Mini Normal 2205: RotITGBSMoD [game over!]

Datisi · Post Post #2225 (ISO) » Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:59 am

vote count 2.03

with 11 votes in play, it takes 6 to make a decision. day 2 ends in (expired on 2021-04-30 18:15:00).

execution

DKKoba [2]:

InsidiousLemons, Asteria

Andante [1]:

VFP

not voting [8]:

T3, Salsabil Faria, osuka, Anya, Andresvmb, PookyTheMagicalBear, DkKoba, Andante

mod notes~ one two seven three

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T3 · Post Post #2226 (ISO) » Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:59 am

VOTE: DkKoba
I find it highly unlikely that Andante could fake a gs claim.

VFP · Post Post #2227 (ISO) » Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:00 am

In post 2222, Andante wrote:Someone else find scum, I'm so over this. see yall in 24 hours

This is a scum claim.
The shift of posting is amazing to my call out here.

Asteria · Post Post #2228 (ISO) » Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:01 am

In post 2186, DkKoba wrote:I shot at vfb

What's your explanation for vfp not dying then?

VFP · Post Post #2229 (ISO) » Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:02 am

In post 2226, T3 wrote:VOTE: DkKoba
I find it highly unlikely that Andante could fake a gs claim.

And why is that?
If informed and is told for example how many players have guns or there are no GS, anything like that it's an easy claim.

Why do they not check me if I am 100% scum?

Why are they not killed?

Why do they say that Dk was roleblocked?

Why do they stop pushing me as scum now?

So many un answered questions.

VFP · Post Post #2230 (ISO) » Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:04 am

In post 2228, Asteria wrote:
In post 2186, DkKoba wrote:I shot at vfb
What's your explanation for vfp not dying then?

There are only 3 options.

I'm scum and doc saves me
I'm town and Dk is town and scum have a RB
I'm town and Dk is scum and they lied

Those are the 3 options we have right now.
Andante had the mindset that there

is

a roleblocker.

Easy and 1... 2... 3

Asteria · Post Post #2231 (ISO) » Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:07 am

Why would scum chose to RB vig over gunsmith though

Asteria · Post Post #2232 (ISO) » Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:07 am

I'm running under the assumption andante tells the truth. They way they claimed did not seem easily fakable

VFP · Post Post #2233 (ISO) » Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:09 am

In post 2231, Asteria wrote:Why would scum chose to RB vig over gunsmith though

Because Gunsmith is scum!
Shocker!

VFP · Post Post #2234 (ISO) » Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:10 am

In post 2232, Asteria wrote:I'm running under the assumption andante tells the truth. They way they claimed did not seem easily fakable

Just give the name of the VT so I can convince them that Andante is scum.

Asteria · Post Post #2235 (ISO) » Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:11 am

Not yet

DkKoba · Post Post #2236 (ISO) » Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:39 am

im at work i cant catch up but i think scum healed me and vfp is scum also healed which means 2 docs

DkKoba · Post Post #2237 (ISO) » Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:40 am

I think tracker is scum considering they didnt die

DkKoba · Post Post #2238 (ISO) » Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:41 am

VOTE: vfp

DkKoba · Post Post #2239 (ISO) » Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:41 am

tracker should have been on me btw

T3 · Post Post #2240 (ISO) » Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:42 am

In post 2236, DkKoba wrote:im at work i cant catch up but i think scum healed me and vfp is scum also healed which means 2 docs

Sorry, what?

DkKoba · Post Post #2241 (ISO) » Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:43 am

i dont think theres only 1 scum doc based on the informed info

VFP · Post Post #2242 (ISO) » Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:46 am

In post 2240, T3 wrote:Sorry, what?

Dk is trolling.

Asteria · Post Post #2243 (ISO) » Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:51 am

um what. So VFP must be scum, and there are 2 docs and one healed you for whatever reason. Tracker didn't die ?

So are you claiming scum?

VFP · Post Post #2244 (ISO) » Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:52 am

@T3

don't you think it's wierd to go from

In post 2157, Andante wrote:actually, I want VFP out now. I'm like 100% certain they are scum, based on their flip off dragons after I kept yelling dragons was flipping town, like, it was almost like VFP also knew dragons town, but never gave strong reasons

VOTE: VFP

In post 2160, Andante wrote:VFP is certainly scum

In post 2164, Andante wrote:WE ARE NOT ELIMMING VIG RIGHT NOW. I WANT VFP HERE, vig is shooting tonight

In post 2167, Andante wrote:guys, trust me, VFP is scum, he essentially claimed it yesterday. like I'm CERTAIN he is flipping scum

In post 2174, Andante wrote:no, my reads aren't fucking off, I told yall dreagons town, I KNOW VFP is scum, we are getting vfp here

In post 2181, Andante wrote:and I KNOW VFP is one

In post 2184, Andante wrote:I'm CERTAIN vfp is flipping scum based on their actions. I gave yall dragons, now I want vfp

In post 2188, Andante wrote:I want VFP out

In post 2190, Andante wrote:VFP is 10000% scum, like, I know he is scum

And then changes into this.

In post 2210, Andante wrote:wanna be the sr? I'm just thinking we may have better options, such as in andres/T3

In post 2219, Andante wrote:Cause I was having doubts on my read on you?? I'm sorry I'm not gonna pointlessly tunnel someone.

Salsabil Faria · Post Post #2245 (ISO) » Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:53 am

In post 2104, Datisi wrote:
Robert M Hunter has been killed night 1. he was a
vanilla townie
.

the sun rises. it is now day 2.

This is lit!

In post 2106, Asteria wrote:Well that flip definitely would have made for some unhappy scum.

VOTE: anya

And why do you think that unhappy scum is

Anya

, but not

Andresvmb

who kind of refused to believe that both

Robert M Hunter

and

Save The Dragons

can be town??

In post 2109, InsidiousLemons wrote:lol okay

VOTE: Asteria

Having a gun is not always indicate mafia?? I'm not saying that she can't be, but want to your reason for this.

In post 2117, Andante wrote:
In post 2116, Asteria wrote:Actually I see what you're saying. How many guns are there again? 4?
I have one, you have one, the mafia doc does not have a gun, so if there are 2 mafia with a gun each then koba must be lying.

@mod Are the mafia (besides the doc) regardless of their role considered to have a gun?

maf doc and maf traitor don't have guns. Also, I have you down as not having a gun lmao, your reaction here...

In post 2118, Andante wrote:So if you were town here, you'd be like "no! Andante isn't telling the truth!!" instead, your reaction was more of "crap! I was caught!!"

Clever!

DkKoba · Post Post #2246 (ISO) » Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:13 am

In post 2242, VFP wrote:
In post 2240, T3 wrote:Sorry, what?
Dk is trolling.

Not trolling

VFP · Post Post #2247 (ISO) » Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:14 am

In post 2246, DkKoba wrote:
In post 2242, VFP wrote:
In post 2240, T3 wrote:Sorry, what?
Dk is trolling.
Not trolling

Okay cool.

Salsabil Faria · Post Post #2248 (ISO) » Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:16 am

In post 2129, Asteria wrote:
In post 2126, Andante wrote:
In post 2125, Asteria wrote:
In post 2118, Andante wrote:So if you were town here, you'd be like "no! Andante isn't telling the truth!!" instead, your reaction was more of "crap! I was caught!!"
No. Why would I ever do that. You outed me as town with a gun. If I say you're lying then that means I'm claiming either you're scum lying which is false. And that automatically defaults to they believe you and I'm eliminated, or they believe me and you're eliminated.

you never figured I was reaction testing? so if you wanna keep that gunned claim. give the report, cause at this point, you'd only be helping scum
I thought you were at first since I didn't realize my role was considered to be a gun but I guess it does make sense. Also you scumread me so makes sense you targeted me. I guess I'll ask the mod to confirm if I do have a gun but pretty sure I do

Basically you're claiming PR who has a gun but

Andante

's night result says you don't have a gun.... you get caught!
Also,

@Andante

, what does your night result actually say?

VOTE: Asteria

In post 2131, Andante wrote: maybe I have you down as having a gun... who knows. I love this reaction test which you are failing misserably

What the!!!!! Did you check

Asteria

or not??? If you checked, what's the result???

UNVOTE: Asteria

In post 2133, Andante wrote:
In post 2132, Asteria wrote:You didn't. If this was actually a reaction test then you outed a PR for no reason and I was dumb and should've double checked if I have a gun or not

Well yeah, I've clearly outed a pr if you are in fact real, and I see no reason for you to not claim at this point. (I literally checked someone completely different lmao)

And what is the result? I'm going from page to page again, if you didn't say it already, you have a reason not to share it still?

In post 2134, Asteria wrote:Ok well I don't see a point in hiding my role now that scum can pretty much figure out at least what type of role I am. I'm a town non-consecutive night neapolitan. So every second night I target someone and find out if they're a vanilla townie or not. I targeted someone last night who is vanilla town so I have somebody conftown who I won't out right away.

Hmm.... town can't have 2 killing roles ig, if your claim is real, then

DkKoba

is scum or vice-versa.

In post 2147, Andante wrote:
In post 2145, InsidiousLemons wrote:
In post 2140, Andante wrote:you'd also definitely have a gun, so if you're real... that vig situation is still a thing...
not sure i understand this comment. are you speaking of the possibility that asteria is maf PR? what vig situation?

why on earth would you hammer if you were pretty certain dragons was flipping town? what was the thought process there?

neopolitans have guns, vigs have guns, I have a gun, that's 3 guns there, 1 more in play. at least 1 scum has a gun. so if the 3 pr claims are real, we have a traitor in play

I find it hard to believe that out of 4 guns, towns have 3 and the mafias have only 1.... how it balances the power between town and mafia (this question is for those who have a good understanding of power roles balance in this set-up)?

InsidiousLemons · Post Post #2249 (ISO) » Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:20 am

In post 2245, Salsabil Faria wrote:
In post 2109, InsidiousLemons wrote:lol okay

VOTE: Asteria

Having a gun is not always indicate mafia?? I'm not saying that she can't be, but want to your reason for this.

i wanted to put as much pressure on asteria as possible so their reaction would be a kneejerk emotional one rather than giving them time to think it out. their reaction leans scum to me but i'm still unsure.

koba your explanation is laughable. why do you think there are 2 doctors? why do you think there is a tracker at all?

VFP i don't like your push on andante. scum RB is really the only logical explanation for weakvig!koba not dying, and that's where andante's mind went as well as mine. why are they scum for thinking of that possibility but not me?

fwiw T3 reeks right now. i acknowledge they haven't had much time but not doing any catchup over the night is scum AI imo and their wordless vote on the dragons train at the end of D1 does not look good. VFP-T3-Koba is not a bad solve to me atm.

p-edit @salsa neapolitan is not a killing role lol