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Post Post #2550 (ISO) » Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:06 am

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In post 2548, Andresvmb wrote:And now you’re calling them hardTown.
Quote me saying that. I think Lotus is more likely town after he took the time town town meta me. That has nothing to do with him arguing against me D1.


But my only hard towns are Datisi and momrangal.
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Post Post #2551 (ISO) » Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:07 am

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In post 2549, Andresvmb wrote:Don’t worry you don’t have to fight me anymore I’m voting midway. I’m effectively conceding.
Are you voting midway because you think he's scum or because you think that he will flip town and you can rail against me tomorrow in that case?
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Post Post #2552 (ISO) » Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:13 am

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Why do you care? I’m voting who you SR. If you do strongly believe this is correct, my reasoning for voting there is irrelevant. At worst I’m bussing my buddy.
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Post Post #2553 (ISO) » Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:17 am

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I want you on record preflip with your reasoning.
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Post Post #2554 (ISO) » Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:18 am

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In post 2550, VP Baltar wrote:But my only hard towns are Datisi and momrangal.
I thought those were your lockTowns. I had RLotus as your “hardTown” after , and after you interacted with them in a completely different way.
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Post Post #2555 (ISO) » Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:20 am

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In post 2553, VP Baltar wrote:I want you on record preflip with your reasoning.
I’m sheeping Datisi. Your post stating that you don’t owe me any respect sapped any motivation I had for finishing even re-reading the game or even caring what happens anymore. If this is right, I can stop using my brain or spend time working through scenarios and just rely on you two.
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Post Post #2556 (ISO) » Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:29 am

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In post 2554, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 2550, VP Baltar wrote:But my only hard towns are Datisi and momrangal.
I thought those were your lockTowns. I had RLotus as your “hardTown” after , and after you interacted with them in a completely different way.
That post definitely shifted my perspective on lotus. I'm not saying that's wrong. I'm just saying I never called him hardtown.

That feels like your assumption, not my statement.
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Post Post #2557 (ISO) » Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:05 am

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VOTE: andres
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Post Post #2558 (ISO) » Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:06 am

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When/why did cookie monster claim?

Am I forever gonna be in catch up mode x.x
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Post Post #2559 (ISO) » Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:12 am

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In post 2558, Momrangal wrote:When/why did cookie monster claim?

Am I forever gonna be in catch up mode x.x
Cookie claimed largely unprovoked. Who knows what was real/fake there. We decided just to leave it for now
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Post Post #2560 (ISO) » Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:13 am

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literally nobody knows.

momrangal, could you vote midway? i saw he's also really low on your list, we already have a vt claim there, and i really don't wanna be running up *more* people at this hour.
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Post Post #2561 (ISO) » Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:30 am

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i keep coming online and then shit blows up at work, and this thread grows longer

VOTE: midway
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Post Post #2562 (ISO) » Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:35 am

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In post 2531, Andresvmb wrote:I will grant you - there’s Scum on one side of that argument. So what if some of the players are part of the Scum Team, and are making reasonably sounding arguments against a player that just lashes out like VPB has in response to pressure? But then why did almost all of them backtrack? That’s quite astounding to me.
i mean, i don't have much more to tell you than "i don't know". things sometimes don't make sense. like literally less than a week ago i lost a game where 2/3 scum were nothing slots and the day 1 yeet was 7 towns voting for town and the whole game was confusing and a garbage fire. maybe they backtracked because they realized they cannot argue against baltar.

is midway saying that baltar's wagon analysis post is what made him reconsider bc it was trying too hard to be from scum...? but that was posted before he originally voted??
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In post 2521, Datisi wrote:i don't know. maybe they're among the lurkers, it's hard to tell with so many inactives.
I’ve been thinking about this. Who do we have as lurkers this game? I’m guessing Dunn, Duchess/Cookie Monster, and Elements/DGB, right? To end D1, Elements was voting RLotus, Duchess had a vote that had been sitting on VPB for a long time (and they were getting replaced), and Dunn was voting midwaybear. It could very well be that midwaybear is Scum with two of those, and they are the only Scum on the Italiano wagon. That’s not something I’m willing to rule out. But I have already mentioned that I think Cookie Monster is Town and why for instance. Are we looking at a {Dunn, midwaybear, DGB} Scum Team? Possibly? It seems a bit far fetched no?
this again boils down to "fuck preflip". but (1) you think cookie monster is town, and i'm willing to let the claim sit for now because if she's really a doc, i don't wanna be doing scum's job for them and yeeting her when they might shoot her, but i'm far from convinced and (2) scum isn't always obvious. you've said it yourself, the scum team is rarely utterly incompetent. distancing and bussing is a thing. i (and probably a lot of other players here too) cannot effectively point that out early. like i've successfully called out a bussing vote before either flipped once(!!) in my almost two years of playing, and that was because both scum were potatoes. (maybe i'm just a shit player though. that's always a possibility.)

off the top of my head, while i have been very town on battle mage, momrangal could use a revisit. also i'd reread how strong was max's push on midway really. green's intent could maybe be bussing since he did have suspicions on midway earlier but didn't really vote him (iirc, which i might not even be). that'd mean midway was bussing green earlier, and like i'm *not* saying that's what happened, i'm illustrating a point that i don't think that slots in the game, at this stage, can be solved by trying to galaxy brain catch the whole scumteam.
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post Post #2563 (ISO) » Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:39 am

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I would rather go after actual scum reads but I have zero qualms.

Why are we rushing? When's deadline?

Also dbg is town which is fantastic
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Post Post #2564 (ISO) » Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:40 am

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deadline is like 2 days i think. we're not rushing necessarily but i'm getting sick of this day and i've been told i'm not a fun person when i'm moody.

i think i left you a q at some point, also why is dgb town?
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Post Post #2565 (ISO) » Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:43 am

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In post 2190, Datisi wrote:@momrangal, can you tl;dr me on your reads on dunn, me, and andres?
in reference to
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Post Post #2566 (ISO) » Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:10 am

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Official Vote Count 2.06


EliminationWith 11 votes in play, it takes 6 to eliminate someone.

midwaybear (5): VP Baltar, Datisi, Dunnstral, Andresvmb, Green Crayons
Dunnstral (2): RLotus, maxwell
Andresvmb (1): Momrangal
VP Baltar (1): DrippingGoofball
Cookie Monster (1): Cookie Monster


Not Voting
(1): midwaybear

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Post Post #2567 (ISO) » Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:38 am

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In post 2563, Momrangal wrote:I would rather go after actual scum reads but I have zero qualms.

Why are we rushing? When's deadline?

Also dbg is town which is fantastic
So why am I Scum Mom? I haven’t seen an explanation from you yet.
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Post Post #2568 (ISO) » Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:58 am

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Her entrance.

Dbg has an agenda while scum and it gets pretty obvious pretty quickly

VOTE: midway
Andre's is the most difficult to really explain at the moment but alot of it has to do the with the way he is pushing slots, and how he is making his reads. I find it extremely unlikely that you claim neighborized the way you did. As a scum neighbor, what is generally the bigger priority is to pocket the said neighbors. I feel like, if you were going to pocket green, you would have claimed to be neighborized sooner way before he was pressured to out who he neighborized.

Dunn is also largely tone. The pushes on him are also pretty shitty and, as scum I think there would be far more resistance to his push and it really isn't there. Dunn is someone who is easy to eliminate as town because of his personality. I really liked the way he knocked he down a peg without discrediting me. The sarcasm he presents in his posts and the way he approaches the game all ring genuine. He isn't pushing anyone in bad faith, his points and arguments are solid, valid and all looks like they are coming from a town perspective
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Post Post #2569 (ISO) » Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:04 pm

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In post 2568, Momrangal wrote:As a scum neighbor, what is generally the bigger priority is to pocket the said neighbors. I feel like, if you were going to pocket green, you would have claimed to be neighborized sooner way before he was pressured to out who he neighborized.
Wait, what? I never claimed to be neighborized.
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Post Post #2570 (ISO) » Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:06 pm

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In post 2568, Momrangal wrote:Andre's is the most difficult to really explain at the moment but alot of it has to do the with the way he is pushing slots, and how he is making his reads.
And what is this incoherent mumbo jumbo? How I’m making my reads? And how is that, in your estimation?
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Post Post #2571 (ISO) » Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:13 pm

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i believe that was an explanation for her read on me, not you.

i'd definitely like an elaboration on that andres read though, and an answer to whether you read me in any way by anything else.
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Post Post #2572 (ISO) » Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:21 pm

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Official Vote Count 2.07


EliminationWith 11 votes in play, it takes 6 to eliminate someone.

midwaybear (6): VP Baltar, Datisi, Dunnstral, Andresvmb, Green Crayons, Momrangal <-- EXECUTED
Dunnstral (2): RLotus, maxwell
VP Baltar (1): DrippingGoofball
Cookie Monster (1): Cookie Monster


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(1): midwaybear

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Post Post #2573 (ISO) » Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:26 pm

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midwaybear was executed! He was a...


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Vanilla Townie


Night 2 begins! It will end in (expired on 2021-03-17 19:25:57). PM me your night actions! Also, let me know if you want a fast night.
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Post Post #2574 (ISO) » Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:39 pm

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Cookie Monster was killed! They were a:


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Town Loyal Roaming Doctor


Day 3 has begun.

Official Vote Count 3.00
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EliminationWith 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to eliminate someone.

maxwell(0):
Green Crayons (0):
Momrangal (0):
Andresvmb (0):
DrippingGoofball (0):
VP Baltar (0):
Datisi (0):
Dunnstral (0):
RLotus (0):

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(9): maxwell, Green Crayons, Momrangal, Andresvmb, DrippingGoofball, VP Baltar ,Datisi, Dunnstral, RLotus

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