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[Luca Blight]

VOTE: Zuko prove me wrong.

Why do you find him scummy?

It's more that I don't find him Townie, and I don't want him to fly under the radar.

[Datisi]

VOTE: saudade

e-2.

[Elements]

lets go team
we can elim sausage before he even gets to the thread

[OopsieDaisy]

Wait what's the deal with this Dade wagon? You peeps maybe wanna like, explain why you're voting em or smth cause right now I'm just seeing 3 naked votes and Salsa just going off their reasoning yesterday. Tho I suppose we can wait and see how Dade reacts when they get back.

[NoPowerOverMe]

VOTE: cook

[Cook]

I should change my name to NWOM.

No Wagon On Me.

VOTE: Saudade

E-1 so that I can cop someone.

[DeathNote]

VOTE: cook

i'm happy with my vote on cook atm, i'm just noting that oopsiedaisy is highly likely to be scum too.

UNVOTE:

ok i know what i said literally 3 posts ago but i have a very bad feeling about lolhammers so yeet.

UNVOTE:

i hate myself for this vote/unvote hopping but i'm about to go sleep and i do not want to have to keep thinking whether (in case he is *actually* town) scum will jump on this opportunity to yeet him and also end the day early and i need to sleep well for tomorrow so there.

cook is literally fucking openwolfing but town sometimes openwolfs and maybe scum will do our job for us

VOTE: npom

when in doubt

sheep luca blight

VOTE: zuko

Hmmmm so I picked out some votes of Datisi's and just by reading the first few votes, you can probably already see what the problem is as they call themselves out on it. There is some vote hoping that isn't a big deal but the lack of commitment and cautiousness to that final hammer was the sign of someone who is playing around what wagon to be on. I think ScumDatisi would be concerned with appearance and try to place themselves on the right wagon as opposed to actually scum hunting and when you look at it, there are no real "ah ha" moments from Datisi.

It's all just questions with not a ton of follow up.

The cook vote was the moment I said, "Datisi is town." But jumping on and off the wagon hurt that obv town moment to me as someone who knows Cook could actually be cop but is playing so piss poor a misvote could happen.

Is Datisi scum? Maybe... This probably isn't worth my time right now but I wanted to get this out there before we just vote out an inactive or something.

I'll have to catch up on Saudy, I don't know what the case is there.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Datisi may be scum but he's not a realistic option at this point.

[NoPowerOverMe]

@cook we all know you'll be "blocked" tonight.

[Cook]

@cook we all know you'll be "blocked" tonight.

hmm

i find this unlikely

[Datisi]

i can assure you i am not scum.

if i had a penny for every "questions with no follow up" accusation i've had thrown my way in my mafia lifetime.

the "final hammer" was a sign of someone who was ready to vote out a useless slot that had already claimed vt.

i could argue why the wagon hopping or whatever isn't scummy (there is a continuous thought process behind them) but like, i dunno if there's a need for that right now. if someone has questions they do want to ask me, i'm around somewhere.

[DeathNote]

Cook who did you target?

[NoPowerOverMe]

I find cooks caginess and willingness to day 1 claim inconsistent.

[Cook]

Cook who did you target?

Attempted to target Elements, no result.

[Luca Blight]

NPOM, can you explain your read progression on Cook

[Luca Blight]

Cook, why did you self-vote?

[NoPowerOverMe]

I wasn't willing to decapitate a cop day 1 but the story is more and more unbelievable.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Elements is also not a believable pro town target.

[Luca Blight]

The more I think of it, I don't think the Shig NK makes sense if both Shig and Cook are Town.

Shig was clearly BS'ing and baiting the NK, whereas Cook doubled-down on his claim, and was the cc which are generally seen to be more reliable,

and

Cook was more TR than Shig.

[Luca Blight]

It only makes sense if Shig's reads were really accurate, or if Cook is scum.

[DeathNote]

Cook
OopsieDaisy
Elements
Prince Zuko

Son of a Shephard

All scum are in this.

If I had to guess, it's Cook, Son of a Shephard, and Elements, but least sure on the Elements one.

This was Shig's last scum read. We know SoS is wrong.

There is a good chance Cook could be caught scum but it's hard to validate voting him out just yet. We likely have at least one investigation role and if it comes down to it and all we have is cook cop then there is no way we vote him off.

These reads are just... really rough though. 2 inactives, a cop cc that he knew wasn't even a cc as he wasn't a cop, and the pairing of Elements/Oopsie who started the game off meta reading each other.

I could see a world where Cook and one of Oopsie/Elements are scum together but the third is probably not just Zuko.


The fact that Shig got killed is pretty telling too imo. Who would go into the night thinking he was actually a PR of some sort? Probably someone new who didn't know better. Like would someone like... Luca do that? Nah no way right? Maybe kill him just because he is loud but he didn't really sway everyone that easily. I think this kill comes from players like Cook/Oopsie/NPOM/Zuko/Salsa but I don't know everyone well enough to be sure.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Shig no doesn't make sense at all really. Points to an inexperienced scum team.

[DeathNote]

The more I think of it, I don't think the Shig NK makes sense if both Shig and Cook are Town.

Shig was clearly BS'ing and baiting the NK, whereas Cook doubled-down on his claim, and was the cc which are generally seen to be more reliable,

and

Cook was more TR than Shig.

I agree. Cook is looking more and more likely to be scum but is also still our only claimed PR so voting there feels wrong.

[Luca Blight]

VOTE: Cook

Even if there is a scum RB, I don't understand why they wouldn't kill Cook and block Shig in this instance, which would then probably lead to Shig's elim on D2.

[DeathNote]

Shig no doesn't make sense at all really. Points to an inexperienced scum team.

Well i throw your name in there because you were constantly fighting against him creating town blocks and being a cop but then also throwing around the "town block" as a way to vote people off.