you since Flea's initiation of the issue.-
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That said, the information is helpfulIn post 233, T-Bone wrote:I know you feel like this is about you atm (for obvious reasons)...but it actually hasn't been about you since Flea's initiation of the issue.Wanna see how to use my pronouns? Click here -- Or here if you just wanna see fae/faer used in context.
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and I can understand why kop might've thought that was aimed at him tbh.Wanna see how to use my pronouns? Click here -- Or here if you just wanna see fae/faer used in context.
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Except yes it's sampling bias regardless if the result is correct, which I don't know. If you've played around twenty games, with 15 of them having Doctor's in them. Yet the last three games do not have doctors. That's sampling biasIn post 155, Flea The Magician wrote:Using the last 3 games of a player on site to check for mechanical information is not sampling bias. The assumption was "there is always a doctor role". The games sampled were of different categories, including a micro.
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I can see Ejjinami as I've said before, not sure about T-BoneIn post 177, Not_Mafia wrote:That was a scum replace out.
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Not a big fan of this lamist behaviour right off the batIn post 190, brassherald wrote:
I wouldn't know, as this isn't a scum slot.In post 189, Not_Mafia wrote:brass, how does it feel to replace into a scum slot?
Thanks for asking, though.
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Hmmm I thought that was your defenseIn post 201, Kop wrote:
I assumed it was a basic setup just with the additions of bombs, supersaints and vigs/blank vigs.In post 198, Raya36 wrote:Hey Kop, if it wasn't your old games that made you think a doctor is an expected role in most games then why did you assume there'd be a doctor?
It wasn't my old games that made me assume there was a town doctor in this game.
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Yeah I am turning on it as we speak, not a big fan of Flea's sampling bias but yeah I thought Kop's defense was that they usually play games with doctors in it.In post 204, T-Bone wrote:I'm more interested in the players ignoring this scumslip honestly. It's the most significant piece of game action, and we have ~3 players with opinions on it, and just one asking about it?
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There's probably one scum within Kop/Brass/Nepenthe, I am hoping there's both as that makes my reads legendary. I was only those slots to hammer at this point.
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I like T-Bones overall tone and their reverse-push on whoisn'tvoting Kop as I don't really expect that coming from scum.Hydra account for JacksonVirgo and MiniMegabyte-
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I ain't diving though 3 years worth of games to eliminate this. If kop is willing to provide me a time frame I can reference then Ill be happy to look and compare.In post 236, MiniVirgo wrote:
Except yes it's sampling bias regardless if the result is correct, which I don't know. If you've played around twenty games, with 15 of them having Doctor's in them. Yet the last three games do not have doctors. That's sampling biasIn post 155, Flea The Magician wrote:Using the last 3 games of a player on site to check for mechanical information is not sampling bias. The assumption was "there is always a doctor role". The games sampled were of different categories, including a micro.
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What am I supposed to say to N_M in that situation?In post 239, MiniVirgo wrote:
Not a big fan of this lamist behaviour right off the batIn post 190, brassherald wrote:
I wouldn't know, as this isn't a scum slot.In post 189, Not_Mafia wrote:brass, how does it feel to replace into a scum slot?
Thanks for asking, though.
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Never said you should, just what you are doing IS sampling bias and thus is not reliable in and of itself.In post 246, Flea The Magician wrote:
I ain't diving though 3 years worth of games to eliminate this. If kop is willing to provide me a time frame I can reference then Ill be happy to look and compare.In post 236, MiniVirgo wrote:
Except yes it's sampling bias regardless if the result is correct, which I don't know. If you've played around twenty games, with 15 of them having Doctor's in them. Yet the last three games do not have doctors. That's sampling biasIn post 155, Flea The Magician wrote:Using the last 3 games of a player on site to check for mechanical information is not sampling bias. The assumption was "there is always a doctor role". The games sampled were of different categories, including a micro.
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First post isn't a reply to N_MIn post 247, brassherald wrote:
What am I supposed to say to N_M in that situation?In post 239, MiniVirgo wrote:
Not a big fan of this lamist behaviour right off the batIn post 190, brassherald wrote:
I wouldn't know, as this isn't a scum slot.In post 189, Not_Mafia wrote:brass, how does it feel to replace into a scum slot?
Thanks for asking, though.
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