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Short story number one: Queen Noraa and her discovery of pearls.
Part 7~

"And?" Hectic asked.
"Um she wants to know where she can find these or if you could also give her a few" says Morning.
Hectic chuckles a little as he grabs a huge rock on the table behind him.
"Do you know what this is?" he asks.
"A rock" Noraa says.
"This is an oyster
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[4] JohnnyFarrar:
Aristophanes, Titus, Infinity 324, Gamma Emerald
[E-3]

[3] In the beginning:
JacksonVirgo, Flea the Magician, Toogeloo
[2] Infinity 324:
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[1] Titus:
In the beginning
[1] StatueSurfer:
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[2] Not Voting:
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Post Post #201 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:26 pm

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Noraa no :(
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Post Post #202 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:26 pm

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I'm going to be busy the next couple days but I'll hope in soon thereafter
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Post Post #203 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:42 pm

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VOTE: gamma to counter. I think a vote on me is easy and lazy and the rule of three thing just feels half hearted
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Post Post #204 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:44 pm

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In post 202, Titus wrote:I'm going to be busy the next couple days but I'll hope in soon thereafter
When you come back, I'm interested to know what you think of my vote
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Post Post #205 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:44 pm

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In post 58, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 42, Aristophanes wrote:Oh, good catch Italiano. E-1 this early is a bit much.

I agree there is likely scum there, will take a look in a bit. Any thoughts on who looks like a culprit there?
In post 46, Momrangal wrote:Vote on Ari now srs.
VOTE: Ari
In post 44, Infinity 324 wrote:Murder do you have thoughts on your wagon
A couple yeah. I think Flea is ever so lean towny. You and Gamma get a pass. The vote I'd be most worried about is pikachu but I'd probably do that as town, so it's fine. ITB I am just going to sort later.

What do you make of Titus Infinity?
Could you explain the reasonings behind this vote?
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Post Post #206 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:48 pm

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In post 80, Titus wrote:I'm not really sure what to think of MURDERCAT's hero solve. It seems not to jive with what his perspective should be, namely that scum deliberately wagoned him to claim. Which would mean at least one of Statue and Beginning should be in his solve. Also, Ari being in his solve is entirely opportunistic. If MURDERCAT is scum and the rule of 3 applies then Infinity should be scum as well.
Isn't a hero solve generally something you give a stab in the dark? But yeah I think you're strongly town from this

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Post Post #207 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:49 pm

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In post 87, Momrangal wrote:VOTE: infinity

Scum wagon ahoy
This vote gives me the heebie jeebies, no idea why
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Post Post #208 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:51 pm

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In post 110, In the beginning wrote:I don't like the top wagons.

We should just
VOTE: No Lim

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Yeah this is just bad, I like my vote where it is
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Post Post #209 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:51 pm

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In post 112, Momrangal wrote:Actually

I don't think I like titus this game
Oh why's that? I am going to disagree with you here
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Post Post #210 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:52 pm

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In post 115, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 114, Toogeloo wrote:Yeah, no.

VOTE: In the beginning
Toog this is weak :/
ITB isn't going to be that transparent as scum
That's the whole rabbit hole of TSTBS and that's an actual stupid way to read someone, especially when we have no idea who they are, well at least I have no idea who they are.
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Post Post #211 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:54 pm

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In post 118, MURDERCAT wrote:ok ok
I think you should reconsider Infinity though, I think he is too afraid to switch his read on me and I don't think town him would be SRing me
I think just from Murder 'hard-defending' ITB here I think they're not aligned if one flips scum.
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Post Post #212 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:59 pm

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In post 153, Titus wrote:I detest ITB's no elim vote, but I feel like that's an easy miselim to jump on away from Infinity.
I would have to agree to this if Infinity ends up flipping scum, otherwise I don't think it's much to look into for now.
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Post Post #213 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:01 pm

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In post 161, JohnnyFarrar wrote:
In post 42, Aristophanes wrote:Oh, good catch Italiano. E-1 this early is a bit much.

I agree there is likely scum there, will take a look in a bit. Any thoughts on who looks like a culprit there?
Gamma or Titus. Mayyyyybe statue
I like this for scum as well, this seems like a weak way to try and fake reading.
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Post Post #214 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:03 pm

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In post 172, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Ur scummy
In post 173, Titus wrote:Then why aren't you voting him?
Yeah I'm pretty set on town!titus and scum!farrar
I am losing confidence in my early read on ITB

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Post Post #215 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:06 pm

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In post 188, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 184, Titus wrote:VOTE: Johnny
In post 185, Infinity 324 wrote:VOTE: johnny
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Is this a general rejection of the wagon or of the sequential votes.
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Post Post #216 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:07 pm

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Something to note, I do not remember Farrar acting like this in any game at all so that's giving me *some* pause over their wagon.
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Post Post #217 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:39 pm

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Yeah I'm a little burnt out rn but I like Noraa so here I am. My vote is serious and my tone is not
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Post Post #218 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:30 am

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This is not really in any particular order, so bear with me please <3

@INB: Okay, if you want an analysis of the MC wagon, there's, like a 90% chance or whatever of scum being on the wagon. Except that's assuming it's random, when it probably isn't. Frankly, it's almost exactly as helpful to say that "there is definitely scum
off
the wagon," so I don't see any special reason to focus on people on the wagon vs people off the wagon, or to use it as a reason to SR anyone.

Anyway

In The Beginning:
That vote to, quite deliberately, put MC at E-1 was scummy af. The no-elimination vote is super weird, but doesn't make any sense for scum to do, and I don't he's done anything scummy since. Probably town.

Infinity:
I really think scum would've dropped a baseless read by this point, rather than riding it and risking making themselves look scummier in the process. He's making some effort to generate reads, so I'll say this is probably townie.

Murdercat:
I think everything he said during the exchange with Infinity was reasonable. Accusing Infinity of lying about his read strength... that's a bit scummy, but considering there is no actual logic to the read to start with, it's understandable. Has also raised a couple decent points. Null.

Toogeloo:
Has done basically nothing... although given his RL situation, that might be understandable. I'll need to see more though, and I don't like what I've seen so far.

Aristophanes:
So I agree with MC that the "Good catch" thing felt kinda fake, so when I was writing this post I took a look at Ari's ISO and... holy crap. There are several questions, but no analysis/follow-up on the answers and reads on maybe three people. I think this is all pretty suss.

Flea the Magician:
Well, Titus, since you asked, here and here are examples of people overestimating Flea's towniness IMO (yes, the second one is after my post. That's because I misinterpreted #106 as Mara saying Flea was town for #105, rather than the reality that Mara was responding to Italiano's #104)

With that out of the way, I disagree that Flea is nearly as town as some think. #69 is what Italiano TRed them on, but I think it looks kind of "fake townie" like a little too cutesy "oh ha ha that was close!" (in fact, that's basically what the post says, and it rubs me the wrong way), and I definitely agree with ITB that scum would be glad to not be a townie's turbowagon. #105 has Flea
outright saying that they are going to lurk.
They do have "reads" on a handful of people, but most of the posts even since RVS are just fluff. I think scum!Flea could easily be trying to skate by doing the bare minimum.

The slot's null to me, by the way. Just noting that Flea is definitely not a lock for town.

Gamma Emerald:
Not quite sure what to make of him...
appears
to be trying to make an effort to analyze and question, yet kind of has Ari's problem of lack of follow-up (I don't see any attempt at follow-up to #176 or #179 for example). Also was mostly on Ari before switching to Johnny (although for understandable reasons). Null.

ItalianoVD:
I had a sneaking suspicion that Italiano might be scum trying to misdirect town toward MC's wagon, but after reading his ISO I don't really think so now. Scum would probably be trying to push those people regardless of whether any of them had posted or not, as that would give great towncred. That being said, this slot is null.

Titus:
Titus' posts, by and large, don't seem very substantive to me. There's a weak (her word, not mine) read on Murdercat, a naked vote on Infinity that's basically a sheep of Mara, and then a jump onto Johnny (which is very understandable, and which I'm going to be doing at the end of this post, but could also be an easy miselim for scum to push). She does correctly point out why my second post was terrible, but that's it. Scumlean.

Jackson Virgo:
No read, because they've had barely any activity up until now and I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

Momrangal:
Appears to be making effort to make reads and ask question (but, again, lack of follow-up) and even question her own reads, so seems more town than scum to me. On the MC townread: I don't SR him, but I do think meta is BS.

Why do you think Infinity is scum, by the way?

JohnnyFarrar:
Mostly has fluff posts except for, like, maybe three. Which are mostly terrible anyway; #161 makes #203 look ironic af, because 203 calls Gamma lazy for voting Johnny... while 161, as far as I can tell, picks three random names from the MC wagon, which was already looked at with suspicion, and with no reasoning. After 161 is a bunch of fluff, a naked read on Infinity, and an OMGUS on Gamma. I don't see the slightest attempt at questioning or analysis, so there's nothing townie here as far as I can tell.

VOTE: JohnnyFarrar
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Post Post #219 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:56 am

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That's E-2 I believe
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Post Post #220 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:43 am

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Do you lim all bad players stats?
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In post 218, StatueSurfer wrote:Frankly, it's almost exactly as helpful to say that "there is definitely scum off the wagon," so I don't see any special reason to focus on people on the wagon vs people off the wagon, or to use it as a reason to SR anyone.
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Post Post #222 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:30 am

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I wanna do my tunnel thing... but every time I do I end up tunnelling town...

Oh and if you're unfamiliar with me, you'll learn to look past the fluff ;) and who said I'm human!? o.o

VOTE: noraa
Too quiet, not normal o.O

Honestly, surfin pika's breakdown seems off to me, like theres a good amount of effort gone into that lovely list, and frankly I dont buy the reads in there.
In post 218, StatueSurfer wrote:This is not really in any particular order, so bear with me please <3

@INB: Okay, if you want an analysis of the MC wagon, there's, like a 90% chance or whatever of scum being on the wagon. Except that's assuming it's random, when it probably isn't. Frankly, it's almost exactly as helpful to say that "there is definitely scum
off
the wagon," so I don't see any special reason to focus on people on the wagon vs people off the wagon, or to use it as a reason to SR anyone.
Theres sitting on the fence... then theres tap-dancing on the blooming thing.
Do you write Boris Johnsons speeches by any chance?
In post 218, StatueSurfer wrote: Anyway

In The Beginning:
That vote to, quite deliberately, put MC at E-1 was scummy af. The no-elimination vote is super weird, but doesn't make any sense for scum to do, and I don't he's done anything scummy since. Probably town.
Meanwhile me observing I wasn't on there in my usual weird way is actually scummy. Amusing.
In post 218, StatueSurfer wrote:
Infinity:
I really think scum would've dropped a baseless read by this point, rather than riding it and risking making themselves look scummier in the process. He's making some effort to generate reads, so I'll say this is probably townie.

Murdercat:
I think everything he said during the exchange with Infinity was reasonable. Accusing Infinity of lying about his read strength... that's a bit scummy, but considering there is no actual logic to the read to start with, it's understandable. Has also raised a couple decent points. Null.
This is weird. Like I've got T on both of them, but you've gone T and N. And you're going on MC challenging read strengths? Well lemons guess Im about to lockscum myself.
*nibbles on some lemon drizzle cake*

In post 218, StatueSurfer wrote:
Toogeloo:
Has done basically nothing... although given his RL situation, that might be understandable. I'll need to see more though, and I don't like what I've seen so far.

Aristophanes:
So I agree with MC that the "Good catch" thing felt kinda fake, so when I was writing this post I took a look at Ari's ISO and... holy crap. There are several questions, but no analysis/follow-up on the answers and reads on maybe three people. I think this is all pretty suss.
So SRs?
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Flea the Magician:
Well, Titus, since you asked, here and here are examples of people overestimating Flea's towniness IMO (yes, the second one is after my post. That's because I misinterpreted #106 as Mara saying Flea was town for #105, rather than the reality that Mara was responding to Italiano's #104)

With that out of the way, I disagree that Flea is nearly as town as some think. #69 is what Italiano TRed them on, but I think it looks kind of "fake townie" like a little too cutesy "oh ha ha that was close!" (in fact, that's basically what the post says, and it rubs me the wrong way), and I definitely agree with ITB that scum would be glad to not be a townie's turbowagon. #105 has Flea
outright saying that they are going to lurk.
They do have "reads" on a handful of people, but most of the posts even since RVS are just fluff. I think scum!Flea could easily be trying to skate by doing the bare minimum.

The slot's null to me, by the way. Just noting that Flea is definitely not a lock for town.
This is far too much effort and analysis to have a null read :D I love you didn't link # though and my "reads" as you put it is hella dismissive. You're outright calling me a scum bucket, but youre unwilling to commit. Why? Like seriously other than a bit of misrep from you which I find amusing, I'd consider this a decent D1 case to start shoving and pressuring.
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Gamma Emerald:
Not quite sure what to make of him...
appears
to be trying to make an effort to analyze and question, yet kind of has Ari's problem of lack of follow-up (I don't see any attempt at follow-up to #176 or #179 for example). Also was mostly on Ari before switching to Johnny (although for understandable reasons). Null.

ItalianoVD:
I had a sneaking suspicion that Italiano might be scum trying to misdirect town toward MC's wagon, but after reading his ISO I don't really think so now. Scum would probably be trying to push those people regardless of whether any of them had posted or not, as that would give great towncred. That being said, this slot is null.
This ties in with the read on me. The post they made calling me town has been suspected, and theres town cred being given here for someone not just jumping on the wagons.
*takes out the pack of straws*

Theres 100 in there, should stop you reaching as much.
In post 218, StatueSurfer wrote:
Titus:
Titus' posts, by and large, don't seem very substantive to me. There's a weak (her word, not mine) read on Murdercat, a naked vote on Infinity that's basically a sheep of Mara, and then a jump onto Johnny (which is very understandable, and which I'm going to be doing at the end of this post, but could also be an easy miselim for scum to push). She does correctly point out why my second post was terrible, but that's it. Scumlean.
This is is about as artificial as my hair colour. Your SLing her for her honesty and for doing something you claim youre going to do.
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Jackson Virgo:
No read, because they've had barely any activity up until now and I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

Momrangal:
Appears to be making effort to make reads and ask question (but, again, lack of follow-up) and even question her own reads, so seems more town than scum to me. On the MC townread: I don't SR him, but I do think meta is BS.

Why do you think Infinity is scum, by the way?
So this is a TR, and saying MC isn't an SR - when making smething like this it seems weird and obfuscatory to repeat a read without making it clear on a skim theres 2 reads here given your post structure overall.
In post 218, StatueSurfer wrote:
JohnnyFarrar:
Mostly has fluff posts except for, like, maybe three. Which are mostly terrible anyway; #161 makes #203 look ironic af, because 203 calls Gamma lazy for voting Johnny... while 161, as far as I can tell, picks three random names from the MC wagon, which was already looked at with suspicion, and with no reasoning. After 161 is a bunch of fluff, a naked read on Infinity, and an OMGUS on Gamma. I don't see the slightest attempt at questioning or analysis, so there's nothing townie here as far as I can tell.

VOTE: JohnnyFarrar
You've given people with more posts and about the same effort a pass, this is stinky.

VOTE: SurfinPikachu/StatueSurfer

So much here feels forced and weird and contradictory...
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Post Post #223 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:56 am

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I wanna TR the effort from a new player, I don't agree that what you pointed out are scumtells for a new player
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Post Post #224 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:04 am

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In post 43, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 42, Aristophanes wrote:Any thoughts on who looks like a culprit there?
Somewhere in the late bloomers: Titus, Statue, In the beginning
Wanna reeval this real quick...

Titus: has had townie posts, but I didn’t like the naked votes [MURDER, Johnny]. Nothing has really stood out other than that. And maybe the vote on Murder comes from town!Titus, not sure. This will probably be a spot I’d need help from the players who have more experience with her to properly rate.

Statue: It may just be gut, but I’m still feeling scum!statue here. feels weird. It’s not all bad, but it just feels weird. I’ll get into later. Also @statue, have you ever played with MURDER before?

In the beginning: gonna stay at null for the time being. We were scum teammates in our last game. Posting style is pretty much the same but wouldn’t know what to expect from town!itb anyway. I’ve liked some things and I’ve disliked some things. Will be in a similar place as Titus as far as players knowing what stands out.

I got no shame in sheeping; when it makes sense. :] Of course if I see something that doesn’t sit right with me I’m gonna push it regardless.

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