In post 1519, Battle Mage wrote:yeah funny enough i wasnt amused by the "i'm a mason with X" stuff, and deliberately ignored it. it just ain't pro-town imo.
That's confusing to me forIn post 1523, Battle Mage wrote:the reasoning hasn't changed since then, so that's the same answer.In post 1520, Pyro wrote:You can explain the reasoning at the time of this post at least, Battle Mage.In post 325, Battle Mage wrote:I also feel like War and Peace could just be town. stick them in the townpile for today.
oooh no bueno Toogeloo.In post 1153, Toogeloo wrote:Battle Mage and Batsu wants me dead. Batsu wants to lim Battle Mage now and if Batsu is wrong, they can die tomorrow.
Hang on... I'm trying to find a flaw in this plan from my perspective.
happy to revisit this with you laterIn post 1526, Pyro wrote:That's confusing to me forIn post 1523, Battle Mage wrote:the reasoning hasn't changed since then, so that's the same answer.In post 1520, Pyro wrote:You can explain the reasoning at the time of this post at least, Battle Mage.In post 325, Battle Mage wrote:I also feel like War and Peace could just be town. stick them in the townpile for today.reasons.
If she went with this exact list, the slots concerning me the most aren’t optimal D1 elims. My working theory is however that she tried to wifom me into drafting slots I probably wouldn’t expect. I had the entire scumteam figured out pre-game and now think it was probably wrong.In post 1491, Pyro wrote:They're slots capable of directing mislaunches, and are generally less shitposty/fluffy. This is without considering WIFOM factors or Titus trying to throw you off. These are just the players I think Titus likes and would want on her scumteam generally.In post 1408, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Can you tell me why you think those are her picks? Is it possible that she might have gone an entirely different route to throw me off the track?In post 1276, Pyro wrote:Since no one's done draft speculation yet, these are the players I think Titus is most likely to pick:
War and Peace (Ircher + samantha97)
Sherlock and Watson (Krazy + PenguinPower)
Starcrossed (Kanna + PookyTheMagicalBear)
Gamma Emerald
Morty and Rick (mastina + Auro)
Dunnstral
Battle Mage
thnxIn post 1402, Saudade wrote:Gamma I love you
Since when does role = alignment? Do you really think I would be so simple?In post 1518, Sherlock and Watson wrote:I have a theory about both their role and alignment but explaining one means explaining the other, I don't think she's a good day 1 right now though
-S
i didnt have a problem with your gut town read. I didn't support any of the stuff where people claimed mason - I just think that stuff is too transparent and gives scum too much info on who actually is/isn't a mason. It's a topic best avoided entirely.In post 1525, Sherlock and Watson wrote:In post 1519, Battle Mage wrote:yeah funny enough i wasnt amused by the "i'm a mason with X" stuff, and deliberately ignored it. it just ain't pro-town imo.
okay but you get that vacating the game when I give you a gut town read for 600 posts doesn't make me feel more confident about that read? like if you had a problem with it, why not engage me? Taking it for 600 posts then complaining about it later is kinda ???
-S
Why them?In post 1493, Battle Mage wrote:lol man this is not goodIn post 1199, Batsunami wrote:THANK YOU I LOVE YOU ALL PLEASE MAKE THIS WAGON GO THRU I WILL CRY IF HE SLIPS OUT OF MY GRASP
not an impostor, just an admirer.
you realise running me up to -2 is a surefire way to confirm whether I'm a mason or not? how does that help again?In post 1229, Batsunami wrote:Unless BM is a mason, he is for sure scum Nancy. I promise you.In post 1227, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Let’s not rush this people. I will consult with ALL of my masons/Miss Cleo and figure out the optimal fade. BM got miselimed last game, so how is he playing differently this time?
Fey, Sherlock and Watson - can you both talk me through the rationale for these votes?
ah this is interesting. yeah i think i'm still inclined to believe that you're town who just didn't get the hint. although your voting patterns haven't been great subsequently. You're downgraded to more of a townlean now I guess.In post 1189, Fey wrote:I have ignored it if only because it seems best to leave unhappy things behind; I am not sold on the idea of them being obvtown but neither do I think they are worth a vote, and currently find their read on Battle Mage resonating with me; before I had a brief conversation about not worrying about a townblock as much with Battle Mage, and it was not entirely to do with the reads issue! I was beginning to find him scummier if only because he mirrors the feelings I’ve gotten from Ircher: diplomatically slippery. It was more of a pocket read kept close though if only because it seemed better to have him believe I trusted him — also, BM often is pushed or wagoned D1 and I didn’t want to fall prey to such biases unfairly against him..In post 1154, 5uffering wrote:Some questions if it's worth your time.In post 1099, Fey wrote:As for why I fell off, I did not have a great time as seen a night or two ago, and yesterday I was sick so I focused on myself rather than this game. I am busy currently but will be around tonight to resume figuring out the game!
For some very quick lightning reads: I have no opinion on Starcrossed when I believe that they should have made more of an impact on me so far.. they should be easier to identify as town, so the pressure on them is good! In fact, I will join this wagon. VOTE: Starcrossed
I am still thinking about 5uffering due to the slot and how it was earlier. I don’t think I would vote there today.
Also, can someone explain the scumreads? On Saudade for me please.
I noted that you had a huge argument with Batsunami, even so much that you voted her around #245. How has your read on Batsunami developed and do you still hold her to that conversation? It's a slippery slope and I noted that you two worked out a form of apology, but since then you've mostly acted like it hasn't happened.
Did you read my catch-up wall? It's fine if you didn't. I don't mind reiterating anything I had said, so I would like to know what you think about War and Peace as well, who seemed to have caught your attention the most. Did you switch to Starcrossed just because it seemed like the people who were on it are townie?
VOTE: sherlock and watson
Because this queen might possibly KNOW things that YOU don’t, unless Titus did actually pick you.In post 1496, Saudade wrote:why is nancy is so certain the town wont rebel against her wishes if she'll be a bad queen
Okay, I know Titus and that’s complete nonsense. She plays to win.In post 1502, Saudade wrote:she prioritizes her own fun and well being first, doubt she'd enjoy me in her private mafia meetingIn post 1499, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Why not?In post 1411, Saudade wrote:Titus would never pick me btw
Yes please.In post 1504, Pyro wrote:You really should explain the War and Peace read
Its a theme game, pleaseIn post 1537, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Okay, I know Titus and that’s complete nonsense. She plays to win.In post 1502, Saudade wrote:she prioritizes her own fun and well being first, doubt she'd enjoy me in her private mafia meetingIn post 1499, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Why not?In post 1411, Saudade wrote:Titus would never pick me btw
Well, fair enough. i didn't do much more than say there was merit to part of Mastina's case in the other game and you immediately accused me of being scum or bad. Here I said i think it's possible because i did notice a difference, you have a good scumgame, you're a good pick etc., but i'm not convinced.In post 1500, Battle Mage wrote:you didn't do anything though, so why would i say that? *shrug*In post 1495, Batsunami wrote:Haha i did mention to Noraa i expected him to mention how he expects me to be better than this or something along those lines, as he usually might. Not complaining thoughIn post 1489, Pyro wrote:Tbh I was expecting more ridicule and frustration from Battle Mage
~Bat
you're in a hydra with noraa - she is doing what noraa does, you are doing what you do. it's pretty much what i'd expect from you both.
mm much betterIn post 1489, Pyro wrote:I'm shocked and disappointed you only have me as above random town. I should be locktown, and I thought you were better at reading me than this.
Sorry but I'm going to decline. Doesn't benefit town to do so.In post 1540, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Yes please.In post 1504, Pyro wrote:You really should explain the War and Peace read
In post 1521, Saudade wrote:Because one of us is a bad playerIn post 1516, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Why are you sr my trs?In post 1456, Saudade wrote:oh my god this is like one of the most common scum slips ever
and odds are its not the brilliant player
In post 1326, Batsunami wrote:Haha I never have confidence on the first 2-3 days, except for on some of my townreads which are always my main goal to get during this time. in that respect, Tsunami and I are polar oppositesIn post 1296, Fey wrote:Does anyone know how much confidence each individual head of Batsunami could fake on a read like this, or how much emotion they could fake regarding being angry for people not biting?
In theory this feels towny to me and I think they do err towards town but something right now is pinging me about this, I think it is how they’re strong arming everyone and then saying they won’t get flipped? Even if Battle Mage is town. It is a LOT of confidence and I’m unsure if either of these players are ever like this...
I do not believe I've seen this from scum!Noraa, except perhaps in a game I modded where she and a scumpartner theatered confident SRs on each other for a while D1. Even there i dont believe they were calling for quick elims on each other though.
May as well bring the thread in on this, Noraa and I have opposite takes on Pyro at the moment. hopefully she's shared most of hers so i'll just focus on what ive been saying
Pyro halting the momentum on his own wagon (War and Peace) or at least shifting from it in order to investigate Starcrossed for a supposed ellitell appears town to me. It comes across as a thought he genuinely had and feels is important enough to mention and confident enough to push -- whereas I struggle to find a decent incentive for scum Pyro to do this. Especially cause ellitells are kind of unsavoury but definitely could feel accurate to the user. I wondered if this is a purposeful distraction to a scum wagon but that just doesnt make much sense when he's cutting off his own wagon really (this was before BM)
^This is fine, but something I think I can fake as scum without too much worry.
The other thing i noticed was Pyro going for the full solve including one of his own townleans (without even going over the reasoning until a few posts later). i feel it betrays he's thinking pretty deeply about his reads, certainly more than surface-level takes on each individual player. Pyro definitely has does this in the past, even successfully calling out lots of scum this way, so it doesnt surprise me to see it
^This is a really good reason and made me realize I don't really do this as scum. Much appreciated for the intel.
Not convinced yet although Pyro does come off pretty fluid this game, very active, he does not like scum as much as town. i dont have a lot of experience with him as scum although this does match my town expectations
~Bat