Mini Normal 2199: Baseball (Over)

[DkKoba]

why am I mafia samantha?

[DkKoba]

hiiii dkkoba

and everyone else

my pre-replace reads after 13 pages:
mozamis town
norwegian town
not_mafia town

flowtrap mafia
kitty mafia

interesting how kitty and flowtrap are voting norwegian

also I'm going to be

this game

I'll still be 100% right but not stress fighting for it; that low quality gif I made in 3 minutes captures it perfectly

gonna go read from page 80 on for now unless there's some critical moment you want me to see asap

can you ellaborate on what pinged you in that direction prereplacement?

also please answer this

[DkKoba]

cool
thats all i needed

VOTE: norwegian

if this flips town then idfk and we prob lose because idk who third is here - dont vote daystart tomorrow if thats the case thats how you lose games kthx

my current guess on a team is norwee/samantha(eso slot)/elsa

if any of those flip town then go anya

[DkKoba]

actually i take it back - if any of those flip town go NM

[DkKoba]

if this flips town then idfk and we prob lose because idk who third is here - dont vote daystart tomorrow if thats the case thats how you lose games kthx

my current guess on a team is norwee/samantha(eso slot)/elsa

if any of those flip town then go anya

why vote outside of the dual roles that would benefit mafia and almost definitely exist to ferret out the checker (in conjunction with some other role, like visitor or bodyguard)

its valiant that you really want to save norwee - but your world view coming into this game is so messed up and completely ignored the points made against norwee that i can't trust it. and the way you shaded me felt like trying to set me up in some way so while im paranoid that this might flip town im sticking to my gut and occam's razor of that the dead have spoken against norwee and that is why they have died - and that I wasn't speaking against norwee and i didn't die. i wouldnt be surprised if norwee flipped a PR role or something

[DkKoba]

samantha likes to quickhammer as scum - just like take note of that esp if this flips town.

[DkKoba]

im just nervous this flips town

[DkKoba]

i dont like being wrong

[DkKoba]

norwee stop twilight trolling - you're giving very vague reads here that seem to be wifom based

[DkKoba]

bruh moment when mod posts elsewhere on site but didnt flip thread. eilitelling the mod
we dont matter huh

Slander -b

[DkKoba]

im basically IC at this point ty

[DkKoba]

VOTE: Elsa

pocketing is illlegal

I'll pocket you too if it makes you feel better. Don't want to leave you out. After we make friends of course.

How's your day?

pocketing me d1 is fine, anytime after that and its like holding a live grenade for too long.

^^ me calling it out in RVS L:MFAOO

[DkKoba]

Unvote

Sorry, it's been a crazy week.

To everyone currently voting for me: Are you all voting for me because I'm the easy choice? Or because I am the best choice? What do you hope to learn or gain after my elim? Who on my wagon do you think might actually be scum?

And I feel like I've missed the whole Norweigain thing.... could someone please summarize the case on him?

I'm not voting you atm, but to answer who i think would be scum if you're town. Potentially Mozamis or Owen. I townread Flow Trap and Zoomer also feels pretty town since they seem exactly the same as that newbie we had together.

[DkKoba]

Imma be real with yall - I don't think Anya is town. The way they are playing suggests they are open/powerwolfing.

their vibe seems to be to force thru any viable elim.

What Flow Trap said below. I think MS players tend to be a lot more lenient and patient than most other mafia forums/spots. So them being aggressive probably isn't all that AI.
Not saying it clears them as town or anything, but probably more null than anything.

[DkKoba]

just skimming norwee's ISO i wanna say solidly that a solve has eso/elsa/NM and no one else - kitty/anya/flow seem spewed town

[DkKoba]

norwee seems unhappy this game - and shades NM a lot while never actually pushing into that direction. which is why I put NM in that category.
Im still rereading but if I can rule out NM that helps a lot more.

[DkKoba]

just skimming norwee's ISO i wanna say solidly that a solve has eso/elsa/NM and no one else - kitty/anya/flow seem spewed town

Why Anya town?

d1 skim of norwee's iso shows norwee's attitude towards anya slot to be that of scum trying to set town up rather than scum x scum - im not done rereading but i think that's a good starting point for my read on anya based on the red flip

[DkKoba]

dont rush votes.

[DkKoba]

thats e-2

[DkKoba]

Samantha gave me "no result". I clarify this again, that's not "No movement detected". That means my action failed on them.

So literally the only 2 options there are they lied about being VT or Kitty finally decided to roleblock me.

I don't know enough to know that those are the only 2 options, but if they are then cool we solved the game even if you're town

that'd mean it's anya/kitty as the last 2

Do you think its anya?

[DkKoba]

i think kitty is hard town here

[DkKoba]

hiiii dkkoba

and everyone else

my pre-replace reads after 13 pages:
mozamis town
norwegian town
not_mafia town

flowtrap mafia
kitty mafia

interesting how kitty and flowtrap are voting norwegian

also I'm going to be

this game

I'll still be 100% right but not stress fighting for it; that low quality gif I made in 3 minutes captures it perfectly

gonna go read from page 80 on for now unless there's some critical moment you want me to see asap

Samantha - can you explain how you reached Norwegianboy town here?

[DkKoba]

Anya/Kitty are 2 town im willing to lock in rn

VOTE: not mafia
I think norwee spewed this slot as scum.
Look at how much norwee shades nm and only puts forth a half push once its clear that town is surrounding them.

[DkKoba]

I am not sure between samantha/elsa/flow trap

[DkKoba]

unvote

[DkKoba]

I dont wanna rush today

[DkKoba]

if kitty is scum here im thoroughly pocketed and am impressed.
Ill try to reread all slots later but i feel this is my final stand as live town today and will be targeted tonight.
So please dont rush the day - id like to offer my analysis today if anything. The 3 wagons rn are all within my PoE so it isnt the worst if any go through but it will still be a detriment if we dont maximize the info today

[DkKoba]

UNVOTE:

[DkKoba]

You know what? On a second thought, Elsa is indeed the more likely one to be scum. VOTE: Elsa

But yes it is between you 2. One has to be lying. If Elsa is town we hang you the next day.

why are you pushing to rush the elim?

[DkKoba]

i feel as though flow has significantly changed since day 1 - and me not being killed over so many other people makes me believe that my strong fos on elsa is possibly not correct and I'm being used here for it.

on the other hand unown basically trusted me at this point and was just voting with me and im left with just kitty whos more or less sheeping me - with 4 others who either wont vote with me really.

i wanna figure out what the intent is from the nightkill currently -because elsa's alignment hinges on it - as does the overall solve.

i want everyone to go over Flow's ISO and tell me what they think of it. Same with Anya+Eso(now samantha) if you have the time to. I think we can learn a lot from norwee interactions there - as well as how they were perceived by now dead town players.

[DkKoba]

In 2019, the Dodgers won 106 regular season games and lost in the NLCS to the Nationals. In 2020, including the Postseason, they won 56 games and won it all, the Nationals tied with the beloved Mets for last place in the NL East.

Votecount 1.06

NorweigianboyEE (4):

DkKoba, Artemiana, Rathe, Anya

Elsa Jay (2):

Jim Hawkins, flow trap

Jim Hawkins (2):

mozamis, esotericzoomer

Anya (1):

, Elsa Jay

artemania (1):

, KittyTacky

KittyTacky (1):

UNOwen

mozamis (1):

Not_Mafia

Rathe (1):

NorwegianboyEE

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to eliminate.
Day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-03-20 14:15:00).

In his rookie year, all time great Ted Williams walked 107 times, a record for all rookies.

Votecount 1.07

Jim Hawkins (4):

mozamis, esotericzoomer, flow trap, UNOwen

NorweigianboyEE (4):

DkKoba, Artemiana, Rathe, Anya

Anya (1):

, Elsa Jay

artemania (1):

, KittyTacky

Elsa Jay (1):

Jim Hawkins

mozamis (1):

Not_Mafia

Rathe (1):

NorwegianboyEE

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to eliminate.
Day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-03-20 14:15:00).

[DkKoba]

this vote movement - in particular. 2 flipped town on the norwee wagon - and anya and I are there too.

[DkKoba]

An official Major League Baseball ball has 108 stitches.

Votecount 1.08

Jim Hawkins (6):

mozamis, esotericzoomer, flow trap, UNOwen, Anya,KittyTacky

Anya (3):

, Elsa Jay, DkKoba, Jim Hawkins

flow trap (1):

Not_Mafia

mozamis (1):

Rathe

NorweigianboyEE (1):

Artemiana

Rathe (1):

NorwegianboyEE

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to eliminate.
Day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-03-20 14:15:00).
NorweigianboyEE has been prodded

The shift may be banned soon, which is weird.

Votecount 1.FINAL

Jim Hawkins (7):

mozamis, esotericzoomer, UNOwen, Anya,KittyTacky, Elsa Jay, Not_Mafia

Anya (3):

, DkKoba, Jim Hawkins, NorwegianboyEE

mozamis (1):

Rathe

NorweigianboyEE (1):

Artemiana

Not Voting:

flow trap

Jim Hawkins has been eliminated.

and then norwee here pushes the wagon over.

[DkKoba]

not norwee- sorry cant read. but elsa.

[DkKoba]

there was a vested interest in keeping norwee alive - which makes me believe that the remaining scum is vanilla.

[DkKoba]

i think - theres a chance that elsa vs samantha here is SvS.

I don't think Anya is scum here.


also im still mad that jim died d1.

[DkKoba]

Yes and i want to make it as hard for town to make an oopsie today since we should be reviewing the game in light of the red flip on norwee and solidifying our stances and figure out the game with the fresh scum flip

[DkKoba]

anya why are you trying to force day to end?

slow the fuck down right now

[DkKoba]

god now i know why unown died.. he was sheeping me too easily and being helpful..

[DkKoba]

i think you put her at e-1 which means NM may quickhammer. id just like to extend day a few days - up to about 5 - just so we can get some talking in about who we think the final 3 poe should be.

[DkKoba]

we sorta extended the day yday too - like we were all set on norwee because obvious - and then like we got extra info out of it - i wanna just ensure a full solve now vs scrambling in a possible lylo yaknow.

[DkKoba]

i wanna relook norwee x eso interactions myself later - i think i could bin NM as town - but i also gotta figure out which of elsa/flow are final scum.

[DkKoba]

im liking samantha over elsa here reading this conversation

[DkKoba]

We have the night actions tied together in a way thats very good info wise

[DkKoba]

I'm much more inclined to do Sam first, on a second thought. I doubt Elsa would accuse Sam like that if she was scum as that means she is doomed tomorrow = 1 for 1 which is bad for scum.

Its 1 lim to lylo - it would be a good strat to fake a guilty esp in the situation that elsa is in post norwee red flip.

[DkKoba]

I actually worded it in that way on purpose to gauge the reaction

[DkKoba]

It says a lot about our society

[DkKoba]

im home. I wanna reveal that there is an optimal elimination we are not talking about - that if we flip Kitty here - it solves a lot with the game.

a) if kitty flips town, we comfortably know that there is a true cc between elsa/samantha
b)anya becomes clear and can be forced to be eliminated by scum due to putting her on another PR claim
c) if kitty flips scum, we can comfortably say that the elsa x samantha debacle is TvT and there's scum elsewhere.

i've been toying with it while i could while at work - this is like the most solve worthy elim here - the theory came about when i got lightly pinged by the change of energy coming from kitty.


tell if im crazy or no

[DkKoba]

I got the next 2 days off

[DkKoba]

sooo imma dedicate some time to my reread

[DkKoba]

Anya is basically locktown- ill explain why when im by a computer.

[DkKoba]

i detected movement around VOTE: Norwegian

i think NM and Anya are spewed town from norwee - the way norwee reacted to the guilty claim anya had on them suggests that from their end.

also just prob just self meta but the way norwee talked about NM also was similar to how he talked about me - similar type of fake annoyance which gives me the vibe they werent partnered.


Kitty's reaction to sam just now made me feel comfortable locking in them as town here - I'm still going to reread and try to solidfy better but I'm laying out my TRUE hand now - a lot of things ive said recently were mostly manipulative things to see how the wind blew based on specific stances i wanted to see.

now: I think that there is a high chance of elsa AND samantha being partners together.

something about the vibe of the interactions around elsa/norwee/zoomer(samantha) made me hmmm and this hmm makes me feel comfy with that solve.


flow trap is like the only other slot im not able to townbin here - but on reread i might be able to solidify that. their dropped energy is really notable and i wanna confirm it.


if flow trap is scum here - its more likely elsa who is their scum partner i feel.

[DkKoba]

HEAL: Not Mafia
HEAL: Anya
HEAL: Kitty

HURT: Elsa
HURT: Samantha
HURT: Flow Trap

[DkKoba]

I don't think we should get complacent later and just strictly follow this PoE - but i think this has a good chance of winning the game for us here.

[DkKoba]

I felt roughly this way when entering this day - now I feel comfortable with it once again. I was not as sure on the townreads earlier but im a bit more sure now.

[DkKoba]

why not elsa first?

[DkKoba]

good point. do you think flow trap fits as a partner for zoomer?]

i wanna look into the scumreads of the dead people but it would explain why i was left alive so long

[DkKoba]

nah- more like flow trap

[DkKoba]

ok

[DkKoba]

whats ur solve

[DkKoba]

the "wrong reason" being that norwee spewed the slot scum LOL

[DkKoba]

definitely anya for me


guiltied partner and is aggressive and unlimmable?

no thanks.

[DkKoba]

now - if i was a third party and my slot here was town - i would kill my slot personally.

person forcing day to slow down and push solving and isn't afraid to accept new evidence as time goes on?

thats gonna lead to a lost game right there.

[DkKoba]

I don't know if I should be pleased or creeper out you agreed with me Sam. What's your reasoning?

maximum obfuscation/prevents poe from shrinking

dkkoba surviving 2 days = ++ mafia
elsa/anya unresolved, plus they are both tied up with kitty as well
not_mafia is not_mafia

basically town gets the least out of flowtrap dying

you know the other people that died = people who were pushing on norwee and townread me?

i would sac norwee in a heartbeat here LOL

[DkKoba]

also anya is the most clear person here

unless someone wants to give the case where they are scum here - it is very unlikely anya is scum here and I'm not going to pollute my mind with the theory that she is here scum here today.

[DkKoba]

hey flow trap can u explain why reduced activity?

[DkKoba]

hey flow trap can u explain why reduced activity?

I had ADHD and need more and more stimulus for something or else I get tired of it, if anything this game has been slowing down

I also have adhd and feel this - but youre so absent and have not done much post norwee flip. When that should be a stimulus in of itself

[DkKoba]

I also have adhd and feel this - but youre so absent and have not done much post norwee flip. When that should be a stimulus in of itself

either I only just now noticed that your avatar is animated or this is the mandela effect

Its very subtle

[DkKoba]

Koba what is this object called?

stepladder

[DkKoba]

hey flow trap can u explain why reduced activity?

I had ADHD and need more and more stimulus for something or else I get tired of it, if anything this game has been slowing down

I also have adhd and feel this - but youre so absent and have not done much post norwee flip. When that should be a stimulus in of itself

Should isn't is

VOTE: flow trap

[DkKoba]

i literally hard locked the elim onto norwee and cased him d3 and was only extending the day in order to gain more info - so don't even try to start with that

[DkKoba]

I'm asking do you get how I'm acting

Dk do you get like this when your partner is shot

Is this a scumslip?

No, they seem to like applying me to their scum game so I'm asking them if they act like I'm acting right now when their partner gets shot

thats not actually what I'm doing. you're being dead weight right now - and I want to know why you are not shifting away from being dead weight. you seem no interest in trying to help solve and are staying opinionless here when before you were not like that.

[DkKoba]

anya and norwee are either SvT or SvS i will say that

Actually, I think TvT is more likely than SvS

[DkKoba]

this line comes to mind when I think that it is not logical for you to not have any updated opinions - you were saying you townread norwee one way or another.

[DkKoba]

ok. so explain what changed? what made you shift your opinion?

i also notice you attacking my townreads a lot - who are all flipped town now.

[DkKoba]

I havent seen where you explained this - can you restate and with detail?

[DkKoba]

@brass im voting flow trap

[DkKoba]

@brass im voting flow trap

Yes, that's why your vote has always been there.

:thonk:

[DkKoba]

Ill write up the case later but i did do my reread and landed on a solid flow trap scumread

[DkKoba]

welcome - lets see if you reach a similar solve as I have from the VCA titus

[DkKoba]

esotericzoomer

Artemiana

KittyTacky

Rathe

Not_Mafia YyottaCat

UNOwen

flow trap
Anya Zulfy
Elsa Jay

NorwegianboyEE *

mozamis

Jim Hawkins

DkKoba

colored list of flipped alignments

[DkKoba]

Skimming the wagons, I like flowtrap first and Anya second (but weaker). Flow trap's vote was a momentum swinging vote away from EE day 1.

VOTE: Flow trap

how about a reads list?

[DkKoba]

Either Elsa or Kitty has to be scum from your perspective, why is Anya equal with Kitty and below Elsa?

Why is that true?

What do you claim?

[DkKoba]

Either Elsa or Kitty has to be scum from your perspective, why is Anya equal with Kitty and below Elsa?

Why is that true?

What do you claim?

Why would I claim here?

intent to put titus at e-1

[DkKoba]

Not from the whole game, Dk.

flow thats a scummy move since you know what not mafia will do

[DkKoba]

ok titus claim fast

[DkKoba]

if titus flips town , hard turbo flow trap next day.

Try to have a little more nuance between elsa/kitty if they flip VT.

[DkKoba]

Tbh if it flips scum get flow anyways

[DkKoba]

alright - so elsa is claiming that she was either roleblocked or that you are lying about being VT which is why your slot was voted

[DkKoba]

im also pensive about this "cc" we can instead chain the 2 motions detectors to titus. Kitty said they were 2 shot. Dont think theyre different if scum so theyre prob out of shots

[DkKoba]

"I like titus but imma vote them to e-1 so NM can hammer" is quite a hot take

[DkKoba]

the stagnant gamestate makes me feel kitty/flow trap is a good possibility here

[DkKoba]

can we get flow trap here

[DkKoba]

what pings u about anya btw?

did u see that anya guiltied norwee the previous day essentially?

[DkKoba]

how do you feel about flow trap?

[DkKoba]

[DkKoba]

[DkKoba]

Anyone there

[DkKoba]

Any reason the people off wagon are off wagon?

[DkKoba]

Elsa has hammer on titus and flow trap rn

[DkKoba]

Elsa hammer flow.

[DkKoba]

btw its elsa and flow

[DkKoba]

I kinsa had this moment where i wanted to hammer titus after she explained that it cant be kitty and flow- realized the logic there wrt elsas claim logic
Thus it's likely elsa/flow

[DkKoba]

He claimed visitor i think

[DkKoba]

I was here

[DkKoba]

:/

[DkKoba]

Bc the poe is solved prob??

[DkKoba]

"Why did scum give up and stop giving potential associatives??"

[DkKoba]

ok lol sure its so believable after a scum member died u lost all motivation bc ur town

[DkKoba]

lets fucking goooooo

[DkKoba]

gg i was mafia

[DkKoba]

this is flipping scum

[DkKoba]

If it flips town then it has to be elsa/titus together

[DkKoba]

Scum has to kill me if it is town - thats why i say that.
Because anya and kitty are linked and killing town within elsa/titus means scum makes the game easier

[DkKoba]

Flow just kinda sunk today for me. His recent posts are pretty gross. I'm convinced he is scumslipping.

If this is town it will be ELo with 3 suspects (me, Elsa, Titus). If it is, we hang Titus tomorrow.

Titus is likely Flow's partner, Flow went lethargic and started sinking when Sam/Titus got pushed after Norwe died. Take this into account.

COWABUNGA IT IS! VOTE: flow trap

And titus, kitty explains here

[DkKoba]

>me not waking up to a flip

[DkKoba]

god i just like am so relieved i was right abt flow

[DkKoba]

whos dying tonight, anya, me, or not_mafia?

[DkKoba]

i do think its funny tho
scum: put a townie at e-1 expecting NM to hammer
NM: no.

[DkKoba]

ah fuck this is flipping town isnt it.

[DkKoba]

Nvm flipping scum still wew

[DkKoba]

Last spam before lock

[DkKoba]

[DkKoba]

alright heres where i say im a compulsive weak traitor visitor - i need scum to claim right now or else I will die tonight. thank you.

[DkKoba]

look it doesnt help when my teammates have been killing all the towniest people that i binned as obvtown????

[DkKoba]

smh my head!

[DkKoba]

if this flips scum we have autowin i think

[DkKoba]

Who did u rb kitty

[DkKoba]

i think its auto here

[DkKoba]

I do wanna say good job all town for working towards a win, we all did our parts and did well ^.^ fumbled at the start but we got there in the end.

[DkKoba]

Anyone have experience with mini normals with traitors btw? How many scum were there?

[DkKoba]

Damn we were in autowin the whole time

[DkKoba]

fuck it speedgame VOTE: titus

[DkKoba]

VOTE: no lim
Elsa and anya rechecks titus.

[DkKoba]

VOTE: titus

if we lose because theres actually 4 scum i blame the setup

[DkKoba]

VOTE: samantha97

I visited Elsa BTW

VOTE: Not_Mafia

Well if it's Samantha or Elsa then it's probably NM, correct?

btw

[DkKoba]

flow was spewed by how he acted around norwee - so this makes sense

[DkKoba]

Uh... we dont lose here right? It wasnt a bs setup?

[DkKoba]

Id rather not NL here since it just means I die but yeah.

[DkKoba]

Anya - i only voted to lim because of your guilty you claimed.

[DkKoba]

I actually am rereading flow trap rn - i have a vote in mind now.

[DkKoba]

wait we no lim - the simple motion detector is on me and the complex one is on the other and i think we mechanically just win

[DkKoba]

(one of the motion detectors is scum, and scum have to shoot here)

[DkKoba]

ergo scum have to shoot their motion detector cc and then cc me

[DkKoba]

(its most likely elsa here but I would like to go through the mechanical song and dance)

[DkKoba]

i rechecked - anya cleared kitty, because traitor flipped we know there was no group scum there, and that remaining groupscum was solo-killing post norwee flip.

[DkKoba]

rereading im still sure on elsa but id rather have it 100% confirmed fmpov before we have kitty hammer in 3 way.

[DkKoba]

theres just as many points against elsa for them being scum as there for anya being town - which is funny.

but again, would rather force a cc here than rush an elim since we can narrow it down to me vs someone else(and i feel confident I can win the cc easily with this strat based on my play thus far)

[DkKoba]

how funny i thought I would need to work to actually figure out who was scum here when it would just be easily confirmed mechanically

[DkKoba]

sooooo i'm a complex motion detector

is it weird for town to have 2 of these?

I'm confused too.

But let's get this more out so I can read it Simply. Heh

Simple Motion Detector. Me. I said complex because honestly I confused it with the Conditional modifier instead. So I tried to help Anya out. Then I realized Complex was the flip one of mine and cursed Anya for outting it completely.

I fail on people with Complex roles. Basically all the PRs. I still get Goons and VTs.

Anya goes on Elsa

Elsa goes on me.

[DkKoba]

pretty much guaranteed to move into a 50/50 and makes sure that anya isn't scum here.

[DkKoba]

VOTE: no lim

[DkKoba]

Either I die or one of you 2 die.

[DkKoba]

If kitty dies that likely doesnt change anything

[DkKoba]

Elsa who were you on last night and why didnt you claim that result?

[DkKoba]

No lim is already hammered it only takes 2

[DkKoba]

But we have 2 clears so lol oops. But lets see what happens

[DkKoba]

brass gave me a result on samantha when he shouldn't have

how can i check Elsa if i target her dkkoba? won't i just see motion and that doesn't tell me anything?

i targeted dkkoba last night and saw nothing

That.... literally affected how yesterday went. "Doesnt affect anything" my ass

[DkKoba]

Im just paranoid and like to go thru all the steps im not hasty and utilize all resources lol.

[DkKoba]

if anya didnt claim the result i wouldnt have voted there

[DkKoba]

UNVOTE:

[DkKoba]

brass gave me a result on samantha when he shouldn't have

how can i check Elsa if i target her dkkoba? won't i just see motion and that doesn't tell me anything?

i targeted dkkoba last night and saw nothing

That.... literally affected how yesterday went. "Doesnt affect anything" my ass

It "didn't effect anything" because Titus already died. I dunno his logic.

He only said something after Titus died so yeah.

Bc he realized when anya claimed the result ?? Its suicidal to do that there like scum it makes sense to be a mod error lol

[DkKoba]

well the thing is - elsa has to explain the misresult on titus bc kitty is conftown alongside me

[DkKoba]

VOTE: elsa
Lets make this quick

If anya is scum she played everyone like a fiddle. I have paranoia there bc shes still alive for so long but like elsa has been on the contrary extremely scummy and what hammers it bome is the misresult

[DkKoba]

look if its your result elsa then we can just consider game compromised bc that affected the titus slot heavily

[DkKoba]

Im fine taking an L for mod error since its out of our control.

[DkKoba]

basically if youre scum here we already earned the win. If youre town, mod error fucked us over.

[DkKoba]

We can be rest assured that in a post flow flip world with correct reports we had autowin and the mod error was the only thing that messed it up

[DkKoba]

I mean like the game was compromised either way and influenced the titus lim

[DkKoba]

I dont think anya plans for a magical mod error message to help excuse her false result lol

[DkKoba]

if there wasnt a message abt a mod error I would be focusing on anya here today

[DkKoba]

elsa claimed the guilty at a time where they could sac.
Traitor inherits the nightkill right?

[DkKoba]

VOTE: anya

[DkKoba]

theres no reason elsa goes for a 1 for 1 guilty play if they lose when losing the cc

[DkKoba]

Just checked wiki

[DkKoba]

Also NM dying over me makes sense while anya living so long while guiltying 1 of 2 of group scum

[DkKoba]

Anyas play can be chalked up to TMI

[DkKoba]

It was a theory i was considering but i stuck with elsa scum bc of the false guilty

[DkKoba]

Scum elsa more likely tries to 1v1 me here i feel

[DkKoba]

Idk why brass even commented on how "impactful" the error had on the game thats just ugh

[DkKoba]

Can you explain why elsa went into a 1v1 that would be autoloss for them?

[DkKoba]

at the time she claimed it we had a ML

[DkKoba]

we chose to get flow instead there

[DkKoba]

samantha/titus

[DkKoba]

@kitty ive decided im not moving my vote. Feel free to withhold and question. I have nothing more to say.

[DkKoba]

The guilty was NOT getting movement.

[DkKoba]

it was getting no result on a VT. ergo titus slot was likely scum.

and you know what?

why does elsa no kill and not just kill kitty?

[DkKoba]

titus slot had claimed VT twice.

and titus hardclaimed it thus it was effectively a cc.

[DkKoba]

on one hand

night kill analysis suggests that I didn't die because elsa is town and I was tunneled on them.

but anya's play has been substantially more pro town than elsa.

this is a huge conundrum,.

[DkKoba]

elsa can you explain why you were so resistant on a flow trap lim?

[DkKoba]

anya you talk a LOT about norwee early game on d1 and d2 but really don't push anything in that direction or try to convince anyone else until after 2 MLs

[DkKoba]

look at who NM was mainly pushing over who we were mainly pushing Kitty

[DkKoba]

UNVOTE:

[DkKoba]

There was a mod error in the previous night's resolutions I don't believe it should affect the results of the game

Wording implies previous nights meaning most recent.

[DkKoba]

Ok yeah
VOTE: elsa
Game is compromised as far as im concerned town earned the win by now as if anya didnt confirm a result we would have been voting in elsa vs anya

[DkKoba]

gg

i think u coulda pulled off nearly going against me as a cc

[DkKoba]

flow trap / norwee / elsa

uwu

[DkKoba]

i did it jim i avenged you

[DkKoba]

sorry anya for the tinfoil - i get REALLY paranoid in endgame lol

if it was 3 way tho i would have hammered elsa earlier already as soon as you voted at SoD LOL

[DkKoba]

Your still on the "Jim was inno" train huh. Lmao.

Anyway this game REALLY shouldn't have taken this long. Brass messing up basically not only gave us an extra game day but also another IRL week. Hope it was still fun Atleast.

Hope we play again together Koba. You were fun. Kitty... Well hopefully you eventually learn to read my posts. Anya you were entertaining the entire way and sorry the only way I even targeted ya today was because of a mod mistake.

i played in a game where I LHF'd jim and hardpushed him on d1 and recognized it here again, once I feel good meta on someone I don't let go until they break it in a way I can't read.