Titus v Nancy Drew (Game Over)

[Sherlock and Watson]

I don't feel like there's much of a narrative here. The only thing that would come close to it is that someone used their ability to skip the night as a squeeze and now you're seeing the repercussions of people who didn't have time to think about their reads.

Explain what you mean about the night skip?

[SaraharaS]

Still following me? Probably not.

I don't want to touch Dominant players today.

I would compromise with a social player.
My preference: Morty and Rick > Sherlock and Watson > Saudade > Akarin.

I would very much lim anyone who is coasting.
My preference: Battle Mage > Starcrossed > Toogeloo > War and Peace.

Unknown is crapshoot. Scum doesn't care about them or it's scum who doesn't care.

the whole vibe around the 'dominant players' feels weird to me

i signed up for pooky to carry me but his back hurts apparently...

~mitsuha

this is a nice start for Star

Anyone I listed dominant:

I'm giving you special attention. I'm looking at your words and thoughts and using them as my own leverage. Don't misuse this, and know that if you're fooling me I'll figure it out...

meh

lol
How do you read me, mysterious 'Bat'?

Hmm i agreed with an Akarin post earlier that found your analysis of Gamma's posts good since it came off as genuine reading rather than with a purpose

My best guess for reading you is looking at your reads and telling whether they shift all nicely and fluidly or if you get stuck on reads and generally stay consistent, maybe the read switches are more forced looking. I feel like that's what you mentioned being a weakness of yours in a scum game but might have remembered wrong

you're above random town at the moment for playing so often combined with that idea of your scum game i have. My other half may have some words for me on this though

~Bat

you should have him as locktown at this point y'know

5uferring's method of sorting is really entertaining to read and that makes me not want to vote him... devious.

I felt that way about Hopkirk in DC with his poetry.

ooh i like writing poetically, how's mine?

Does anyone know how much confidence each individual head of Batsunami could fake on a read like this, or how much emotion they could fake regarding being angry for people not biting?

In theory this feels towny to me and I think they do err towards town but something right now is pinging me about this, I think it is how they’re strong arming everyone and then saying they won’t get flipped? Even if Battle Mage is town. It is a LOT of confidence and I’m unsure if either of these players are ever like this...

Haha I never have confidence on the first 2-3 days, except for on some of my townreads which are always my main goal to get during this time. in that respect, Tsunami and I are polar opposites

I do not believe I've seen this from scum!Noraa, except perhaps in a game I modded where she and a scumpartner theatered confident SRs on each other for a while D1. Even there i dont believe they were calling for quick elims on each other though.

May as well bring the thread in on this, Noraa and I have opposite takes on Pyro at the moment. hopefully she's shared most of hers so i'll just focus on what ive been saying

Pyro halting the momentum on his own wagon (War and Peace) or at least shifting from it in order to investigate Starcrossed for a supposed ellitell appears town to me. It comes across as a thought he genuinely had and feels is important enough to mention and confident enough to push -- whereas I struggle to find a decent incentive for scum Pyro to do this. Especially cause ellitells are kind of unsavoury but definitely could feel accurate to the user. I wondered if this is a purposeful distraction to a scum wagon but that just doesnt make much sense when he's cutting off his own wagon really (this was before BM)

The other thing i noticed was Pyro going for the full solve including one of his own townleans (without even going over the reasoning until a few posts later). i feel it betrays he's thinking pretty deeply about his reads, certainly more than surface-level takes on each individual player. Pyro definitely has does this in the past, even successfully calling out lots of scum this way, so it doesnt surprise me to see it

Not convinced yet although Pyro does come off pretty fluid this game, very active, he does not like scum as much as town. i dont have a lot of experience with him as scum although this does match my town expectations

~Bat

Bat and Pyro are both locktown btw

[olaf]

Sarah please help me
my sanity levels are draining

[Fey]

We'll get through this.

[olaf]

Fey you are amazing
please light me up and throw me into an active volcano

Can you be anymore great?!

well i could be italiano

[5uffering]

political readslist

Stop this.. I've seen that like five times now and it really is not used in good faith, or even correctly. What does it even mean to be political in a game like Mafia? The game is inherently a form of debate in the first place.

[Sherlock and Watson]

i'm giving some legit advice
that isn't even ai

Sure but it feels like you're explaining that toog is town and trying to use that preflip as a pretext to undermine a scumread on your slot

Like yeah it could be nai advice but it sure reads like something that certainly could be ai

[5uffering]

I don't feel like there's much of a narrative here. The only thing that would come close to it is that someone used their ability to skip the night as a squeeze and now you're seeing the repercussions of people who didn't have time to think about their reads.

Explain what you mean about the night skip?

It would've really helped to see what the mafia did or even for TPR to get a chance to do something, but instead the night was skipped and we're forced into an extended D1. Not sure what else to say.

[Sherlock and Watson]

Political readslist = readslist putting people in places other than purely because of reads. It's not like an insult, it's a description of why the reads are placed where they are. Town can be very political with their readslists

[5uffering]

That feels like a made up definition. No offense.

[Sherlock and Watson]

Right but you said 'someone' -- you don't think the night skip was titus?

[SaraharaS]

Sarah please help me
my sanity levels are draining

what's going on?

[SaraharaS]

wait knowing what's going on might pollute my 1000000% rapid speed catch up ugh

[Sherlock and Watson]

That feels like a made up definition. No offense.

Sure, but that is how I'm using the phrase/concept

[Titus]

My DnD cancelled. I still may take the day off. I'm unsure. Enjoy a temporary reprieve.

[Toogeloo]

Simply put, political play is trying to pander your reads to the more vocal masses without inciting the ire of any vindictive players... Just like real life politics.

[Sherlock and Watson]

Well Titus if you do decide to play today I still want to see a detailed response to my VCA

[Titus]

@Watspn/Toog, Is my play political?

[Titus]

Well Titus if you do decide to play today I still want to see a detailed response to my VCA

When I get actual wagons.

[SaraharaS]

Simply put, political play is trying to pander your reads to the more vocal masses without inciting the ire of any vindictive players... Just like real life politics.

don't you mean

panda

your reads
damn, i'm hilarious

[olaf]

Sarah please help me
my sanity levels are draining

what's going on?

nah it's good
do your catchup unpolluted and unbiased
can't wait till you get to the part where radiantcowbells-flavor leaf hydra reps in

[Toogeloo]

wait knowing what's going on might pollute my 1000000% rapid speed catch up ugh

Good luck with that. I've still only actually read about 22% of all game posts, with most my focus on whatever the current conversation is.

[Toogeloo]

Simply put, political play is trying to pander your reads to the more vocal masses without inciting the ire of any vindictive players... Just like real life politics.

don't you mean

panda

your reads
damn, i'm hilarious

[Sherlock and Watson]

Simply put, political play is trying to pander your reads to the more vocal masses without inciting the ire of any vindictive players... Just like real life politics.

I would say it's more than that. Political play is also very positive. Like you're paranoid about me because Input you at the top of my readslist politically, not because your play has in and of itself been the towniest in the game but because I think you are town and I wanted to see your reaction to being at the top of my list. You getting paranoid about that is townie. Fey seeing herself at the top of NoraaTweet's list and leveraging that to change approach to list is scummy, even though Fey is still probably town.

[Sherlock and Watson]

Simply put, political play is trying to pander your reads to the more vocal masses without inciting the ire of any vindictive players... Just like real life politics.

don't you mean

panda

your reads
damn, i'm hilarious

This is town :3