Mini Number 2195 | Brutalism | GAME OVER

[Reformed Toxic Player]

i feel like im pocketed this game and it makes me uneasy

[RLotus]

I have my reads the way I do because I do, just like everyone else has their reads.

Something just seems a bit off about you Baltar, I can’t pinpoint it. Interactions and posts, etc. I can say the same thing about Lotus and Lunar. Although Midwaybear has seemed pretty townie so far.

I'm not satisfied with this whatsoever. It's not just that you're not calling anyone scum, but it's that you lack the scum hunting/town hunting effort that I see you have in the town games of yours that I've looked at. When you are town you poke and prod around, analyzing gameplay, coming to conclusions with reasoning. Even when you have gut reads you have some specific post to cite as to why. This isn't your town game.

italiano who would you vote for if you had to vote somewhere?

I’ve reread the game

Limpool {RLotus, Lunar, Green Crayons, Baltar}

Townleaning {RTP, Andres, Duchess??)

Everyone else is pretty null

So what I did irt to the Green/Duchess interaction is I read both sides as different alignments and Duchess was the most likely town between the two. In a t/s connection I couldn’t see Duchess as scum and Green as town. It could be a t/t connection, but after rereading the interaction multiple times, I feel like Duchess was more pure than Green was, so would town . It also isn’t that likely it’s a s/s bus connection on Day 1, so...

VOTE: Green Crayons

Although I’d be okay with anyone within my limpool.

I really really don't like this post, even aside from his sudden/shallow progression from Duchess scum to GC scum. You say that you are okay with an elim on anyone from your lim pool, which ok that's not scummy in itself. But, it's as if you are already giving up on trying to solve people. There are so many alignments up in the air and you yourself don't have anything solid on anyone. This is such an awkward time to settle on shooting inside your poe.

[RLotus]

Another thing. I find it strange how GC, Elements, and Italiano cooled off on Duchess seemingly simultaneously. I would get it if they had a reason to, like another wagon to jump to, or if Duchess had said something so obviously towny. To me, it would be quite unusual for town to be this coordinated. Typically, each town member have there own progression on there ideas and they shouldn't be lining up this easily. This seems to imply that there is someone being disingenuous among the three, going with the flow of town. I think there is scum inside of those three and I don't really think it's GC.

[RLotus]

their**

[ItalianoVD]

Re: 451 & 452
Well, you know, it might be better to vote me out then cause it's apparent I'm not gonna be of help to the town. I've been lazy man. All that stuff I do as town, I just didn't/don't feel like doing it this game, especially on Day 1. I don't know why, I just don't. Slots have been pinging me, but I just don't really feel like going in depth with it, hoping that gutreads would be enough. I know that's bad and not helpful, however, information can still be gleaned from my flip.

Another thing is I feel like everything I do and say is getting scumread and everything I answer is not good enough , and it feels like I'm just digging my grave deeper and deeper the more I post and interact. It's part of the game so it's cool, but it's also exhausting. If/when I do get to E1, I definitely won't hammer. I'm not gonna cutoff the discussion like that. And I'm not scum, I'm just bad townie this game.

[Datisi]

> i'm lazy, i don't feel like explaining my own reads
> i'm getting scumread and whatever i say is not enough [insert eyeroll emoji]

??????????????

[Datisi]

Where? Am I missing something?

Aww my bad you’re right. I meant to post this (bolded) in 435. This is what I had in my notes, just for got to include it in the original post. That’s why I thought I answered it.

I thought I was a reaction test for you, Italiano? I'm def scum now?

Okay? I never said you were def scum, just in my limpool. It just means that I’m more comfortable eliminating within my limpool than the players in the other categories.

what is the "(bolded)" referring to here?

[Datisi]

@rtp do you mind elaborating on what universes you're keeping track of and why you feel andres is scum? also i spent like 10 minutes typing up the italiano thing :c

rtp, i don't want to be chasing after you the whole game, but like, this is getting tiring. is there a concrete reason you're ignoring me?

[Datisi]

talk to me about your vote on dunn?

palate cleanser. felt getting sucked into a duchess vortex and wanted to break my vote away to force my attention away.

Baltar had just mentioned something about Dunn acting like lurker scum from prior scum game, which is a good enough to vote for me rn bc 1. voting lurkers is good for the soul, 2. Baltar pings me town, 3. i assume the meta analysis isn't wrong otherwise Dunn would say so, and 4. it wasn't Duchess.

alright, i can vibe with that.

i've seen dunn lurk as either alignment, but he definitely hasn't impressed so far. do you have anyone that actively pings you scum? (other than maybe duchess, i guess.)

[VP Baltar]

I hate that my guy says Italiano is town and every word out of his mouth is scummy.

I still want to yeet Dunn.

[VP Baltar]

my guy = my gut

[VP Baltar]

I mean this is probably just a POE thing.

Why did you feel compelled to answer for Italiano here?

[Green Crayons]

do you have anyone that actively pings you scum? (other than maybe duchess, i guess.)

I'm going to revisit Duchess, probably IRL tomorrow.

I'm getting scum pings from RTP and Harumi. Not sure if they are tied together, but they have both repeatedly ignored my direct inquiries; even though they have starkly different activity levels, it feels like they have contributed the same in terms of pushing the game forward; and RTP's preemptive claim of a secret town tell for Harumi doesn't sit right with me (particularly bc he refuses to engage on it).

[Green Crayons]

it feels like they have contributed the same in terms of pushing the game forward

to clarify: I don't think either has pushed the game forward.

[Green Crayons]

i've seen dunn lurk as either alignment, but he definitely hasn't impressed so far.

after being called out by Baltar, it was like pulling teeth to get him to engage and provide any sort of content. tbh not entirely sure which way that cuts in terms of alignment, setting aside whatever meta argument about Dunn and activity levels, but it certainly isn't pro-town even if it doesn't qualify as scum, so atm I'm happy to keep my vote here

[Reformed Toxic Player]

do you have anyone that actively pings you scum? (other than maybe duchess, i guess.)

I'm going to revisit Duchess, probably IRL tomorrow.

I'm getting scum pings from RTP and Harumi. Not sure if they are tied together, but they have both repeatedly ignored my direct inquiries; even though they have starkly different activity levels, it feels like they have contributed the same in terms of pushing the game forward; and RTP's preemptive claim of a secret town tell for Harumi doesn't sit right with me (particularly bc he refuses to engage on it).

Who are your townreads?

[Reformed Toxic Player]

And whats scummy about the actions youve stated, i.e. whats the scum motivation?

[Reformed Toxic Player]

Also can you requote the direct questions? I tend to skim on catchup, you need to typically catch me when im here to get me to answer stuff for sure.

[Green Crayons]

midway, andres, baltar

kiiiinda elements but more like not seeing a reason why he's scum bc his play here is pretty spot on with prior town games; so not really town points but more like the absence of scum points

[Green Crayons]

RTP, what do you think of Harumi's readslist? And are you able to share what your towntell was about earlier?

i honestly do not feel i will be much trusting harumi for reads rather than just a town mindset - but the tell I had noticed was they were clueless. Like overtly clueless. With newer/not as skilled/assertive players, coming off as brazenly clueless is a towntell.

If RTP is going to reveal his town tell for Harumi, can he also explain his thinking behind revealing the existence of a Top Secret reason to think she was town (which would seem to discourage additional votes on Harumi), but not revealing what that reason was because he wanted to see if the wagon would build:

[Reformed Toxic Player]

I already revealed it.

I'll quote it when im not at work
But discred me more will ya?

I think imma do trustfalls when i get home and analyze isos

[Green Crayons]

And whats scummy about the actions youve stated, i.e. whats the scum motivation?

ignoring direct inquiries means not having to explain your actions/reads

not pushing game forward means not potentially taking heat by pushing town vote, like lurker or active lurker status

your town tell with Harumi tbd I want to hear your response first

[Green Crayons]

I already revealed it.

I'll quote it when im not at work
But discred me more will ya?

I think imma do trustfalls when i get home and analyze isos

......

what the fuck is with people not reading my posts

[Green Crayons]

I *know* you revealed the town tell

that's not what I asked you for

JFC this game

[Reformed Toxic Player]

And whats scummy about the actions youve stated, i.e. whats the scum motivation?

ignoring direct inquiries means not having to explain your actions/reads

not pushing game forward means not potentially taking heat by pushing town vote, like lurker or active lurker status

your town tell with Harumi tbd I want to hear your response first

Can you identify which posts of mine are not attempting to push the game forward?
Because you are going to look silly when i prove you wrong