Open 806: JK9++ (Game Over!)

[Schiavetto]

slanking toward bethlehem

this was slept on

[Bridgeburners]

Link. Your fucking. Posts.

-QB

[Bridgeburners]

As skitter isn’t here and I get to be in charge of our votes for now;

VOTE: schiavetto

-QB

[Bridgeburners]

I stand by 495 coming from scum significantly more often than down, and the vast swathe of excuses and fuck all just to arrive with a convenient logic for sussing the top wagon (but not actually laying a vote down) in 3148 is scummy

-QB

[Bridgeburners]

1090
441
511
2750

[Bridgeburners]

Cose da fare:
-reread both hydras, both of them keep doing things i like & things that make me go huh? &i need to make a more concerted effort to place them
-iso peta, not super thrilled w/ them since they subbed in

Good times, good times. anyway:

-iso peta, not super thrilled w/ them since they subbed in

Did some soulsearching here and I think my biggest beef with the slot was some of the sloppiness on entrance--stuff like 1666, 1714 and 1584 felt...not quite misreppy but like, unpleasantly shallow? the main bits were the way they spoke abt inf's progression on imp & esp. the comment about having thought aaron wasn't garnering much attention while speccing. In hindsight I think my concern w/ that was mostly me nitpicking--a lot of those earlier posts are p consistent with a world where town!peta subs in fresh off speccing & is trying to keep momentum up imo. None of it really holds up to a cui bono for scum!peta either imo, considering how yesterday ended (people had already called out AF at various points throughout thread, 1712's "may I present a third option" is weird coming from scum who doesn't really have any reason to position themselves as the person heading up that alternative). I'm also a fan of the progression on Phoebe--I think peta's interactions w the slot late in phase D1 felt solve-y, and the frustration coming through in their D2 interactions w/ Phoebe is well justified from town (considering that Bridgers is literally making things up but we'll get to that)

Cose da fare:
-reread both hydras, both of them keep doing things i like & things that make me go huh? &i need to make a more concerted effort to place them

Starting w/ Phoebe, who i think is probably the worse offender here. Earlygame i kind of put them on this shelf bc like... otoh, shitposty to a fault (not even quality shitposts, bar has never been lower) but otoh there were some sprinklings of good that made me want to keep them around. like, i don't think their SR on isis early on was all that bad, and while i've personally lightened on isis (atvl, i can't place her as a partner with anyone on the playerlist), the SK take in 1090 was inch resting--to the point where i honestly kind of wish they'd revisited it, even if it's probably just maf sussing out opposing scum.

I feel like people have remarked on the head dissonance enough that I won't harp on that too much, but going back through Phoebe's D1 in the context of our two flips is Not Great. 441 from Phoeb with the whole "separate tier" thing just straight up feels like someone trying to get out of having to place a read on their partner, and the dialoguing btwn NS and both bridgeheads D1 around why they read e/o the way they do stands a decent chance of being s/s i think.

Looking back, I also think 511 from Bridgers telegraphs Aaron flipping green &is probs TMI. Bridgers (like most of the game tbf) had a lot of professed TRs yday--afaict, Isis was main SR, ben was a concession, and they had scipio town'd before peta subbed in--but it strikes me as sketch to play dumb about it, which is largely what happened yday and by all indications is where the push on peta is coming from. I'd feel maybe better about Bridgers on Peta if not for how much of the case seems to come down to "You were wrong (but nobody else on Aaron was)". I feel like it's p easy for scum!Phoebe to scapegoat peta here while just ignoring the other people reading Aaron's slot. 2750 is less interested in actually making sense of a wagon that you two already said you had trouble with, and more with putting someone on the chopping block. Also fwiw, I don't see how Peta's read on mirrors mine on Imp's.

On to Shy--I think I mostly still like this. Atvl, I think their D1 holds up to scrutiny better than the other hydra. Interactions w/ Shirou rule out a redflip p cleanly imo, but even beyond that I think their posts lean overwhelmingly toward trying to sort folks.

[Schiavetto]

i constantly thank god for esteban

Give us this day our daily dooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooose
of
faux-af-flic-tion

[Schiavetto]

Link. Your fucking. Posts.

-QB

As skitter isn’t here and I get to be in charge of our votes for now;

VOTE: schiavetto

-QB

I stand by 495 coming from scum significantly more often than down, and the vast swathe of excuses and fuck all just to arrive with a convenient logic for sussing the top wagon (but not actually laying a vote down) in 3148 is scummy

-QB

Hit dog will holler

[implosion]

VOTE: Schiavetto
top wagons solidarity

[Bridgeburners]

You don’t want to step to me, schiavetto

-QB

[Bridgeburners]

Especially not when you’re citing posts like 2750 which is literally a meme pagetop from pingüino

-QB

[Bridgeburners]

Hey datisi, how would you feel about voting schiavetto?

-QB

[Schiavetto]

Especially not when you’re citing posts like 2750 which is literally a meme pagetop from pingüino

-QB

***2570, my bad.

[Schiavetto]

Firm on both reads though.

[Bridgeburners]

2570

[Schiavetto]

Yes, 2570.

[Isis]

personally i think all mods should have the players acknowledge the mafia have daytalk when confirming their roles

I don't know whether or not this was a thing before I started implementing it, but hectic always does it now and I feel like I've seen another mod do it

[Datisi]

Hey datisi, how would you feel about voting schiavetto?

-QB

no opinion.

answer my q about how you're reading ico and i might help you out.

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[post]2570[/post]

[Isis]

Schiavetto are you french?

[implosion]

personally i think all mods should have the players acknowledge the mafia have daytalk when confirming their roles

I don't know whether or not this was a thing before I started implementing it, but hectic always does it now and I feel like I've seen another mod do it

you were supposed to vote schiavetto in this post; why didn't you?

[Bridgeburners]

Oh cool, you’re here

I haven’t read ico since yesterday but gypyx’s posting was god awful enough that I think the slot could be scum

-QB

[Bridgeburners]

Yesterday as in D1

-QB

[Bridgeburners]

Are you feeling more open to voting schiavetto now?

-QB

[implosion]

we need to push the wagon through before

the fun police

skitter gets back