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Post Post #3525 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 1:01 pm

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I'm up to 121 and also my Internet is out today but I will keep reading as I can in between contacting Cox.

Y'all. I hate phones.

I got one peach last night.
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Post Post #3526 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 1:02 pm

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Update: it may not have been a peach? It doesn't specify. It just says a particular variety. Do the rest of y'all's specifically say "peach"?
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Post Post #3527 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 1:04 pm

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+1 peach for gyp should be added so that's 13-15.

I think that fakeclaiming a fruit-target could end pretty badly, especially since mafia would be able to narrow who could be lying about targets via number of received fruit.
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Post Post #3528 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 1:10 pm

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i didnt get any peaches if that was missed
In post 3513, MURDERSUNNY wrote:
In post 2546, Spring Breeze wrote:murder's case is pretty towny for murder, and my dear teammate infinity says he sees his soul with his cake questioning. i can't comment about cakez though because i don't know him well. based on this game alone, i'd still say he was towny.

i think pooky is town again due to soulmeld but no good reason

i decently liked s_s when he got involved earlier

for pink ball, i do think i was biased with yesterday. i felt like he was really selective with my posting to put me in the worst possible light. gut says it feels unfair, but brain thinks it could be genuine if i think about it from his shoes. i don't know what else to say here, i am biased

i skimmed the rest of the thread and i'm generally, i'm feeling this

{murder, noraa}
{pooky, cheetory}
{gypyx, zaiden, s_s, sircakez, morning}
{pink ball, mariar, midway, spf} --- null
{jingle, private, jake,
gamma
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feel free to ask me to elaborate on any of these
wow look at SB's iso and CTRL-F Gamma, there is 0 reasoning for this lol
i think that looks better for S_S, probably worse for gamma if she never mentions him
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Post Post #3529 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 1:29 pm

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Zero reasoning for PI too. Exactly the same
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Post Post #3530 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 1:33 pm

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SPF's reads are basically consensus, I dont think analyzing her reads will be extra helpful beyond mayyybe if she had 1 or 2 players in the bottom half slightly lower than other people did? So something you could kill and get away with not being noticed - that i think is a stretch though

oh Shirou read thru my game the other night ! He is pretty happy with my townreads, Pink/Noraa/Cheet/Zaiden were his strongest. He liked most of Jingle's posts and midway's early posting. Murder/Pooky are above random town for him from behaviour towards SB wagon

his PoE is MariaR/Private/Gamma and maybe one of SS/Jake but not the both of them

He notes that he was excited with Cakes on scum!SS but the way ss acted around SB made him less interested there, and Cakes he had as a townlean but ended up less sure i think

also an extra thing for Noraa: Shirou says every game he's played with town!PB he suspected or caught a scum on the first day or two so this sequence of events doesnt surprise him, and he says you should definitely give him space
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Post Post #3531 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 1:42 pm

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In post 3526, PrivateI wrote:Update: it may not have been a peach? It doesn't specify. It just says a particular variety. Do the rest of y'all's specifically say "peach"?
You might want to ask the mod about that.
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Post Post #3532 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 1:43 pm

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Shirou is a sweetheart as always
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Post Post #3533 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 2:07 pm

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both of my peaches were specifically labelled as peaches.
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Post Post #3534 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 3:05 pm

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In post 3425, Something_Smart wrote:PB, you're acting very weird. Can you cut to the chase, please?
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Post Post #3535 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 3:08 pm

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In post 3448, Noraa wrote:
In post 3447, Gypyx wrote:eh, could we get more content in before we APtL red peoples?
if you think private is scum, why would you say this?
We get scum day 1 and 2 ... doesn't really matter if we don't get much info - we literally will have like tons and tons of lims to waste.
I have seen towns waste such a lead in the past
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Post Post #3536 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 3:13 pm

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In post 3505, MURDERSUNNY wrote:
In post 3295, Gamma Emerald wrote:her scumrange is p much infinite
any time she says she's "outside of her scumrange" it's bs

but that doesn't mean she's scum yet
I think Gamma is scum for this post
why

I'm really just ripping into mariar for the halibut (plus it's fun to get her goat)
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Post Post #3537 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:06 pm

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Votecount 2.2Cheetory6
Gamma Emerald - 1 (MURDERSUNNY)
Gypyx - 2 (Noraa, Gamma)
Jake The Wolfie - 1 (Jingle)
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MariaR - 2 (midwaybear, Zaiden)
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PrivateI - 4 (Cheetory6, Pink Ball, SirCakez, Gypyx)
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Something_Smart - 1 (MariaR)
Zaiden

Not Voting - 5 (Jake, Morning Tweet, Pooky, PrivateI, Something_Smart)


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Post Post #3538 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:42 pm

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Praise the sun, the VC is back!


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Post Post #3539 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:56 pm

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In post 3487, midwaybear wrote:
In post 3483, SirCakez wrote:I like Cheet telling Jake to stop shitposting and play the game
Why?
Because Jake's playstyle right now is blatantly pro scum regardless of alignment
In post 3493, MURDERSUNNY wrote:
In post 3106, Cheetory6 wrote:p-edit: ya I think you may be on to something with the pink ball townread idk just call it a hunch.
lol this is exactly what I noticed too, I think Gamma could be scum here
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Post Post #3540 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:57 pm

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In post 3516, MURDERSUNNY wrote:
In post 2853, staypositivefriend wrote:pink ball
noraa
cheetory
zaiden
midwaybear
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murdersunny
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roughly where i've landed. i'm sure i'm misreading a couple of people here, but that's standard for d1
killed for reads?
Nice catch
The bottom five (aside from me obv) are all in my pool today so this makes me feel good
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Post Post #3541 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:58 pm

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Gamma went mostly ignored day 1
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Post Post #3542 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:59 pm

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I continue to not think that spf was killed for reads given how similar they are to everyone else's.

Maaaaaaybe the Gamma read, but that still feels like a stretch.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #3543 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:02 pm

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Creature thinks Cheet, Murder and Gamma are town
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Post Post #3544 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:12 pm

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In post 3524, Pink Ball wrote:If you're a PR just lie about sending a fruit to someone you trust or something idk
that won't work cuz numbers don't work like that.
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Post Post #3545 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:14 pm

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Pink ball hurry say you received 6 peaches :wink:
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Post Post #3546 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 7:24 pm

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In post 3519, Jingle wrote:
In post 3480, Gypyx wrote:
and what about the elements i pointed out?

your PR's activated by fruit alignement is also wrong as we already claimed fruit anyways, and i don't see a world where some town roles are activated by specific flavor
FV knowing they were RB'd isn't particularly useful for town, given they wouldn't know who rb'd them or why. It is potentially useful for scum deciding who needs to make the NK if there's a town RB.

If the number of fruit received is roughly the same as the number of players (one or two less at least), claiming the sending of fruit probably doesn't out any PRs. This is corroborated by the SB flip being a multitasking PR and FV, as PB mentioned. Unless it turns out that 14 or so peaches were received what we've already claimed is more than ample for D2.

I have seen no indication that scum would have multiple kills in this game so far, and until there is such an indication I don't think it's wise to try to play around it.

As far as specific fruit being PRs, there is a chance that say, golden delicious apples (obviously not a type of peach) are actually doc shots that show up as fruit. Or some other form of invention. I don't know that scum doesn't have a method of trying to narrow down PRs based on peach flavoring, and I don't see a reason not to play around that.
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Post Post #3547 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 7:34 pm

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From Mena: @S_S Why was PB holding the game hostage a bad thing?
@Gamma This is not how I played in Ruby, besides that game is ages ago and has very little resemblance of my wolf game now anyways. It's funny that you think Maria would just do whatever I want as a wolf here, rather than her setting the entire pace. If she was a wolf she would just wouldn't pass along my msgs if she didn't want to or at least modify them to her liking.
Finally duh I wasn't in Xeno but there's this thing called 'gamings existing after they end' and 'isos are a thing'. Maria and I disagreed about Norra's play so she linked me to Norra's scum game in Xeno and I started to notice her doing things where she calls the wagon on her buddy on D1 trash and goes “omg how could you vote cakez, he’s so obvtown!?!!” (You remember this don't you Cakez? ^^) Hey guys, what is Norra doing this game? Exactly that.
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Post Post #3548 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 7:34 pm

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As for me I'll post more myself tomorrow. Long work day
I bet Maria is scum this game
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Post Post #3549 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 7:36 pm

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In post 3547, MariaR wrote:@S_S Why was PB holding the game hostage a bad thing?
Because it wastes everyone's time. I thought that he was preparing for some big thing, which would naturally make me not want to really get engaged with the day before seeing what it is (because obviously it would matter a lot for the course of the game). Seems like I was mistaken there, though.
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