Two Day Penultimate Mafia (Abandoned)

DkKoba · Post Post #350 (ISO) » Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:20 pm

In post 345, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 341, Toxic 1v1er wrote:Oh, we have 14 days lol

I should relax
apathy, the deadline, the fact scum have 0 incentive to bus, and the fact that we autolose at deadline should light a fire under our collective butts.

Ideally I want this elim done before we get anywhere close to the deadline

deadline compromises rarely work out well esp since scum have 0 incentive to compromise with us.

ill take this as confirmation that pooky is scum

DkKoba · Post Post #351 (ISO) » Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:20 pm

Y u tryna rush so badly?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #352 (ISO) » Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:28 pm

do you have a reading comprehension problem

DkKoba · Post Post #353 (ISO) » Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:28 pm

yes i do

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #354 (ISO) » Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:29 pm

DkKoba · Post Post #355 (ISO) » Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:29 pm

i would be like 30% better at this game if i didnt have one ):

WhemeStar · Post Post #356 (ISO) » Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:59 pm

In post 347, Inser Cool Name Here wrote:-I was wrong. Its actually 2 days. I was thinking we had an extra day for some reason.

if Mastina is town she should be town reading me.....I am 90% sure Wheme drew town this game as well . I cannot help but to think Pooky drew scum again but I am not sure.
Mastina is a mix bag. There is some townie stuff but there is a few thing that is making me doubt.

who is this alt account and why are they metaing

Dunnstral · Post Post #357 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:21 am

In post 351, DkKoba wrote:Y u tryna rush so badly?

I've figured it all out... Pooky and Morph cats are actually both FBI agents together; Pooky is pushing Morph so poorly that it actually results in people not wanting to get Morph at all. All the while people call pooky town for pretty much no reason at all, or just for pushing one thing.

I did it guys. Alright, let's get him out of here.

VOTE: PookyTheMagicalBear

Inser Cool Name Here · Post Post #358 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:42 am

Insert Cool Name Here=FuzzyLogic

Agreed rushing is bad here..... giving the set up we should use ever second to our advantage to catch scum .

Dunstrual- Why would scum buss here since its a dangerous gambit? Also your theoryabout Morph pushing does not compute? Why would pushing some make them less likely to be
voted on. I can see if maybe the evidence do not seem to be there for town to ignore the push . Morph is not exactly being widely scumread as far as cab tell. Trying to figure out how you are getting 2+2= 5 here

Inser Cool Name Here · Post Post #359 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:48 am

Okay Pooky is the pusher and not Morph. Sorry, still half asleep. Still why would Pooky push their scum partner when their is no advantage to it. They are getting scum read. Pooky pushing their scum partner has zero
upshot atm. I just do not see bussing happening here. Maybe you can you explain better why scum would buss given the set up

Inser Cool Name Here · Post Post #360 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:48 am

Okay Pooky is the pusher and not Morph. Sorry, still half asleep. Still why would Pooky push their scum partner when their is no advantage to it. They are getting scum read. Pooky pushing their scum partner has zero
upshot atm. I just do not see bussing happening here. Maybe you can you explain better why scum would buss given the set up

Salsabil Faria · Post Post #361 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:48 am

In post 234, Momrangal wrote:
In post 231, Salsabil Faria wrote:
@WhemeStar
, what do you think about
DkKoba
vs
Infinity 324
, specially on page 8 and 9? And I never played with
DkKoba
before so don't know if the
overreaction
thing is NAI for them. I find their behavior scummy at some extent so far.
I don't get the feels that it's an overreaction not entirely sure you do.

The way you're talking here feels like you visited in my head before posting

Different people see things differently, not a big deal. You are familiar with

DkKoba

, so you know they are emotional, so their reactions are bound to feel normal to you. But I don't know them. If I find their reactions somewhat over for this, it shouldn't be that surprising/weird/scummy.

In post 234, Momrangal wrote:I get the feeling that you're picking up anything you can find that can be the slightest bit scummy and inflating it

I'm not doing this, but you're doing this with me here.

In post 236, Profgessor Emotion wrote:
In post 177, DkKoba wrote:i dont understand u profgessor
In general, in most games, you should have DOUBLE THE FBI in terms of non-FBI reads, at a MINIMUM. As in, in a mini with 3 FBI, you should have a MINIMUM of 6 non-FBI reads on D1. Ideally, it's higher, in the 8-10 range, especially in a setup like this, but if you don't have at least 5-7 non-FBI reads then your reads are explicitly going to be utter shit because there's 10 non-FBI in the game and if you can't read at least half of the players alive as non-FBI, you're basically worthless.

A bit of exaggeration ig? You can be wrong with your FBI|Mafia (ratio) read list but not worthless

In post 237, Profgessor Emotion wrote:
In post 183, Salsabil Faria wrote:
Reasons for all the reads and the vote?
I've literally never seen DKKoba be scummier than they've been in this game. The opening post of theirs was immediately scum already enough on its own, but then to top it off, the image posted was both utterly hilarious and also a very very apt, incredibly unlikely to come from town, perfect encapsulation of things in a way that I can't see town having made, it could only have come from scum.

Are you

Momrangal

??? Btw, can you use signatures under each of your posts, please? It's really confusing and somewhat irritating.

In post 237, Profgessor Emotion wrote: Infinity is more or less a gut-best-I-can-do-in-RVS vote. I townread the slot slightly, but I don't have much in the way of tangible proof that they're town, it's just that vibecheck wise they seem like one of the slots most off of the vibe which makes me lean towards them being town.

Oh, now I understand what did you mean by townreading

Infinity 324

(or scumreading

DkKoba

) and vote them for it. So, you're

mastina

, right? See it's very hard for the players who relatively new + don't know all of you

Please, use signature, please

Only one of you can use signature, the other one doesn't need to do that.

In post 237, Profgessor Emotion wrote:Dunnstral hasn't posted yet. When Dunn doesn't post it makes me worried that he's town since he does tend to lurk as town; if he posts up a storm, it becomes far more likely he's scum (can say this safely since he's unlikely to read this message before posting and even were he, he already knows I use this metric on him anyway), but since he hasn't done so yet, de facto townread.

This post smells TMI tbh.

In post 241, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:this game is going to be super confusing if we keep interchanging what scum and town means

so lets just get our terminology straight

scum = fbi = evil bad guys out to ruin my daughter ydra's wedding
town = mafia = great buddies of mine who are here to ask me favors cuz I can't say no

ok?

No? FBI= town; Mafia=scum; or we can use FBI/Mafia instead of town/scum?

In post 243, Profgessor Emotion wrote:
In post 231, Salsabil Faria wrote:
@WhemeStar
, what do you think about
DkKoba
vs
Infinity 324
, specially on page 8 and 9? And I never played with
DkKoba
before so don't know if the
overreaction
thing is NAI for them. I find their behavior scummy at some extent so far.
I'm liking this content more tho and given that I am in a desperate need of more scumreads, sure, I'll scumbin this slot. <3

By scummy I actually meant FBI there

I'm going to use FBI/Mafia term in the rest of the game starting now. In my previous posts, where I used scum, I meant FBI, and where I used town, meant Mafia. Sorry for the inconvenience

Spoiler: Hydras

Dunnstral · Post Post #362 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:49 am

Pooky's push is so bad that it will never result in an elimination, and people are going to want to not elim Morph to avoid Pooky pushing the plan, alongside general injustice and a tendency to rebel.

Inser Cool Name Here · Post Post #363 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:56 am

@ Dunnstral -Have you read the set up? It does not seem like you have. If you think town will go without killing someone today then you are wrong as MS games have a high tendency for flash wagons.

Salsabil Faria · Post Post #364 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 3:10 am

In post 254, Inser Cool Name Here wrote:.Profgessor Emotion seems off this game. Their reads seems somewhat forced and post 243 and her interaction with DKoba seems weird for someone scum reading her. I think I will ride this merry go round and see where it takes me

VOTE: Profgessor Emotion

Yeah, I agree with you on them but

Dunnstral

was actually lurking that time, not sure about him yet. Also never played with

mastina

before, does she always sort players like the way she is doing here?

In post 260, Infinity 324 wrote:Mastina this town/scum thing is getting confusing

mastina

's town=FBI and scum=Mafia.

In post 261, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
2) Town Leadership.

Yup that's right we need a town leader we can all trust in to STRIKE TRUE and crush the baddies.

One shot, one kill.

That's why I want to hand the BURDEN OF PROFICIENCY to Cabd.

Cuz he's supposed to be like SUPER FUCKING GOOD at killing bad guys.

Let him ask whatever questions he wants.

Let him turn over any leaves he wants.

End of the day, Cabd will pick a person and that person will die.

Tommorrow...

Today we kill Cabd,

Why?

because it's the only way to make sure burden of proficiency actually gets followed.

AND WITH HIS DEATH

we will have guidance for tommorrow.

A beautiful dawn in which we will murderate whoever he picks.

Not agreeing with you here. Not only you want all the Mafias to trust

Cabd

(from

morph the cat

), for doing so Mafias have to trust you first. 2 pretty big things to consider, if we (Mafias) screwed up on this, the game will be over for us. Not worth it.

In post 262, Infinity 324 wrote: Mastina please call FBI scum and mafia town. Thanks

Uhu! We should go with the game theme. Either FBI/Mafia instead of town/scum or FBI=town and Mafia=scum.

In post 263, Infinity 324 wrote:She's town though I think

Why? By town you meant Mafia?

In post 269, WhemeStar wrote:I think Dunnstral is town

Why? By town you meant Mafia?

WhemeStar · Post Post #365 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 3:21 am

For future disclaimer when I say town I mean majority and when I say mafia I mean minority. Also insert cool name is town

Salsabil Faria · Post Post #366 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 3:35 am

Spoiler:

Forget to add this important part:

Spoiler: Hydras

Salsabil Faria · Post Post #367 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 3:49 am

In post 281, morph the cat wrote:
In post 279, DkKoba wrote:I watched cabd not nail scum d1

Are you

Cabd

? You don't like

DkKoba

's comment because you can nail FBI in Day 1 here?

In post 284, DkKoba wrote:idk if thats like signifying like a deepwolf team or what but im just uneasy?

Deepwolf team as in

morph the cat

and

PookyTheMagicalBear

? I'm getting weird vibes from their conversation also. Because of the

buss-vote

thing, I can't see both of them as FBI vs FBI though, maybe

PookyTheMagicalBear

is an FBI here who are trying to occur a miselimination?

In post 289, DkKoba wrote:
In post 287, morph the cat wrote:There are so many problems with this, but probably the biggest one is that neither of us are going to get hopped up on pain meds for a mafia game.

there was this game a long time ago, right after site chat was installed where some of us played a chat mafia game, and Cabd and GiF decided to do exactly this. they ran me up to E-1, got my reads, and then elimmed me. and proceeded to elim through the bottom of my reads list. I was not a happy camper.

It worked. barely

but more importantly it was at most a 20 minute time investment for the player list. It was more a meme than a game.

this plan takes agency away from everyone but us. and it puts an incredible, un-fun burden on us to get it right in the HOPES that the rest of not-FBI listen to us after we're dead. And we won't even know if we want to be sheeped in the first place.

you KNOW that our reads usually aren't perfect. you've played enough with both of us to be fully aware of that.

If I'd had any idea that this game could devolve into such a crapshoot I wouldn't have joined. I won't replace out, but I will have a huge chip on my shoulder about cooperating if this player list is lazy enough to abdicate your agency to us.
i dont like this bc its like eh but also like this is pretty solidly town

Town as in Mafia?

In post 299, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:what's the right amount of pressure and BoP to put on Cabd?

I'm not sitting around and waiting for Cabd to manipulate the game state to the point where he's got enough townies bent around his fingers where it's impossible us to get a scumelim ala Tenet.

I ain't down for that slow agonizing death.

and considering how hard you got pocketed by him in Tenet I don't really think you have the expertise to tell me how much pressure is the right amount to apply to him.

Tell me one thing, how you are

so sure

that

morph the cat

are a FBI here if you're a Mafia??

Spoiler: Hydras

Infinity 324 · Post Post #368 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 3:54 am

In post 364, Salsabil Faria wrote:Why? By town you meant Mafia?

Yes town means mafia and scum means FBI for me.

This is kind of a shitty answer, but I think profgessor are town because mastina is passionate and seems to believe in her reads.

Salsabil Faria · Post Post #369 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:10 am

In post 302, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:uh they could also just be scum dude

What do think about

Profgessor Emotion

hydra?

In post 311, Inser Cool Name Here wrote:1) if Cabd is town it doesnt mean he will catch scum day one. They could be having an off day and not be playing at the ultimate level
2) Cabd could accidently cause a mislynch as town. If we kill them then we are only have one shot left
3) I do not like the idea of a leader having total control. Its to risky and dangerous especially in a setup like this
D) You could be scum and setting up for the fall.

Second this.

In post 313, Ydrasse wrote:there are like 2 people here who could do it

i haven't given much to go on though, haven't really felt this game much

I forgot that you're also in the game lol.

In post 314, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 309, DkKoba wrote:do you scumread morph?
yea

1) initial reaction was stilted - felt like they were discussing in hydra best way to react instead of just reacting naturally - implies guilty mindset - both players are more than capable of responding naturally to me without needing to consult the other.

2) mostly reactive posting - very little pro-active scum hunting.

3) didn't have enthusiastic response to being BoP'd - felt like they immediately went to the excuses I'd expect scum!them to go to.

4) victimization mindset / threats.

5) too fast to townread me - feels more like attempt to diffuse suspicion than actual alignment sorting - cabd/fiery both know I am very capable of hyper-aggression immediately from start of game.

Don't know what to feel about this yet. Meta-talk confuses me.

In post 315, Ydrasse wrote:honestly if i was town and got bop'd i'd be like "nah no thanks" bc picking wrong and that leading into an elim tomorrow would feel real bad

that being said i havent even read those excuses you speak of

By town, you meant Mafia?

In post 324, Toxic 1v1er wrote:
In post 223, Profgessor Emotion wrote:Infinity?town? I don't like that defeatist attitude.
I like it actually, only having two opportunities to launch an agent is a daunting prospect for mafia. I think it's fine.

Don't understand this. Can you explain more?

Infinity 324

is in my null list btw.

Spoiler: Hydras

Salsabil Faria · Post Post #370 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:27 am

In post 326, Toxic 1v1er wrote:Better plan; someone gets a good agentread and cases that read, and then we all sheep it. This means we're trusting the read of one person who thinks they have an agent pinned, and not all just voting whatever which makes it difficult to vote an agent out when there's no bussing.

It also means we give an opportunity to any of the strong mafia players in this game to find the feds, and not just Cabd and Fiery.

Hmmm.... not bad if?

In post 330, Toxic 1v1er wrote:Salsa... seems good. She's a relatively new player and she's constantly putting herself out there and arguing things, it'd take some confidence to play the way she is as an agent in a setup like this from the getgo

So you read me as FBI or Mafia?

In post 332, WhemeStar wrote:i nominate myself for town leader instead of cabd.

You need to prove first that you are a Mafia.

In post 349, Inser Cool Name Here wrote:I think atleast one agent is sitting back is sitting back and not doing very much.

Hmm, possible. Between

Ydrasse

and

Dunnstral

so far? Not sure about

Infinity 324

or

WhemeStar

also.

Spoiler: Hydras

Salsabil Faria · Post Post #371 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:40 am

Well, so far, my read list looks like this:

Mafia-read:

Inser Cool Name Here

,

Toxic 1v1er

Mafia-lean:

morph the cat

,

DkKoba

(

)

UNVOTE: DkKoba

Null:

Ydrasse

,

Infinity 324

,

Dunnstral

,

WhemeStar

FBI-read:

PookyTheMagicalBear

FBI-lean:

Profgessor Emotion

(

)

VOTE: PookyTheMagicalBear

Spoiler: Hydras

Infinity 324 · Post Post #372 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:41 am

Why do you TR insert?

WhemeStar · Post Post #373 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:44 am

Who knew the mechanic to generate most confusion is just flipping town and scum roles

Salsabil Faria · Post Post #374 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 5:05 am

In post 372, Infinity 324 wrote:Why do you TR insert?

Seems townie (Mafia) to me, like his thought process, match with me, I think I mentioned on my wall posts.