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Nancy Drew 39 She/HerNot that Inno ScentShe/Her
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I can wait until tomorrow but I’m 100% taking my cues from Akarin/Misty, who are both voting Pine.**********We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)~the worst*******Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl~CheekyTeekyNancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.~Taly-
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Nancy Drew 39 She/HerNot that Inno ScentShe/Her
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and my team who are all convinced on an FL/Pine team and in that order of confidence. I am less sure but I think the Ico strongman thing is kind’ve hard to believe with molla flip/FL claim.In post 4775, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:I can wait until tomorrow but I’m 100% taking my cues from Akarin/Misty, who are both voting Pine.
So that is the part that pings me most, rather than the ungated thing. I also think scum probably want to kill Misty > me because they think I’m the easiest pocket.
I also really really hate all of the AtE emo arguments trying to discredit me and especially Akarin. Telling me I’m wrong and that I shouldn’t sheep confitown doesn’t convince me of jack.
I don’t believe DEB used the strongman on Ico when it made way more sense to use it on molla. Ico never softed PR anywhere.**********We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)~the worst*******Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl~CheekyTeekyNancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.~Taly-
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Ramcius Mafia Scum
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I come back and you guys trying to flip Pine? Where gone "we still have time?"
Just for the record, conf town doesn't mean they have better reads than you. Also, ofc scum want kill Mystix, they want to keep even numbers, otherwise we can flip Mystix to go back to odd numbersTact is for liars and politicians.-
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Mistyx she/xeMafia Scumshe/xe
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we haven't been doing anythingIn post 4777, Ramcius wrote:I come back and you guys trying to flip Pine? Where gone "we still have time?"
Just for the record, conf town doesn't mean they have better reads than you. Also, ofc scum want kill Mystix, they want to keep even numbers, otherwise we can flip Mystix to go back to odd numbers
"we still have time" doesn't matter if we aren't using that time-
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Pine In Your Head
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Here’s the problem with this.In post 4758, Mistyx wrote:VOTE: pine
w/e
i'm done deliberating with myself in circles
if this loses the game so be it at least its better than losing by inaction
You aren’t sure, but I canmake ussure.
If I’m right, we win the game.
If you’re right, you’re still flailing about trying to connect dots because guess what? You’re wrong.
You don’t kill the unprovoked protective/investigative claim here, regardless of other factors.
My role results in hard confirmations."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Ramcius Mafia Scum
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Pine In Your Head
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Fine, ugh. I’m just so beyond done with this game.
We elim scum!Shea here, I jail Norwegian!scum, game won with an earned guilty.
We elim scum!Shea here, I jail Norwegian!town, we have like, three confirmed Town, we win mathematically.
We elim me, we DON’T have a confirmed scum, we DON’T have confirmed Town (other than Akarin), we’re in endgame with no leads and Town has no clue what to do next.
This is just...its throwing. But fine. Whatever. I needed to pay attention to this game earlier on and not let it get off the rails, that’s my takeaway from this."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Pine In Your Head
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It’s not FL.In post 4781, Ramcius wrote:I'll be honest, I'm really paranoid of TSQ/FL team here, FL doing 180 on me and not voting TSQ, while talking me/TSQ and Norwee TSQ teams"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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NorwegianboyEE GLADiator
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Your spot is very weak and your case on me and TSQ even weaker, so trying to cause paranoia about the elimination by flexing your "powerful role" is all that is left.
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Mistyx she/xeMafia Scumshe/xe
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seeIn post 4782, Pine wrote:Fine, ugh. I’m just so beyond done with this game.
We elim scum!Shea here, I jail Norwegian!scum, game won with an earned guilty.
We elim scum!Shea here, I jail Norwegian!town, we have like, three confirmed Town, we win mathematically.
We elim me, we DON’T have a confirmed scum, we DON’T have confirmed Town (other than Akarin), we’re in endgame with no leads and Town has no clue what to do next.
This is just...its throwing. But fine. Whatever. I needed to pay attention to this game earlier on and not let it get off the rails, that’s my takeaway from this.
this is fully based off the logic that if we don't elim you we elim scum 100% today
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Pine In Your Head
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You’re right. But if I’m massively wrong about Shea, we’re in exactly the same position on D4, but removing me eliminates our best shot at a mechanical solveIn post 4785, Mistyx wrote:
seeIn post 4782, Pine wrote:Fine, ugh. I’m just so beyond done with this game.
We elim scum!Shea here, I jail Norwegian!scum, game won with an earned guilty.
We elim scum!Shea here, I jail Norwegian!town, we have like, three confirmed Town, we win mathematically.
We elim me, we DON’T have a confirmed scum, we DON’T have confirmed Town (other than Akarin), we’re in endgame with no leads and Town has no clue what to do next.
This is just...its throwing. But fine. Whatever. I needed to pay attention to this game earlier on and not let it get off the rails, that’s my takeaway from this.
this is fully based off the logic that if we don't elim you we elim scum 100% today
which just isn't true"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Pine In Your Head
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Mistyx she/xeMafia Scumshe/xe
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Pine In Your Head
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In post 4228, Pine wrote:In post 4215, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
Speaking of, when is he planning to post that?In post 4097, Flavor Leaf wrote:im sorry, i just feel a lot of scum energy coming from Norwegian guys, and that also helps my Pine town read.
His Norwegian case, or Dannfloor's really, is far superior to mine, im not the case maker, i go off feeling people's auras and actionsIn post 4080, Pine wrote:Paraphrased from Dannflor:
Dann had a few minor observations about other players (including calling Shea out as a deepwolf long before I was convinced of it), but his thoughts focused most strongly on the Nancy vs FL issue and Norwegian. To continue.
Whew, that was lengthy.
Here are the most salient parts of my solve. While Norwee can argue from repetition as much as he wants, it’s a strong case.In post 4555, Pine wrote:
Of course they're already answered. Your whole thing this game has been asking innocuous nonsense questions and then ignoring the answers when they don't align precisely with the narrow intent of your question.In post 4551, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Pine, telling me to shut the fuck up here is absolutely uncalled for and you can do better than that as a person and as a forum moderator. I am asking that you answer those questions because I do not believe you have answered them, and shutting down discussion in one of the rudest ways possible is just not on. Please answer the questions and do not tell mee to shut the fuck up again. If you feel you have answered the questions, then please quote where you have answered them and I will explain why those answers are not satisfactory, because I have read all your posts and those questions are not answered.
I apologize for the incivility, but the tactics you're choosing to use this game are really tilting me.
Asked and answered. The entire premise of an ungated Jailkeeper as Town's primary protective role is exactly fine.In post 4547, NorwegianboyEE wrote:What does Jingle think specifically about Pine being the only ungated role in the setup?
Asked and answered, I think? We've been talking about the implications for a week now, so if you want something specific, ask it instead of waving your hands around with some vague "AHA" like this.And whether there are any implications of this.
Because he can't post in this game. What are you even doing with this?And why Jingle hasn't acknowledged this as a weakness of the claim himself
No, he didn't, I did.JJH doesn't really see Jingle coming up with that bad point about the strongman referencing roleblocking when that's what the normal strongman role PM looks like.
Absolute bullshit. Strongman roles are usually CALLED Strongman roles, and they are described like this.It's phrased exactly the same way in the previous untrod tripod vs anime game. That's literally just how strongman role PMs look; it doesn't imply anything about the setup.
and Pine should know that and Jingle definitely knows that.
I'm going to quote a line from that MafiaWiki article you didn't read before trying this attack:
EVEN THE STRATEGY SECTION OF MAFIAWIKI SUGGESTS MY/JINGLE'S POSITION IS CORRECT.
You may personally dislike me, you may have found me abrasive this game, but Mafia is a game of reason, not emotion.
This is the solve."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Pine In Your Head
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We’re both always betting the game on a correct elim today.In post 4788, Mistyx wrote:and if you're town here you're betting the whole game on shea being scum
because you know if we miss today you go down tomorrow
Mine has the failsafe of a strong PR to give us more info for D4. Either a full solve or at least additional knowledge.
Further, if FL or I successfully protect, we earn an extra mis-elim. It does not make mechanical sense to elim me here"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Thestatusquo He/HimSheaHe/Him
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Which is precisely why you claimed a role like the one you did, even if it doesn't make any sense. You've been scummy this whole game, have done nothing to find scum the whole game, and now you're in a position where you need to not die so you claimed a role that would keep you alive one more day. The problem is that it's an obvious fake claim. Like again, I get it, you're saying the things you need to say but come on dude.tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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Pine In Your Head
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*giant eye roll*
If I wanted to stay under the radar I’d have claimed X-shot or something simple.
I chose the hard truth.
I mean seriously, your version of this is that Flavor Leaf and I, two of the best scum players on site, got together and decided to make a huge, stinky claim without basis, while drawing obvious lines connecting ourselves, with the blessing of Jingle and Dannflor, who are putting in massive effort to fake a solve.
That’s literally what you’re insisting."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Pine In Your Head
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Thestatusquo He/HimSheaHe/Him
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Good players can make mistakes. "Did a bad thing so they are town because they are so good" is a bad argument and you know it. I think either you claimed your real role as scum or you just didn't notice that everything else was x shot.
I'm not sold on FL being your partner, I think its the most likely scenario. Again, because good players can make mistakes.
Your "multi page solve" was today, while you were under immense pressure. Before then you had shown absolutely no interest in trying to case the game.
And your multi page solve is a lot of words to say "the conf town players are conf town and the non-me and FL players are in the PoE" essentially.tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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Pine In Your Head
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NorwegianboyEE GLADiator
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Admitting your claim is bad but that makes you town, is quite the stretch and wholly unconvincing as TSQ says.
And you’re right, you should have chosen X-shot or something simple. But you didn’t, and now you messed up.Norwe is spontaneous, has a stream-of-consciouness posting style, usually posts on catch-ups by commenting on past pages posts, gets rather fired up in certain moments in games, is relatively as playful as me in games and likes casual shitposting
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Pine In Your Head
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Ramcius Mafia Scum
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