Sunny 2: Rules of Im-peachment - Over!

[midwaybear]

Cfv

[Gypyx]

Gamma / Cakez where are y'all guys?

[SirCakez]

im here but I just can't put much time in here rn

[SirCakez]

when I have time later this week I plan to review the ISOs of all the dead scum

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m just a CFV

[Gamma Emerald]

And like, you know where I’m at m8

[Gamma Emerald]

Who came up with the theoretical final 4? I’m curious what made them think MWB would get NKed over Noraa.
Yes I called out MWB, there’s a logic to this.

[Gypyx]

guess S_S is CFV too but wanna confirm that maaaybe?

[Something_Smart]

Still don't see why I would, unless you think I'm a viable execution target today.

[Gypyx]

nope, but idk, zaiden seems to have some info

[midwaybear]

@Gamma this was my preferred order entering Day 5

Also, here were my thoughts coming into the day
Don’t want: Jingle, Noraa, Zaiden
Don’t want today: Murder, Maria SS
Could compromise: Gypyx
Don’t townlean: Cakez, Gamma
Of course, we should take things slow, and I will review the game.

Sir Cakez has been the one pushing miselims.
Also, my first instinct was that Zaiden’s fruit ability doesn’t have to do with role knowledge? Idk.

[Gypyx]

yeah not sure, thought that maybe zaiden was a tracker, but y'know

iv says scum is prob in gamma / cakez btw

[midwaybear]

And like, you know where I’m at m8

What does this mean?

[midwaybear]

That’s a weird thing to thunk

[SirCakez]

i don't understand why there was a strongman???

[SirCakez]

all of town PRs were just two 2-shot watchers? really?

[Gypyx]

probably that pies can give protectives / roleblockers?

[Gypyx]

i'm bored

zaiden, can you claim your result yet? i might have to actually scumhunt if this game keeps stalling

[Gypyx]

and no one wants that to happen

[SirCakez]

i am just having the week from hell i can't do it right now and we have lots of time still
sorry guys

[Gypyx]

yeah no problem cakez

[Zaiden]

Hey, I've returned. Had an interview today I've been spending the past few days preparing for. So this is going to sound really dumb. I thought I had one shot tracker and asked to use my ability on Midwaybear thinking maybe I could see where he was going and figure stuff out from there. Well, I actually had a one shot watcher. Admittedly, I would have used it differently had I known. But no one visited Midwaybear. At least that's what I've been told by Unpod Tripod. That was my result. Which I find pretty odd because surely it should have shown me visiting Midwaybear for this result.

But like how does that work wouldn't scum have just funneled the kills through MWB if they were ninja to avoid tracker/watcher? And the counterpoint against MWB being bad is that he nailed MT by pointing out they claimed Dixie Red which was the same as Spring Breeze. Urghhhhhhhh. I just don't know. So maybe Gypyx and MWB are both town? But I think once Pink Ball revealed he spotted MT visiting SPF it would be easy to bus the partner at that point. Which is the reason I hold Gypyx in a higher light - since he was already calling out the Clidd spot before PB came forwards with the reveal. Whereas MWB buried a hatchet that was already probably going to be buried. Also protecting MariaR like that looked too convenient/too good. I think just about anyone would think the way she played was nothing but scummy and the logical progression to consider her being town is one that was lost on me by the time we reached the point of limming her. I guess I'm ridiculously paranoid of MWB deepwolfing. It's just so hard to shake that feeling and the watcher result is surely abnormal? Though it might just be that my ability doesn't count against itself. Someone please clarify.

As for Gamma Emerald, albeit it's their most recent game and I get the impression they would be appealing to emotion more as town? Team Mafia they've come across indifferent, tonally speaking and relatively under the radar in terms of contributions. Yes, Cakez pushed for miselims. But I think it's not alignment indicative. Plus contrasting with Gamma's relative indifference, Cakez seems involved with trying to solve and quite genuinely frustrated/emotive? Scum could sit back or commit to whatever wagon they want to at this point, right? And because of how our investigative roles solved a lot of these guilties leaving no room for doubt it's difficult to read through the subtext of whether a person is being opportunistic or not jumping onto previous wagons. Is there anyone who's clearly trying to go under the radar/look good? Because to me it feels like MWB has been more interested in looking good than pushing for a solve on this game - though I can concede on their point that the 3 peach ability did wind up being useless seeing how I'm alive even if that's more of a hindsight thing probably. And it makes sense scum doesn't get busted with such a low peach investment ability otherwise this setup would be awful.

S_S, as the original person who cased Cakez on D1 I believe, do you have any particular thoughts on Cakez? Do you think your points still hold weight or do you think the game state has progressed to a stage where your previous casing cannot be applied? I believe your interactions in the game earlier, and how you put it aside to push Spring Breeze reads as more town in retrospect. Since I would have imagined if either of you were scum, you would have pushed the wagon off your strongman onto each other/taken the bullet for Spring Breeze. Obviously I could be wrong, but that's how I'm currently reading it.

For me current POE is between MWB/Gamma Emerald - Cakez on/off pending on input from S_S.

@Cakez, sorry to hear you're having a rough week. It gets better though. Here's hoping and feel free to take your time.

[midwaybear]

Which I find pretty odd because surely it should have shown me visiting Midwaybear for this result.

Well why don't you clarify this with the mod

[Gamma Emerald]

A50 has been saying since like the previous day phase that he thought scum was between Murder/Noraa with an outside chance of MWB
I’m not sure if he’s re-assessed that at all but based on that MWB’s equity seems high for being scum
But I personally don’t want to lose to Gypyx if he’s scum

[Gypyx]

hmmm, this game

tbh, i'm not voting mwb unless one of you guys got some very interesting evidence on em'

we could always no exe today in order to vend more peaches and potentially get more ability shots going? that seems like a good thing to do, plus it'll prob clarify the PoE