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[Iconeum]

unless there is any case to be made for town!anya i'm yeeting anya here

[Iconeum]

but i don't see it

[Koto]

I don't think full massclaim is a good idea.
However, forcing Umlaufsatz and S_S wouldn't be a bad idea.

[Koto]

No brutal execution of Anya before we solve where I will sleep, please.

[Datisi]

I don't think full massclaim is a good idea.

However, forcing Umlaufsatz and S_S wouldn't be a bad idea.

why do you think so?

[Iconeum]

forcing a claim out of *anyone* right now is likely equaling mass claim

so you can have it one way or the other please

[Iconeum]

why umlaut 'The Daughter' umlaut and SS over llama tho?

[Koto]

why umlaut 'The Daughter' umlaut and SS over llama tho?

If Anya flips Town, there is no way llama is fakeclaiming from brutal execution.

[Koto]

One scum in Anya/ llama
One scum in outworlder/ SS
Umlaufsatz.
I would rather see Umflaufsatz fakeclaim now, before he has chance to come up with a good claim in his PT.
Some with SS, if he is scum.

[Iconeum]

that goes for anyone i'd assume

[Iconeum]

ok shotgun solve here goes

(anya/llama)
(outworlder/Samantha/umlaut)

1 scum in the top
remainder in the bottom

if this is wrong... yeah

[Koto]

So Anya is scum with 50% chance and Umlaufsatz with 66%.
VOTE: Umlaufsatz

[Iconeum]

i'm something of a

[Iconeum]

i'm something of a mathematician myself but something doesn't feel right with your % there xd

[Iconeum]

what makes you think anya v llama is exactly 50/50

[Iconeum]

here's another %

unless you make a solid towncase on anya, there is a 0% chance i'm not voting there

[Iconeum]

koto i wanna work with you here but i honestly don't see why umlaut is the best flip here?

[Koto]

Since he is scum.
The reason why I am unsure with Anya is, that if we have vanilla messenger, Anya is a TI without CC.
And even if there was a CC, Anya's is actually pretty weak with the messenger/ rolestopper.

[Datisi]

this is the kinda bullshit that massclaim would *really* help with.

like, at this point i'm running out of arguments against it ahah can more people weigh in on this?

[Iconeum]

very well

let's go full massclaim and see if we can't find any shenanigans and help us solve some more then

[Iconeum]

it's either that or just yeet anya, no middle ground imo

if massclaim, i don't know who starts
llama?

[Datisi]

it's either that or just yeet anya, no middle ground imo

+1

the problem is getting this pl to agree to anything is difficult

[Koto]

*

sigh

*
Why can't just llama, Umlaufsatz and S_S claim?

[Datisi]

because at this point everyone else might claim as well?

actually i guess it would depend on what llama claims??? idk i wish i was dead

[Iconeum]

Since he is scum.
The reason why I am unsure with Anya is, that if we have vanilla messenger, Anya is a TI without CC.
And even if there was a CC, Anya's is actually pretty weak with the messenger/ rolestopper.

do you realize that post-massclaim and assuming no roleclaim shenanigans i'm still not yeeting umlaut today?

there's a few scenarios that might be a thing that could maybe potentially happen, but it's not like we're doing massclaim only to out llama's claim and maybe the mailman, to then just default into yeeting umlaut

that's just not happening, that's way too hectic

talk to me koto?