Open 806: JK9++ (Game Over!)

[PenguinPower]

[Isis]

that's an intriguing play

is the use of bold unvote to enhance the pocketing of an 09er

[implosion]

Yes, and it's a campaign I've been running all game.

[Isis]

implo runs the long cons

[implosion]

The year is 2385. The month, perhaps July. The game is long over. It turned out that via a mod error, there were actually two serial killers, five mafia, and a faction of three third party pseudojesters that could only win if they all received the same number of votes each day. Only three players, three pour souls, were given town role PMs, those being Aaron "fucking" frost, implo "why did i join an sk game" sion, and Schiavetto.

A scant farrago of words appear on the screen, posted at nine in the afternoon, by one of those players:

"implo still scum. Night 3 Roses is pretty obvtown; more to come."

[Isis]

implo would you craft posts designed to pocket me like this as scum?

also would you play sion as scum?!!?

[implosion]

osion is dead. I am only impl.

[Isis]

sometimes i want you to become imp
you could be so adorable
would you become an imp if that's what it took to pocket me?

[Isis]

i constantly thank god for esteban

[implosion]

the proper shortening of my name is and has always eternally been impl.

[Isis]

losio

[SirCakez]

PM me setup questions please. I will not answer setup-related questions in thread.

Why not?

It's just my policy after some confusion in my last Large Theme game.

[Bridgeburners]

Cakez wouldn’t answer which makes me strongly believe there’s been an error and scum do have daytalk

-QB

[Bridgeburners]

I PM’d and he said I could say he wouldn’t answer, to be clear

-QB

[Isis]

Wtf

[Isis]

Idk if it's an "error" the wiki says to use a quick topic and those aren't really used anymore so if it was edited to fix that, you could, or could not, add dayltak while at it? I guess daytalk is a balance shift so it's an error if that's not what jk9 was balanced around.

Does anyone know if tenet had daytalk

[petapan]

yes

i don't really understand why this matters though

[Isis]

Mena is caught scum trying to generate fake townslips how is that not important

[Isis]

Petapan if you are scum you should bring me to eLo o.k.

[petapan]

im not but thank you

[Isis]

VOTE: datisi

[Isis]

I don't feel comfortable voting BB right now but also would prefer not to talk about it

[petapan]

personally i think all mods should have the players acknowledge the mafia have daytalk when confirming their roles

[Schiavetto]

Cose da fare:
-reread both hydras, both of them keep doing things i like & things that make me go huh? &i need to make a more concerted effort to place them
-iso peta, not super thrilled w/ them since they subbed in

Good times, good times. anyway:

-iso peta, not super thrilled w/ them since they subbed in

Did some soulsearching here and I think my biggest beef with the slot was some of the sloppiness on entrance--stuff like 1666, 1714 and 1584 felt...not quite misreppy but like, unpleasantly shallow? the main bits were the way they spoke abt inf's progression on imp & esp. the comment about having thought aaron wasn't garnering much attention while speccing. In hindsight I think my concern w/ that was mostly me nitpicking--a lot of those earlier posts are p consistent with a world where town!peta subs in fresh off speccing & is trying to keep momentum up imo. None of it really holds up to a cui bono for scum!peta either imo, considering how yesterday ended (people had already called out AF at various points throughout thread, 1712's "may I present a third option" is weird coming from scum who doesn't really have any reason to position themselves as the person heading up that alternative). I'm also a fan of the progression on Phoebe--I think peta's interactions w the slot late in phase D1 felt solve-y, and the frustration coming through in their D2 interactions w/ Phoebe is well justified from town (considering that Bridgers is literally making things up but we'll get to that)

Cose da fare:
-reread both hydras, both of them keep doing things i like & things that make me go huh? &i need to make a more concerted effort to place them

Starting w/ Phoebe, who i think is probably the worse offender here. Earlygame i kind of put them on this shelf bc like... otoh, shitposty to a fault (not even quality shitposts, bar has never been lower) but otoh there were some sprinklings of good that made me want to keep them around. like, i don't think their SR on isis early on was all that bad, and while i've personally lightened on isis (atvl, i can't place her as a partner with anyone on the playerlist), the SK take in 1090 was inch resting--to the point where i honestly kind of wish they'd revisited it, even if it's probably just maf sussing out opposing scum.

I feel like people have remarked on the head dissonance enough that I won't harp on that too much, but going back through Phoebe's D1 in the context of our two flips is Not Great. 441 from Phoeb with the whole "separate tier" thing just straight up feels like someone trying to get out of having to place a read on their partner, and the dialoguing btwn NS and both bridgeheads D1 around why they read e/o the way they do stands a decent chance of being s/s i think.

Looking back, I also think 511 from Bridgers telegraphs Aaron flipping green &is probs TMI. Bridgers (like most of the game tbf) had a lot of professed TRs yday--afaict, Isis was main SR, ben was a concession, and they had scipio town'd before peta subbed in--but it strikes me as sketch to play dumb about it, which is largely what happened yday and by all indications is where the push on peta is coming from. I'd feel maybe better about Bridgers on Peta if not for how much of the case seems to come down to "You were wrong (but nobody else on Aaron was)". I feel like it's p easy for scum!Phoebe to scapegoat peta here while just ignoring the other people reading Aaron's slot. 2750 is less interested in actually making sense of a wagon that you two already said you had trouble with, and more with putting someone on the chopping block. Also fwiw, I don't see how Peta's read on mirrors mine on Imp's.

On to Shy--I think I mostly still like this. Atvl, I think their D1 holds up to scrutiny better than the other hydra. Interactions w/ Shirou rule out a redflip p cleanly imo, but even beyond that I think their posts lean overwhelmingly toward trying to sort folks.

[Schiavetto]

Spoiler: tldr