Open 804: Popcorn Mafia Redux [Game Over!]

[SirCakez]

Also I want to go back and look at all the people who were defending Norfolk as awkward limbait

[SirCakez]

shoot norfolk

Early distancing?

[SirCakez]

My list:

Netflix
Imperium
Mush
Not Mafia
Lotus
Unwnd
Cakez
Dunnstral
Duchess
Wheme
Rockhopper
ScrewTheTells

Ultimately, I don't mind being shot as it would clear all tbe gubbins around me up and we could move on, but I don't consider it a good trade for Netflix.

My town leanings are:

Imperium, based mainly on the interactions with Cakez and what I consider to be a parallel scenario with misreps.

Mush's application of logic is what I live for and I rate it highly.

Not Mafia is so reserved at the moment and based on my experience that's a little towntell.

Lotus was a little scumread for me earlier, but the back and forth with Duchess and the assessment in posts 437 and 439 have resonated with me. I like the theory and this comes across as genuine scumhunting.

I'm on the fence about Unwnd, Cakez and Dunnstral right now. I still feel that Cakez is just having a western and I don't think they're the right shot at the moment.

I wouldn't object to a Duchess or Wheme shot, both feel like they could flip scum.

Quiet Rockhopper isn't the gung ho town Rockhopper that I know.

And ScrewTheTells is my number 1 choice as previously mentioned.

Hmmm
STT more likely town
Wheme and NM more likely scum

[unwnd]

With scum using up their factional kill and the godfather out of play, this essentially makes the game a normal popcorn game

Gonna look back on a few things

[WhemeStar]

How does Norfolk slot being scum make me scum

I make 0 sense being partner with Norfolk lmfao

[SirCakez]

Yeah I was thinking about that
Every scum shot from now on gives us one more mis-shoot to work with. We've been stuck at two from GG forever so hopefully we can get that threshold up.

[SirCakez]

How does Norfolk slot being scum make me scum

I make 0 sense being partner with Norfolk lmfao

HUB basically ignored you

[SirCakez]

Wheme would be louder as scum unless he's like, mellowed a looot since I last played with him, I can reread that iso though I'm just going on a tone guttake right now

Except for when he was giving you crappy townreads

[WhemeStar]

How does Norfolk slot being scum make me scum

I make 0 sense being partner with Norfolk lmfao

HUB basically ignored you

LOL WHAT

[WhemeStar]

Guys I was memeing about shooting Norfolk chill...

yep this is me definitely distancing myself from my scum buddy

[WhemeStar]

Yo mush good job btw peta is next right

[Dunnstral]

Cakez unwnd MUSH (vacant) (vacant)

---Null void---
Peta
N_M
Dunn
--Null void---

Wheme (vacant) (vacant)

There are more vacancies than there are players? Or is someone missing

[unwnd]

MUSHSHAGANA

unwnd

Dunnstral
ScrewTheTells

Imperium

Not_Mafia
Rockhopper

Norfolk Boy1

SirCakez
WhemeStar

RLotus

Still thinking one more scum at the very bottom

[Dunnstral]

First read I was wrong on :/
@imperium we can have the discussion you want post-game
This even moreso reinforces that scum were going for the "shoot Cakez shoot imperium" game ender (along with the fact that both Duchess and HUB were pushing me hella hard obviously)

But HUB was scum so I'm happy with that
I want NM or Wheme today

How does this reinforce that if imperium got killed?

[Dunnstral]

And who was saying shoot cakez?

[unwnd]

look there's a reason i went on this tangent to begin with. it's because i was composing this while i was catching up:



this is, to the best i could manage, a record of who people were calling scum on day 1. i threw this together becausein a game with no votes, data matters, accountability matters, and i want a RECORD of who was calling for who to be shot

that imperium line? not an accident. when i was filling it out i couldn't any sense for WHO they actually scumread, which is part of what disturbed me. seriously. go back and read day 1 and try to tell me who their scumreads were. instead we got posts like this:

That means I don’t have any of the people I could see picking me low enough on it.

Tammy are you still around? Do you think this is a dumb rabbit hole to dig into?

I don't know. It's something I've been trying to figure out myself. I thought that if you were given the gun purposefully, they might have been planning to kill us the first chance they got based on potential overlap.

I didn't give you the gun.

Cakez is I don't know. He's either town who decided I was scum early in RVS, I was just looking back at that, and he's confirm biasing everything I write and missing every point I make and moving goal posts because he's just that confirm biased. People do do that, and some posts do feel somewhat townish, but man I don't know.

Dunnstral doesn't feel like scum to me, but I don't know if I'm writing him off too easily. We were in the anon dance game together, and he replaced into a scum slot and the way he pushed things were just really wrong, so I've been looking for pushes that feel weird and I don't see it. Right now he feels more like he did in xeno and tenet. Not a strong read, but.

Norfolk I'm not sure about. I don't think that the opening posts deserved the push they got, I didn't like yesterday's posts that much and I thought he might have been appeasing Cakez by calling him misguided town, but today's posts felt a little better. I'm going to continue to fence sit here. I know that's really weird for me to do, but that's where I am.

So, yeah I don't know. Numbers wise, there should be scum in there right? But I don't know where to place it right now with any certainty.

of course, now they've settled on a team that includes me and the 4 least productive players in the game, which is pretty ludicrous, but i admit, it's

something

this is also why i asked people for who their shot choices would be when i replaced in - i was going to try to track how people's stances changed and if they were possibly shifting them to encourage rlotus to shoot someone he already suspected but they had previously not mentioned much - i wanted to see if anyone's reads were shifting in an agenda-y way

some of this i was assembling yesteday, if you feel like i got anything wrong point me to the posts


trying to look over duchess's ISO and it looks like they knew they were screwed yesterday, they barely said anything about anyone, but I'll try to scrape it for clues

tbh i think STT's day 2 readlist speaks for itself thank u 4 saving me the trouble

[unwnd]

Norfolk/HUB was already positioned by scum to get bussed or die if peta's list is right. This makes me believe HUB was pretty much trying to stir the spot and nothing else. His team knew he was at death and so was HUB, so it was just spreading hysteria and nothing else

Unfortunately, that makes him less reliable to ISO as well

[unwnd]

Think today you shoot Not_Mafia/Wheme and you flip scum.

I still have the potential to be wrong about a townread, but those two should be resolved before I get there

[WhemeStar]

peta is best shot

[SirCakez]

And who was saying shoot cakez?

Duchess and HUB

[SirCakez]

First read I was wrong on :/
@imperium we can have the discussion you want post-game
This even moreso reinforces that scum were going for the "shoot Cakez shoot imperium" game ender (along with the fact that both Duchess and HUB were pushing me hella hard obviously)

But HUB was scum so I'm happy with that
I want NM or Wheme today

How does this reinforce that if imperium got killed?

Because we now know Imp was town
If Imp was scum obviously the theory was wrong

[MUSHSHAGANA]

This flip makes me feel better. Yeah, I didn’t have any townreads... but if I know Imperium was town now, that gives me SO MUCH MORE CONFIDENCE about unwnd, my other game-start townread. I can’t see it but I can just blindly trust in it and work outward from there.

HUB being scum and Duchess being scum makes me think we hit two more no problem, then we’re trying to unbury the deep wolf.

One of those easy ones at this point, I agree, is Wheme. It makes sense in the game where HUB is scum and Imperium is town and I lose the plot.

I think petapan might be the other one. I’ll give him a chance to persuade me otherwise. (Also I am currently without internet, so I’m stuck on my phone and posting sucks and I don’t want to shoot without getting a chance to really type my thoughts up.)

[MUSHSHAGANA]

The deep wolf themselves, I’m withholding my thoughts on until I have a physical keyboard.

[SirCakez]

I mean there's only three people you didn't name Dunn, STT and me
I wouldn't call any of us "deep wolves"

[SirCakez]

I think it's just Wheme, NM, and one of Peta or Dunn