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[NoPowerOverMe]

Agreeing with someone's POV is a wierd reason to townread them?

[Salsabil Faria]

Also Oopsie is super defensive whih is a scum trait.

I'm defensive too, how being defensive is a scum trait?

[NoPowerOverMe]

You don't seem defensive to me.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Being defensive is a scum trait because scum are more interested in their self preservation than town because there are generally 3 times more town than scum in the game.

[Salsabil Faria]

Agreeing with someone's POV is a wierd reason to townread them?

No, I'm talking about your townread on

Datisi

. You said he is with

Elements

and not with

OopsieDaisy

, that's the reason for townreading him which is weird. If you said like

Elements

's, you also agree with

Datisi

's point of view on

OopsieDaisy

, then it'll make sense to me.

[NoPowerOverMe]

That was my point. You are splitting hairs.

[Salsabil Faria]

You don't seem defensive to me.

Well, when I am scumreaded, other players say that I become defensive.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Maybe you should make an effort to continue to scumhunt when you are scumread then.

[Salsabil Faria]

That was my point. You are splitting hairs.

If you say so...

[NoPowerOverMe]

@Faria: Is english your first language?

[Datisi]

hot take: getting defensive when scumread is nai, and even town-indicative with some players. the idea that the town shouldn't be defensive or survivalistic is completely illogical. town doesn't wanna hang either, they're not jesters.

/end mafia theory rant

(if you're about to say that i just scumsclipped because i called town "they" and not "we", shut the heck up, i'm talking in general.)

[Elements]

hot take: getting defensive when scumread is nai, and even town-indicative with some players. the idea that the town shouldn't be defensive or survivalistic is completely illogical. town doesn't wanna hang either, they're not jesters.

I agree with this
But it's clearly a scum slip

[Salsabil Faria]

Maybe you should make an effort to continue to scumhunt when you are scumread then.

Yeah I'm still learning, main struggle point for me is the language difference. I can store the arguments in my head clearly but when it's time to deliver, I slip hard

[Salsabil Faria]

@Faria: Is english your first language?

No

[NoPowerOverMe]

@Datisi, this may be true, but "in general" as you say, scum are still more self interested in not dying than town.

Losing 33% of your team is a lot bigger deal than losing 10% of your team.

[Datisi]

if you're town, you getting hanged is (in vast majority of the cases) losing the only player you know with 100% certainty is town. that's a big deal.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Maybe you should make an effort to continue to scumhunt when you are scumread then.

Yeah I'm still learning, main struggle point for me is the language difference. I can store the arguments in my head clearly but when it's time to deliver, I slip hard

Don't worry, you're doing fine so far imo. I only speak one language so I admire those that are bilingual.

[NoPowerOverMe]

if you're town, you getting hanged is (in vast majority of the cases) losing the only player you know with 100% certainty is town. that's a big deal.

No one wants to get hanged, but in most cases you still know the majority is on your side, at least early in the game.

[Datisi]

i don't see how that has anything to do with what i said, but maybe it's for the best we don't start getting lost in theory talk.

cook scum yes/no?

[NoPowerOverMe]

Town vibes from Cook, although I'm not sure why he's scum reading Elements and Oopsie at the same time.

[Shigaraki]

Heyo, Daisy here! Haven't played in a few years (and that was on an alt with a yucky deadname) so this should be a fun reintro to stuffs!

Now iirc from the few episodes of A:TLA I watched, wasn't Zuko trying to kill the avatar? That seems pretty sus if you ask me...

VOTE: Prince Zuko

He had to restore his honor!

[DeathNote]

who is scum, salsabil?

Isn’t it very early to ask this question?

it's never too early to start catching scum

Do you find any?

Slight scum read here. Your smirk and sarcasm isn't endearing, it's deflective. Reads as passive scum.

I'm seeing rvs is stupid don't do it from scum npom and a lol rvs what a dumb idea am I right? Here

Booo meta is lame.

pedit: salsa, i think daisy is scum, care to help me wagon her?

No dear, it's not enough for me to vote

OopsieDaisy

because you think she is a scum.

VOTE: Elements

Your gut feeling doesn't make any sense to me.

Oopsie/Salsabil connection

Daisy come and town-spew

Nah, maybe later if I'm feeling up to it

Bad take

Also for the record this interaction isn't scum indicative for El they're fine for now

Trying to deflect attention. No one was concerned with El being fine or not. You bring this up as if you are in a 1v1 with them when it's not even close to being the case.

I actually can't understand you specially your conversation with

OopsieDaisy

.

That's fair. Daisy and I play mafia over discord weekly and as town she's chaotic and bubbly, whereas as scum she's much more serious and solvey.

Oh so you just aren't going to be able to contribute anything other then meta reads on Daisy with that much interaction. Bummer.

I've heard enough. Nice catch Elements.

VOTE: OopsieDaisy

Yeah unlike the first two votes on me this one I don't like.

UNVOTE: Prince Zuko
VOTE: NPOM

Ha You were just waiting for someone to vote you so you could finally give a read. All that talk about, "I want others opinions first," was just so you could deflect.

Being defensive is a scum trait because scum are more interested in their self preservation than town because there are generally 3 times more town than scum in the game.

Daisy was apathetic before she was defensive. I've also been town defensive far more often then scum defensive because I roll town more then I roll scum. Basically if you call me out, my gut reaction is to be defensive so maybe this take isn't a great take.

[DeathNote]

Sure I'll vote Daisy.

VOTE: OopsiDaisy

[NoPowerOverMe]

We've moved on...

[Datisi]

why is cook town?