Mini Normal 2197: Noraaland ~Endgame~

[Bhad Bhabie]

the ceiling?

Our first prodded tsunami: Aristophanes

[MURDERCAT]

You seem particularly focused on MURDERCAT; unusually so in my opinion. I think it would be better if you didn't spend all your time tunneling a single player.

Infinity always tries to sort me

[Flea The Magician]

Dont remember them being this aggressive on you tho :/

[Flea The Magician]

In fact I dont remember Infinity being this aggressive ever

[Infinity 324]

How about when I tunneled gloria/isis in ss3

[Flea The Magician]

yeah ok there was that, and that was pretty brutal... wasnt this early though.

Havent seen gloria for a while

[Aristophanes]

the ceiling?

Our first prodded tsunami: Aristophanes

OOPS!

Honestly, I've just been super busy. Imma try to do something here tn.
Sorry guys.

[ItalianoVD]

I need to sort these other slots.

[ItalianoVD]

I'm starting with you Infinity.

[MURDERCAT]

Dont remember them being this aggressive on you tho :/

To be fair, I don't think Infinity has ever had a gut Sr on me

[Bhad Bhabie]

Hey tsunamis, we are just past the halfway mark of day 1!
Hang tight and soon you can get some rest!

[Aristophanes]

Hey tsunamis, we are just past the halfway mark of day 1!
Hang tight and soon you can get some rest!

Can't I rest now?

[Flea The Magician]

Nora I just goddamn shit myself with that ¬_¬

I used to drive on that road daily.

[Flea The Magician]

(yes there is a place called Halfway, it is halfway between the centre of 2 cities We brits have amazing naming conventions)

[In the beginning]

Don't agree that they're different things, the more energy someone has, the more they will be diving into nuance and things like that.

And I still fundamentally disagree with your disagreement. Energy is a state of being; energetic players are more responsive and engaged with the game; less energetic players are more leisurely and watchful. Diving into nuance and stuff like that is different; that's a reflection of how deeply someone is reading. You can be engaged but not reading deeply. Likewise, you can be reading deeply and carefully but not engaged and active within the game.

What did you think of me reversing my read?

It doesn't feel right. You seemed to just suddenly flip positions without a good progression. In other words, you spent a bunch of time hammering away at MURDERCAT only to do a seemingly last second reversal.

I do not see it as a town's solving mindset, who would actively be trying to find scum rather than just give in

This is very general, and I think you're discarding the fact that every situation, every post, has a surrounding context. The other issue is not looking at the big picture. What I mean is you need to consider a player's general posting pattern. What are there posts suggesting in general? Focusing too much on individualistic posts doesn't work because there are too many variables at play, and too little info from any single post.

it is 100% stupid to clear someone for TSTBS

Never did I say it was a clear. What I did say was that looking at this at a very black and white, "This is bad. Thus, it comes from scum," is a very narrow perspective, and I'm requesting that you look at it from a wider angle. Consider it a game of probabilities; is it more probable scum did this or is it more probable that town did it, not is it good or is it bad.

@Beginning

, why do you have a request to specifically not use the abbrevation of INB, when that's not even an abbrevation of your name. ITB would be

I'm requesting it because at least one player has abbreviated my username as INB, and I think it's a poor and potentially confusing abbreviation.

I was warned that Normals were slow... I had no idea.

They move at a walking pace. Also, it's only slow when you compare it to large themes, especially when the large themes have a bunch of fluff posters.

I was warned that Normals were slow... I had no idea.

They move andante, at a walking pace. Also, it's only slow when you compare it to large themes, especially when the large themes have a bunch of fluff posters.

[ItalianoVD]

Sorry so I had some personal stuff to do so I only got halfway done with your iso. I'll try to get to the rest tomorrow.

Spoiler:

Not sure if you saw it, but just wanted to hear your thoughts on 32.

The thought of an all town wagon did cross my mind, but would consensus town really be that comfortable bringing any wagon that close to elimination within the first two pages?

Lol you were in the game where koba hammered you on like page 2 and they were your scumbuddy right?

Did this somehow do anything for you trying to sort my slot?

I'm here, I voted murder because I always RVS murder and the vote is now kinda serious

In 72 you mentioned the real reason you scumread MURDER is because of gut so was your initial vote RVS or straight out gut?

61 and 63 are pretty ironic. I actually lol'd at it. Were you serious? I just think it funny how you scumread someone and then ask why they would scumread you, like it's an impossible thing.

I'm E-2, fyi

This post was scummy to me because it's like "hey make sure not to kill me" but you don't contribute anything.

Eh, maybe, but what's there to contribute on page 2? And wouldn't he just say that in the scumchat?

Your 67 in response to 66 seems unreasonable or just theatre.

I understand gutreads. Sometimes it's the little things that you're able to catch. 78 89 and 92 are where you point to this. I've done this myself and it's all good, but then why this...

I'm not really one for soulreads especially within the first couple of pages. I'll leave it be since it's apparently not uncommon for Infinity but I also think it is an easy place for scum to hide and/or pockets to be lined depending on usage.

I get this, and I'll stop focusing on murder so much if it's not useful. To be fair, I think I would have trouble faking a read like this as scum, and I generally have trouble faking SRs as scum. I think murder should know that too, which is why I don't see his SR on me coming from town. Gamma mentioned the game he modded where I was scum and murder was town--there, murder had doubts about my alignment and lots of people (including his neighbor) were SRing me, but he was willing to cooperate with me and work with me for the time being. Here he's like not doing that, he asked me about titus but the cooperative energy isn't there.

Ok onto other slots.

If this soulread was as strong as you made it why jump off of it just because Ari calls you out? Do you still scumread MURDER? Is it some type of test or something?

I am looking forward to statue's reads. I find his current post underwhelming because it seeks to undermine townreads but doesn't really put forth scumreads.

Summary: Infinity isn't persuasive. Maybe there's scum on the murdercat wagon, maybe not. ITB is strange (note: no conclusion). People townread Flea too easily. No conclusion as to who is townreading Flea too easily. No conclusion as to whether that's townie or scummy. No conclusion as to Flea's alignment.

A lot of words, but it says nothing. I want to see more.

This post feels towny, also I think it's towny for titus to speculate the me/murder scum theater, she likes to sound more reasonable as scum. Not sure I agree with statue scum.

So you're saying Titus' theatre speculation is unreasonable?

I'm going to be busy the next couple days but I'll hope in soon thereafter

When you come back, I'm interested to know what you think of my vote

Why?

Fixed broken post links

[JohnnyFarrar]

A lot of this game is folks sayimg they want to sort and then going silent for 12 hours. Somebody just chat it out with me

[ItalianoVD]

I'm up.

[ItalianoVD]

But not for long.

[Titus]

VOTE: Statue

I don't like the disappearing act after the wagon formed on him.

L minus 1

[Momrangal]

I have nothing to add

[JohnnyFarrar]

Not gonna offer to hammer statue?

[Infinity 324]

Spoiler:

Not sure if you saw it, but just wanted to hear your thoughts on 32.

I was wondering if any of the other murder votes were serious

Did this somehow do anything for you trying to sort my slot?

No, maybe if you had responded in a way that connected the two situations it would've helped me sort you

In 72 you mentioned the real reason you scumread MURDER is because of gut so was your initial vote RVS or straight out gut?

? Murder hadn't posted when I made my initial vote. It was RVS

Were you serious?

Yes? It wasn't a "why would anyone think I'm scum???" I just wanted to see his reasoning

Eh, maybe, but what's there to contribute on page 2? And wouldn't he just say that in the scumchat?

Maybe an initial vibe/gut read or something? And maybe his scumbuddies were not on the wagon, or were on the wagon but offline and he wanted to make sure town didn't hammer him

If this soulread was as strong as you made it why jump off of it just because Ari calls you out? Do you still scumread MURDER? Is it some type of test or something?

? I absolutely still SRed murder at this point, but a bunch of people were disagreeing with me and the push was going nowhere so I decided to (try to) hold back for a bit

So you're saying Titus' theatre speculation is unreasonable?

I think it should be unlikely from her perspective, yes

Why?

She was SRing me before, one of the reasons I voted johnny was to see her reaction. Was she going to like the johnny wagon less or like me more? I thought it would be helpful to sort her.

This felt very busy work-y. Did you draft this post in a PT?

Fixed broken spoiler

[Bhad Bhabie]

I need to snag

[Bhad Bhabie]

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