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[Datisi]

ico are you around? we need to talk

can you tell me your opinion on andres' 2296 and my 2649

[Iconeum]

i'm lurking and waiting for interaction yes

[Datisi]

i'm about to have another coffee, you wanna interaction?

[Iconeum]

yes

but i'm having trouble reading those posts as they are bigger brain then what i prefer

[Iconeum]

i'll reread EoD because it happened in vla and i skimmed through it instead of properly reading

[Datisi]

ok let's break it down then
we're at this vc viewtopic.php?p=12690126#p12690126
llama and infinity are leading wagons, with infinity probably being the main one / the one that will go through

why is there suddenly a spike on rathe? and look at this
infinity wagon was {andre, datisi, luca, umlaut, ico}
rathe wagon was {infinity, llama, s_s, outworld,

luca

,

datisi

, anya, umlaut, samantha}

up until luca, there is *no overlap* between the infinity voters and the rathe voters.

the main question here is

why?

[Iconeum]

i know that the wagon changed *so* many times during the last day or 2 and even more during the final hours, that it can't possibly be all scum-driven right?

[Datisi]

hold on i'm working out a post in my head, give me a bit

[Iconeum]

infinity was the first one to disengage the llama wagon and onto Rathe

which would be a ballsy play if scum, because you are deflating your main option of not being yeeted

town might be more inclined to do so, being less survivalistic

could be a scum yolo last ditch effort i dunno

[Iconeum]

it was a naked vote as well

[Iconeum]

then llama is the second vote

so you have both main wagonees joining forces on rathe...

[Iconeum]

you thinking those were scum/scum wagons?

[Datisi]

ok so my ramble on "why isn't infinity dead"?

let's assume infinity town. why isn't she dead? why didn't scum push her through?

you could argue "well bc scum was already on her" but i don't think that's right. who was on her, andre/me/luca/umlaut/ico. like out of those names, *maybe* umlaut is scum i feel. i don't think this is right.

so then what? there was a town!driven wagon on town!infinity, and then there was *another* town!driven wagon on rathe? for absolutely no reason? and scum was doing... *nothing*? lol. people that weren't on neither infinity nor rathe are... koto and rathe himself. i don't think this is likely either.

you could argue that both wagons were town-driven, and scum didn't care which one they got on. but late-joiners to rathe were outworld and anya, neither of who were on the infinity wagon. those didn't care to act earlier. scum who doesn't care which one goes through would probably vote infinity earlier on.

and like, i wanna compare this situation to the italiano wagon in 2195. it was day one, short amount of time till deadline, italiano was town, on some ~5 votes. the wagon was *relatively* pure (i was the only scum hardpushing him). do you know what my scumbuddies were doing? they were sitting on their asses doing absolutely nothing and pretending that italiano didn't exist. because they knew town will be forced into that yeet anyway, since short on time etc. and i feel like that rule *could* be generalized here, because why would scum be rushing to get onto a wagon? they don't have to. let town destroy themselves. so why was there *such* a goddamn rush to get rathe yeeted?

[Datisi]

this weird blocc of infinity/outworld/llama and maybe s_s and umlaut who seem to like. consistently townread each other

like. i have a feeling eithe ri have this game completely ass-backwards or this pools is guaranteed i have multiple scum in it. because frankly, i find it very concerning these people all just so happen to be town on like, most if not all other members of this blocc?

[Luca Blight]

I've been Tr'ing some of Infinity's recent play but I agree it looks a little sketch

I could see a team being something like Infinity/Outworld/Anya

[Datisi]

i have a feeling either i have this game completely ass-backwards or this pools is guaranteed to have multiple scum in it.

i cannot spell today

[Datisi]

pool*
sigh

infinity/outworld would also fit my tinfoil of "outowrorld is scum panic-lurking when his buddy(ies) were being wagoned but is right there when rathe needs support to die"

[Luca Blight]

That reminds me that I got s/s vibes from Infinity/Anya early D1

I hope outworlder doesn't fall behind this game, I want to play with him. So I'm gonna stop posting for a bit.

VOTE: Infinity

why do you think he could fall behind? already tired and want to take a break???

I don’t know why but I got an s/s vibe from this

[Datisi]

you thinking those were scum/scum wagons?

i did think llama/infinity interactions were clearing but i genuinely would not be surprised if this were the case.

[Iconeum]

this weird blocc of infinity/outworld/llama and maybe s_s and umlaut who seem to like. consistently townread each other

like. i have a feeling eithe ri have this game completely ass-backwards or this pools is guaranteed i have multiple scum in it. because frankly, i find it very concerning these people all just so happen to be town on like, most if not all other members of this blocc?

i mean, if you take away my townreads this is pretty close to my PoE

[Datisi]

why was andres silenced?

you can argue it was to frame infinity but why is literally nobody looking in her direction then?

[Luca Blight]

This is one of the pingiest posts of the game for me

I haven't read but I'm impressed by people's ability to vote scum

Intent to hammer

[Datisi]

this weird blocc of infinity/outworld/llama and maybe s_s and umlaut who seem to like. consistently townread each other

like. i have a feeling eithe ri have this game completely ass-backwards or this pools is guaranteed i have multiple scum in it. because frankly, i find it very concerning these people all just so happen to be town on like, most if not all other members of this blocc?

i mean, if you take away my townreads this is pretty close to my PoE

is this saying that you have multiple townreads in this pool, or that you agree with those slots being low-ish/poe?

[Iconeum]

this weird blocc of infinity/outworld/llama and maybe s_s and umlaut who seem to like. consistently townread each other

like. i have a feeling eithe ri have this game completely ass-backwards or this pools is guaranteed i have multiple scum in it. because frankly, i find it very concerning these people all just so happen to be town on like, most if not all other members of this blocc?

i mean, if you take away my townreads this is pretty close to my PoE

is this saying that you have multiple townreads in this pool, or that you agree with those slots being low-ish/poe?

i do not have multiple townreads in that pool
at this point only llama has improved to a slight townlean and outworld has dropped from day 1

[Datisi]

if i were any braver i'd say all scum is in {infinity, outworld, anya, llama} but like. eh.