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[Iconeum]

i mean, it means *something*

i'm not scum with datisi
i'm not scum with outworld
datisi isn't scum with outworld

something like that, sure

[samantha97]

please start working with whoever the fuck you think is town?

that's my line

umlaut is mafia and if you've read the thread you'd know that

it's super obvious just glancing at llama's iso

you're going to take the W whether you like it or not

[Iconeum]

who's the last scum then?

can you make a case on scumlaut rather then 'omg its obvious'?

[samantha97]

like I said I have no interest in broadcasting my thoughts about tomorrow before tomorrow

I'm not gonna give mafia a roadmap for who to nightkill

as for why umlaut, I already did

umlaut was -1 and llama didn't hammer
umlaut was also absent from the llama wagon
llama also never even spoke to umlaut until after he was outed by anya

if you want more details check my recent posts

[samantha97]

oh and both umlaut and llama have had no reads in the entire game, plus umlaut thought llama's nonsensical point about me saying not to lynch before a roleclaim was good lol

[Iconeum]

i've went thru llama's iso a couple times already and it's

well

not really glaringly Obvious that umlaut is partner

there was exactly 1 post in there that makes me believe you aren't partnered with llama

[Iconeum]

I'm not gonna give mafia a roadmap for who to nightkill

sugar please

everyone and their mother knows i'm the nightkill

and i am going to solve this game before i am deadened

so don't give me crap about not giving your thoughts
you said the same thing yesterday, today that won't be allowed

[samantha97]

the question isn't "is samantha partnered with llama?" it's "is umlaut partnered with llama?"

if you think we both are then just capitalize on my vote on him

[Iconeum]

if you say it's so Obvious that umlaut is partnered with llama

simply quote me the posts that make it so Obvious?

[Iconeum]

i don't know why Obvious gets auto capitalized every time

[Iconeum]

if you think i'm town

and you want me to vote umlaut

show me why

[samantha97]

because your keyboard is telling you to capitalize on my vote

[Iconeum]

@umlaut

no response to my other posts?
just taking the Samantha 1v1?

what changed?

[Iconeum]

because your keyboard is telling you to capitalize on my vote

i'll even allow the not spewing your other thoughts part

so just quote me the damning posts in llama iso please?

[Iconeum]

Samantha

ur either bullshitting your read on umlaut, and your take that the link with llama is 'obvious' is bullshit too then

or it's genuine, and you should have no problem just quoting a few of the damning posts if it's that easy to find anyway

you can multiquote easy enough on this forum, shouldn't take you more then a minute or two

[samantha97]

umlaut was -1 and llama didn't hammer
umlaut was also absent from the llama wagon
llama also never even spoke to umlaut until after he was outed by anya

oh and both umlaut and llama have had no reads in the entire game, plus umlaut thought llama's nonsensical point about me saying not to lynch before a roleclaim was good lol

people voting llama: (Luca Blight formerly) Datisi, Iconeum, Koto, Rathe, Anya, Infinity 324

people who didn't: me, andres, outworlder, umlaut

Spoiler:

VOTE: outworlder

if someone hammers without a claim they should get instalynched tomorrow

last mini normal I played mafia hammered a neighborizer before they could claim, cause they were inactive like outworlder/umlaut

This bothers me (emphasis mine). This *really* bothers me because of the implications of it all. There is a difference between saying "no one hammer without a claim" and "no one hammer or they get ran up tomorrow". The second part, which Samantha decided to use here, includes a direct implication that OW is town, which is a very odd one to make as that flies in the face of their reads. Samantha is approaching OW from two different midsets. The first is that OW is scum and needs to go today. The second one is anyone who hammers without a claim is scum, unless you believe that she is seriously suggesting that if someone hammers without a claim that they are scum regardless of what OW flips. The natural mindset is "that was risky, but lets see what happens" if someone hammers a scumread with no claim. Not "you did X that automatically means Y". Because if OW is scum... hammering without a claim wouldnt be a scumtell unless Samantha is seriously suggesting scum would just hammer a partner without letting them claim.

Vote Samantha

Lets see what type of last minute push we can make.

I can maybe buy this but I'd like to see how Samantha responds to it.

also look at the colored vote counts I posted

[Iconeum]

maybe you don't wanna give reads and thoughts about tomorrow because you hope there won't be a tomorrow?

[samantha97]

click llama's iso and ctrl f "umlaut wrote" and you'll see he only directly responded to him after 3400 posts

[Iconeum]

like I said I have no interest in broadcasting my thoughts about tomorrow before tomorrow

I'm not gonna give mafia a roadmap for who to nightkill

as for why umlaut, I already did

umlaut was -1 and llama didn't hammer
umlaut was also absent from the llama wagon
llama also never even spoke to umlaut until after he was outed by anya

if you want more details check my recent posts

oh and both umlaut and llama have had no reads in the entire game, plus umlaut thought llama's nonsensical point about me saying not to lynch before a roleclaim was good lol

also i completely missed these posts

i'll check this first

[Iconeum]

I'm still VT.

I don't follow why Datisi gets townpoints for Ico being alive considering after Rathe elim the only function Ico had was as a named townie and he didn't use that to throw any weight around.

As for my suspicions on this terrible Elo: Umlaut/Samantha feels way too easy but my brain tells me that's where it should go. I didn't like Umlaut yesterday and I haven't like Samantha all game.

I'm very paranoid of Datisi after my experience modding 2195 but tbh I'm checked out of this game and kinda want to just defer to Ico's experience with Datisi on this. I'll still him a lookover though.

outworld expand on this now?
you think Samantha + umlaut is actually plausible? Samantha/umlaut just straight out hard counter bussing in lylo?
and you also throw some shade in on datisi, with only me as a 'deferred' townread?

are these reads still up to date?

[Datisi]

why am i waking up to a page of samantha and ico

where are those other two

[Datisi]

what's making you think samantha is scum?

you realize this isn't a sudden thing that just happened right?

yes i understand, that's why i'm asking you to elaborate on your thought process and how you got there in the span of this game

[Iconeum]

imagine thinking i have actual tangible thoughts processes that i can explain on how my reads are formed

but i could probably quote you relevant posts if you like

[Iconeum]

and also i am not so very sure about scum!samantha at this point

[Datisi]

i believe you can quote relevant posts and explain *some part* of how your reads were formed ffs