TM2021 | Anime Destroys Untrod Tripod | Endgame

[NorwegianboyEE]

Norwegian/Mistyx/Akarin my hero solve.

Yes that's exactly why i'm voting them right now, because they are my scum partner.
You're good at this.

[Ramcius]

Norwe, it seems like you missed my question, so I'll ask again - what do you expect to learn from Akarin's wagon/flip?

[Flavor Leaf]

Well when i'm thinking pocket then i usually imagine sucking up for stronger players. And TGP doesn't have much sway most of the time, at least not in this game.

TGP has a vote that is just as strong as anybody else's.

It's the little buddy pocket.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Norwe, it seems like you missed my question, so I'll ask again - what do you expect to learn from Akarin's wagon/flip?

More about the wagons on day 1.

[Flavor Leaf]

Norwegian/Mistyx/Akarin my hero solve.

Yes that's exactly why i'm voting them right now, because they are my scum partner.
You're good at this.

alright, this is a TMI on Akarin town then.

VOTE: Norwegian

[Flavor Leaf]

Pressure Norwegian

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'll be blunt, this game has way too much AtE and meta shit for me to actually do anything. Trying to engage people, who are scumreading me isn't working either, so I'm good to end this day, I'm pretty sure one of Akarin/TSQ is scum and I'd go with Akarin first

What happened to this btw?
You seem to have changed your opinion on Akarin completely today.

[TheGoldenParadox]

yeah, agree with shea that ico is town here.
i hate to read her like this, but the way she is going off on people who scumread her this game makes me suspect nancy's town too, although i hate that that kind of behavior earns nancy a townread because it's toxic and antitown.

I don't understand what has changed between now and when you were scum leaning. She's been playing this way the entire time. This also goes back to my question about why you were being so meek earlier which I don't think you answered.

her going off on Ico changed.
me being meek? i don't understand

So you tr me because of my reaction to Ico, then in what world does that make it “antitown”?

because things that can be town indicative can also be antitown? AtE, specifically.

[NorwegianboyEE]

FL. You're hard to read so i'll just ignore this push from you and hope that Ico and Nancy will see it for how bad it truly is.

[TheGoldenParadox]

Yeah, no, I believe 1 lurker flip is enough for now

VOTE: TGP

alright, this is the post that makes me believe the earlier fight between TSQ and Ramcius was TvS. Saying "1 lurker flip is enough" attempts to take attention off of people who should have attention on them, and makes it easy to defend people who aren't particularly defensible. i'm not a fan of it at all, and when i've seen it i think it's done far more often from scum trying to take the heat off of their buddies than town genuinely being against flipping lurkers.

VOTE: akarin couple reasons i'm voting akarin instead of ramcius right now - first, a scum flip from her incriminates ramcius far more than vice versa largely because of this post. second, i haven't seen much in the way of town posts from akarin, and i think ramcius will be sorted by other flips eventually in a way that akarin will not because of lack of interactions.

Don’t you think this is a bit of an over reaction to the start of D2? I’d think if Akarin and Ram were aligned, he wouldn’t want to go out of his way to paint such a ginormous target on him. I’d view this as somewhere between neutral to possibly even anti-associative.

TGP makes bad pushes as town, so you have no way how to evaluate it if he isn’t.

i- are you one to talk here??

[Flavor Leaf]

FL. You're hard to read so i'll just ignore this push from you and hope that Ico and Nancy will see it for how bad it truly is.

it's not bad. even if you end up being town, this is a surface level comment.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ok.

Anyway. I'm waiting for your answer @Ramcius.

[Flavor Leaf]

Norwegian is shading me to shut down my momentum

[Ramcius]

I'll be blunt, this game has way too much AtE and meta shit for me to actually do anything. Trying to engage people, who are scumreading me isn't working either, so I'm good to end this day, I'm pretty sure one of Akarin/TSQ is scum and I'd go with Akarin first

What happened to this btw?
You seem to have changed your opinion on Akarin completely today.

As I said to TGP, I don't see a reason to pressure Akarin right now as she promised to be more active D2 and thus I expect to have a chance to sort her. TSQ is still a scum tho, but no one agrees with me, so there's no point in voting him

What do you learn about D1 wagons from Akarin's flip?

[NorwegianboyEE]

@FLavour
No. It's ignoring. Big difference.
You could be town or scum, i just don't care atm because i want to solve you later.

[Ramcius]

Ok.

Anyway. I'm waiting for your answer @Ramcius.

What an impatient guy

VOTE: Norwe

[NorwegianboyEE]

What do you learn about D1 wagons from Akarin's flip?

I don't know yet. I'm just voting them for reactions and later wagon analyzis. And it's also PoE because i'm townreading most other slots yesterday, so if they aren't scum then that means no scum was wagoned at all yesterday and that'd be good information to have.

[Ramcius]

What do you learn about D1 wagons from Akarin's flip?

I don't know yet. I'm just voting them for reactions and later wagon analyzis. And it's also PoE because i'm townreading most other slots yesterday, so if they aren't scum then that means no scum was wagoned at all yesterday and that'd be good information to have.

So, you prefer to vote a lurk slot with no real plan instead of trying to go after some more active slot that can be actually engaged?

[Flavor Leaf]

@FLavour
No. It's ignoring. Big difference.
You could be town or scum, i just don't care atm because i want to solve you later.

I disagree. This has nothing to do with your solving. I'm pushing you to help ME solve, which you are completely shutting down

[NorwegianboyEE]

What do you learn about D1 wagons from Akarin's flip?

I don't know yet. I'm just voting them for reactions and later wagon analyzis. And it's also PoE because i'm townreading most other slots yesterday, so if they aren't scum then that means no scum was wagoned at all yesterday and that'd be good information to have.

So, you prefer to vote a lurk slot with no real plan instead of trying to go after some more active slot that can be actually engaged?

If so then considering your reaction and switch from previous stance yesterday to not wanting to vote Akarin because "they promised not to lurk" then i'd be voting you. But there is generally more consensus for Akarin.

[NorwegianboyEE]

@FLavour
No. It's ignoring. Big difference.
You could be town or scum, i just don't care atm because i want to solve you later.

I disagree. This has nothing to do with your solving. I'm pushing you to help ME solve, which you are completely shutting down

How am i shutting it down? I'm only defending myself.
Are you saying i should be glad and willingly help you make the game eliminate me because it helps you solve?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don't have a read on you and that is the truth. Are you town pushing me because you are paranoid about me? Could indeed be the case.
Are you scum seeing an opening to push me and trying to line me up as a good miselimination? Also just as likely.

Thing is, i prefer solving you based on how you interact with other slots in the game, not myself. As i already know i am town so seeing you push me isn't helping me solve the game, and shitting the game up with yet another 1v1 certainly won't help either. Thus i am reaching out to other slots and trying to see how they respond to things so that i can then later use this information to ascertain your allignment.

[Ramcius]

What do you learn about D1 wagons from Akarin's flip?

I don't know yet. I'm just voting them for reactions and later wagon analyzis. And it's also PoE because i'm townreading most other slots yesterday, so if they aren't scum then that means no scum was wagoned at all yesterday and that'd be good information to have.

So, you prefer to vote a lurk slot with no real plan instead of trying to go after some more active slot that can be actually engaged?

I think you could convince TSQ to vote me and maybe TGP with his idea of me and Akarin being scumbuddies, so that would be 3 votes on me, while you have 2 on Akarin right now.

[Flavor Leaf]

@FLavour
No. It's ignoring. Big difference.
You could be town or scum, i just don't care atm because i want to solve you later.

I disagree. This has nothing to do with your solving. I'm pushing you to help ME solve, which you are completely shutting down

How am i shutting it down? I'm only defending myself.
Are you saying i should be glad and willingly help you make the game eliminate me because it helps you solve?

No, you're saying you're ignoring

[NorwegianboyEE]

What do you learn about D1 wagons from Akarin's flip?

I don't know yet. I'm just voting them for reactions and later wagon analyzis. And it's also PoE because i'm townreading most other slots yesterday, so if they aren't scum then that means no scum was wagoned at all yesterday and that'd be good information to have.

So, you prefer to vote a lurk slot with no real plan instead of trying to go after some more active slot that can be actually engaged?

I think you could convince TSQ to vote me and maybe TGP with his idea of me and Akarin being scumbuddies, so that would be 3 votes on me, while you have 2 on Akarin right now.

If Akarin is scum then that would look worse for you though.