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Post Post #2825 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:20 am

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In post 2779, Anya wrote:Infinity's vote is bare and vulnerable though like she has no reason to think anyone's gonna sheep that which is towny when she's the one at stake

alpaca is the one that makes it a wagon and more of a possibility
Check it out. Instead of responding to points now Anya is intentionally misrepresenting things in order to try and justify a vote by ignoring that immediately before what is being referenced I explicitly stated I would vote anyone not OW, Infinity or myself. This is scum. Whole game is active lurking. Very low content, very high noise. Gets called on making very convenient and questionable moves that get a TPR killed day one, and goes back to just messing around trying to be friends to players instead of trying to solve the game.

This type of play works for scum because it gets them ignored the entire time, just like it is here. It will slip by as long as you let it, and we need to stop letting it. There is no way that town-Anya who has been pretty dead set in a few reads sees the wagons develop the way they did D1, votes for Rathe, immediately reacts as if he was confirmed town pre-flip, and then the next day blames the exact same player she was calling scum D1 (and sheeped) for the wagon.

Needs to go now. All of her D1 moves near the end make no logical sense and fly directly in the face of everything she had been doing then starts calling the rest of the wagon scum.
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Post Post #2826 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:23 am

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I'll compromise on anya for sure
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Post Post #2827 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:51 am

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so hurtful

i don't know how to defend myself i'm like a dragon without scales
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Post Post #2828 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:59 am

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I don't know if this is useful but I spent a whole bunch of time putting it together so I'll be damned if I don't post it:

Day 1 vote progressions

  • Andresvmb
    :
    Datisi () → samantha97 () → Luca Blight () → Iconeum () → OutWorldER () → Infinity 324 ()

    OutWorldER:
    Anya () →
    Rathe
    () → samantha97 () → Datisi () → samantha97 () → Umlaut () → esotericzoomer () → samantha97 () →
    Rathe
    ()

    Umlaut:
    samantha97 () → Iconeum () → Infinity 324 () →
    Rathe
    () → Infinity 324 () →
    Rathe
    ()

    LlamaFluff:
    Anya () → unvote () → Iconeum () → unvote () → samantha97 () →
    Rathe
    ()

    Iconeum:
    Datisi () → Anya () →
    Rathe
    () → Umlaut () →
    Andresvmb
    () → Umlaut () → Luca Blight () → esotericzoomer () → Infinity 324 () → LlamaFluff () → Infinity 324 ()

    Datisi:
    Luca Blight () → samantha97 () → Umlaut () → OutWorldER () → Infinity 324 () → esotericzoomer () → OutWorldER () → Infinity 324 () → LlamaFluff () → Infinity 324 () →
    Rathe
    () → OutWorldER () →
    Rathe
    () → OutWorldER ()

    Anya:
    Datisi () → Anya () → Luca Blight () → OutWorldER () → Luca Blight () → LlamaFluff () → Luca Blight () → Infinity 324 () → Momrangal () → Iconeum () → samantha97 () → Luca Blight () → samantha97 () → OutWorldER () → Iconeum () → OutWorldER () → Datisi () → OutWorldER () → OutWorldER () → Umlaut () → Umlaut () → Luca Blight () → esotericzoomer () →
    Rathe
    () → OutWorldER () →
    Rathe
    () → Infinity 324 () → esotericzoomer () → Infinity 324 () → LlamaFluff () →
    Rathe
    ()

    Luca Blight:
    Datisi () → OutWorldER () → Datisi () → LlamaFluff () → Infinity 324 () →
    Rathe
    () → OutWorldER ()

    esotericzoomer / Something_Smart:
    Infinity 324 () → Iconeum () → OutWorldER () → Iconeum () → OutWorldER () →
    Rathe
    ()

    samantha97:
    Datisi () →
    Rathe
    () → Iconeum () → OutWorldER () → Datisi () → Koto () → OutWorldER () →
    Rathe
    ()

    Infinity 324:
    Luca Blight () → LlamaFluff () → Luca Blight () → samantha97 () → Umlaut () → LlamaFluff () → Umlaut () → esotericzoomer () → unvote () → Datisi () → LlamaFluff () →
    Rathe
    ()

    Rathe
    :
    LlamaFluff () → samantha97 () → Umlaut () → LlamaFluff ()

    Momrangal / Koto:
    Datisi () →
    Andresvmb
    () → Umlaut () → Datisi () → Umlaut () → LlamaFluff () → unvote () → LlamaFluff ()
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Post Post #2829 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:03 pm

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  1. Looking at Datisi's end-of-day behavior jumping between the wagons I'm fairly confident he's town who genuinely just wanted to cooperate on getting a launch through; on the off-chance he's not, OW is
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  2. What in the world was Anya even doing
  3. It's not a list without three things
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Post Post #2830 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:05 pm

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I can’t say I find it particularly useful, but I appreciate the effort
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Post Post #2831 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:12 pm

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In post 2818, Datisi wrote:
In post 2676, Datisi wrote:
In post 2531, OutWorldER wrote:My limpool for today is {Samantha, S_S, Umlaut} in order of preference. Sam and S_S for reasons already stated and Umlaut because my TR's are on that wagon and I'm mostly null on that slot.
i'm rereading and again. *how* is this something that comes from a town mindset. like the main driver of the umlaut wagon is his strongest scumread. how is this anything other than an ass-pull??
can literally *anyone* please acknowledge this post and tell me their opinion on it
I think that mindset is fine from the perspective that a) he could be wrong about his biggest SR or b) bussing/distancing is a thing and maybe c) wanting to create unity with his townreads
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Post Post #2832 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:13 pm

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In post 2827, Anya wrote:so hurtful

i don't know how to defend myself i'm like a dragon without scales
Why did you vote Rathe? Why did you not care about the composition of the wagon given other reads?
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Post Post #2833 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:15 pm

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Datisi, how can I interest you in an Anya vote?
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Post Post #2834 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:49 pm

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I am interested in a vote count
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Post Post #2835 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:35 pm

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Is this a scum-driven effort to save Outworld?

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In post 2138, Luca Blight wrote:You know what, we’ve screwed this by waiting too long

I don’t want to lim someone without a claim D1

VOTE: Outworld

Let’s just do this. We have a lot of info from today anyway
In post 2147, samantha97 wrote:VOTE: outworlder
In post 2149, Datisi wrote:
In post 2146, LlamaFluff wrote:Also the "Maybe Rathe wont be around" argument isnt strong. He has posted between current time and deadline for five straight real life days if my count is right (for me going back to Sunday evening with deadline being near midnight this Friday)
he claims pr with like one hour to deadline

what do

no yeet lol

VOTE: outworld

someone fucking kill me i can't sleep this game is giving me anxiety
In post 2154, Anya wrote:VOTE: Rathe

i got impatient

i can switch to bunny later if needed i'll be around
In post 2157, Umlaut wrote:I'm counting Rathe at 5, Infinity and OW both at 3, Llama at 2.

VOTE: Rathe
That's -1
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Post Post #2836 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:46 pm

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I get the feeling Llama/Umlaut are of the same alignment

There was no resistance to either's lim apart from each other
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Post Post #2837 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:51 pm

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Anya puts Outworld to E-1 on the back of my case, and straight away unvotes and switches to Rathe following the VT claim
In post 1287, Anya wrote:who is even wolf in this game Infinity

why is the bunny claiming vanilla town and posting what looks like a final post like he doesn't care if he dies

he's supposed to be wolf
In post 1289, Anya wrote:VOTE: Rathe

can you also give me a townread while you're at it bunny
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Post Post #2838 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:53 pm

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Umlaut/Outworld as partners also makes a lot of sense, given how Umlaut has continuously tried to steer away from Outworld's lim despite not particularly TR'ing him
In post 1291, Umlaut wrote:
In post 1231, Datisi wrote:umlaut why aren't you voting anyone
Not keen on the OutworldER wagon and didn't see a serious alternative (other than myself, which I'm also not so keen on)

I still don't, but on a hunch I'm going to
VOTE: Infinity

They've established a pattern, with Llama and with me, of quietly supporting wagons while inviting others to take responsibility for them, and I don't like it. Want to get more attention on this.
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Post Post #2839 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:55 pm

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In post 1295, Anya wrote:ok i'm in Luca

VOTE: Infinity
I don't get why she said 'I'm in Luca' here when I was still pursuing an Outworld lim at this time
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Post Post #2840 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:59 pm

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Outworld's posts were really ineffectual, but after I prodded him for more he finally delivered a decent post in

but the problem is these 'decent' posts have been few and far between. Scum can fake stuff like that when the absolutely need to, but it's effort to do it consistently, and consistency is seriously lacking from Outworld this game

And bear in mind I read Outworld as 'obvtown' in the game we were in together last. He wasn't high activity there either but his posts were so much better generally.
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Post Post #2841 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:05 pm

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I kind of feel like Umlaut is only scum here if the team is exactly something like {Umlaut, Outworld, Llama/Anya}
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Post Post #2842 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:11 pm

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I think Outworld/Anya are the best bet of actually hitting scum today

VOTE: Anya
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Post Post #2843 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:21 pm

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Actually no, I'm more confident on this

VOTE: Outworld
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Post Post #2844 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:27 pm

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Man, I'm so conflicted right now. Too many scumreads
In post 2066, Gypyx wrote: Infinity 324 (5) Andresvmb, Datisi, Luca Blight, Umlaut, Iconeum
Datisi (1) samantha97
Samantha97 (2): Llamafluff, OutworldER
llamafluff (4) koto, Rathe, Anya, Infinity 324

Not Voting (1): Something_Smart
This wagon on Infinity is *probably* all-town. I think we just need a flip or at least a claim from this slot and then go from there.

VOTE: Infinity
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Post Post #2845 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:51 pm

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In post 2064, LlamaFluff wrote:On lunch break. Might actually try and take a little time off at end of day so I can commit more time here and then just work a few hours tomorrow to make up that time.

Why is Infinity a wagon again? I would pretty much vote the entire game with very few exceptions instead of them based on current reads, and similarly would be willing to snap wagon just about anywhere else. Yeah we need to push something through today, but everyone seems way to comfortable with gamestate which just increases my thoughts that Infinity is something scum are fine with happening so they are town. Not claiming unless absolutely needed, less scum know the better.
In post 2068, Infinity 324 wrote:aaaa does llama do that as scum
This actually seems a pretty weak reason to suddenly flip your read and push in a completely different direction

Like if you were already so sure of Llama being scum, why would 2064 particularly move you? I get Llama isn't being opportunistic or jumping to save his own skin, but he's isn't exactly taking a hard stance either

I guess s/s is possible, or just a calculated move on Infinity's part in order to gain towncred?
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Post Post #2846 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:52 pm

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why does it look like this game as a whole is trying to protect infinity as much as it can

- miracle wagon on rathe last second
- andre is dead
- most of the currently scummier slots are completely ignoring me and my ramblings about infinity / softly dragging away from her

like come on i can't be the only one who sees this lmao

like if infinity were town, and andres was killed because loud town and not because of reads, don't you think there would be at least some scumfuck who would follow me on it? instead it's mostly townie people that did? like??
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Post Post #2847 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:54 pm

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In post 2846, Datisi wrote:why does it look like this game as a whole is trying to protect infinity as much as it can
because she is towny?
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Post Post #2848 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:56 pm

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why have you not responded to my earlier post about possible motivation of scum!infinity eod1 and request for your own reads, but you're here within two minutes to jump in and defend infinity?
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Post Post #2849 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:56 pm

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SS, how about you lay down a vote

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