MT 2203: Grand Idea Upick: Awakening [Endgame]

[mahimahi]

Day 1 VC #19 (FINAL)

mahimahi (7) (HAMMER @ 812) - Flea The Magician (775), Guillotina (784), TemporalLich (785), KidAmn (786), Raya36 (788),

Korina

(803),

Almost50

(812)

Flea The Magician (0) -
Raya36 (0) -
Guillotina (2) -

VFP

(654), CaptainS (698)
Korina (3) -

Vaxkiller

(323),

mahimahi

(416),

Nono

(588)
VFP (0) -
Nono (0) -
CaptainS (0) -
Vaxkiller (0) -
No Execution (1) -

samantha97

(780)
Not Voting (0) -

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to execute a player.

Deadlines

This phase will end no later than Thursday, April 15, 2021 11:10:00 AM EDT or in (expired on 2021-04-15 11:10:00).
This phase will end no earlier than Friday, April 2, 2021 11:00:00 PM EDT or in (expired on 2021-04-02 23:00:00).

Moderator Notes

1: If you have regular weekend V/LA, please inform me each week.
2: As a reminder, please try to avoid multiposting in a row as that can clutter the thread and make it harder for people who are behind to catch up. Try to combine smaller posts into one larger post.
3: Please try to avoid using the L-word. Alternatives like eliminate, fade, launch, etc. are highly encouraged.
4: Vaxkiller V/LA until the start of Monday, April 5, 2021.

Pronoun Key

1. mahimahi : They/Them
2. Flea the Magician : Fae/Faer (Preferred) or They/Them
3. Raya36 : She/Her
4. TemporalLich : He/Him
5. Guillotina : He/Him
6. Korina : They/Them (Preferred) or He/Him
7. Almost50 : He/Him
8. VFP : They/Them
9. KidAmn : They/Them
10. Nono : Any/Any
11. samantha97 : Any/Any
12. CaptainS : Any/Any
13. Vaxkiller : Any/Any

Remember that scum driven wagon with high scum density I was talking about?

Look who's alive now, 5 players on that wagon + mahi and CaptainS. We'll find at least 3 scum in the 5 of that wagon, very possibly 4 or 5 scum.

I prioritise voting for Flea and Guillo first though, because Flea was pushing us from the start and had no reaction whatsoever to our claim, while Guillo opportunistically switched to us and was terrified to claim.

Raya, KidAmn, and Lichy are iffy but not as bad.

mahireads:

CaptainS
TemporalLich
Raya
KidAmn
Flea
Guillo

-mahi

[mahimahi]

I coloured VFP green because they were town at the time of this vote and yet to be recruited by the evil cultist Korina

-mahi

[Flea The Magician]

Your claim was BS and I called you on the role fishing. You may be the Alien Prince, but I ain't performing in your court. Sooner Guillo takes you down, the better.

[Ircher]

Day 5 VC #6

Flea The Magician (2) (E-2) - TemporalLich (1892), mahimahi (1924)

Raya36 (0) -
Guillotina (1) - CaptainS (1862)

KidAmn (2) (E-2) - Guillotina (1902), Raya36 (1914)

CaptainS (0) -
Not Voting (2) - Flea The Magician, KidAmn (1866)

With 7 alive, it takes 4 votes to execute a player.

Deadlines

This phase will end no later than Thursday, April 29, 2021 8:30:00 PM EDT or in (expired on 2021-04-29 21:00:00).
This phase will end no earlier than Friday, April 23, 2021 8:00:00 PM EDT or in (expired on 2021-04-23 20:00:00).

Moderator Notes

1: If you have regular weekend V/LA, please inform me each week.
2: As a reminder, please try to avoid multiposting in a row as that can clutter the thread and make it harder for people who are behind to catch up. Try to combine smaller posts into one larger post.
3: Please try to avoid using the L-word. Alternatives like eliminate, fade, launch, etc. are highly encouraged.

Pronoun Key

1. mahimahi : They/Them
2. Flea the Magician : Fae/Faer (Preferred) or They/Them
3. Raya36 : She/Her
4. TemporalLich : He/Him
5. Guillotina : He/Him
9. KidAmn : They/Them
12. CaptainS : Any/Any

[mahimahi]

The point I'm making is that everyone who wasn't voting for the powerful claimed town investigative role is flipping town, while most people still on that wagon are still alive, and there's mostly scum alive right now probably.

The odds for this game are 65% town, 20% mafia/werewolf, 15% other pick.

Applying those odds to 13 players - 7.8 town, 2.6 mafia/werewolf, 1.95 other pick

I'm assuming the majority of other picks are third party roles. So that's around 8 town and 5 anti-town

We've had 1 anti-town role flip so far, and 5 town ones (VFP counts)

Of the 7 remaining players, there's probably 4 scum in there. 3 if we're lucky but I wouldn't hold my mahi

Guillotina and Flea are always scum. 2 down

Raya looks aligned with Guillotina, Flea could be with KidAmn

Who knows with Lich, he's a wildcard, and CaptainS is town.

If I had to guess I would say Lich/CaptainS town and the other 4 are scum

-mahi

[mahimahi]

You hearing what I'm saying here,

CaptainS

? Yes, we lied about our claim, but it was for information, and we got a wagon full of scum since they wanted the claimed town OP investigative out. The game's dire but I need you at least to hear what I'm saying, it gets tiring shouting to the abyss of scum in the others. It

might

be possible to bring this back, and the scum are gonna have to start shooting each other now surely so it's not all lost yet.

-mahi

[KidAmn]

Please, keep going. I'm massively enjoying all of this. Take your time. I'll wait.

[Flea The Magician]

and you're using averages to determine something which is random chance... what about reads? Not interested to see who KidAmn is so annoyed with? Cause I do, that sounds like some serious beef.

Town should not lie like that, town certainly should not ROLEFISH LIKE THAT.

[mahimahi]

Vote for Flea or Guillo if you're town and don't be a kid

-mahi

[Flea The Magician]

Not to mention that I don't recall you having true claimed yet, despite being an alien prince.

[Flea The Magician]

I'd vote you if it wasnt so much of a waste. you're practically conf anti-town.

[mahimahi]

Mhm, and we still don't see any reason to trueclaim. Not giving scum any clues on how to kill us, as I'm sure you're craving right now

-mahi

[mahimahi]

We are absolutely town and probably driving scum insane this game, and I'm loving every single moment of it

-mahi

[Raya36]

VOTE: Flea

Long ago, the four mahis lived together in harmony. Then everything changed when the Mahi Nation attacked. Only the Mahi, master of all four mahis , could stop them. But when the world needed mahi most, mahi vanished.

-mahi

Distancing now?

[mahimahi]

Don't try to put doubt in me. You're acting exactly like a jester and I doubt scum claim jester here anyway

Nobody ever expects scum to tell the truth in Mafia. It's really quite sad. Here, let me do it some more:

I was scum.
I am a Jester.
I will hand over this game on a platter.
Yeeting one of my former partners won't end the game today.

Oh right lol

So that's 1 scum turned jester (or scum gambiting)

KidAmn, we'll help you win if you help us vote out scum for a day? Fair deal?

CaptainS/Lich, we need to all vote together if there's any hope for this game. One of you move to the other's wagon.

-mahi

[Raya36]

mahi is scum who is getting desperate because we almost have the game solved

[mahimahi]

Raya, I'm tuning out Guillo/Flea because they're lockscum in my eyes but I'll talk to you just in case you're town.

Can you explain why you're so confident I'm scum in bullet point form? I'll try and address all of them for you. It's been fun messing around this game but I'd feel bad doing it all game to my hero Ircher

pedit: lol and then you go and post something like that and make me feel so much worse about you. Did you see the odds for rolling anti-town, Raya? The odds are that there's

4

anti-town alive in 7 players. You think you have the game solved while discussing with scum?

-mahi

[Raya36]

Guillo is not scum. Flea might be. I don't have time right now to list everything but I will sometime tonight, even though I'm still pretty confident you're scum anyway.

Start by explaining the claims, rolefishing, messing around, not doing much for solving.

I wouldn't mind a full claim from you either

[mahimahi]

Claim - to get information on who's pushing a powerful town investigative. Result: we got a wagon full of scum on us
Rolefishing - anyone who was willing to claim to be checked by us was +++town. Result: VFP was clearly town, Guillo was clearly scum
Messing around - for fun. Result: we had fun
Solving - it's there, you're just biased because you disagree with what we're saying

Not full claiming under any circumstances. We're not giving scum the info they need to kill us.

Can you link to what makes you so confident on Guillo being town?

-mahi

[TemporalLich]

Night 4 begins!

As the two leaders return to check on your progress, it once again begins to rain. "That's not a good sign," starts the first. "Indeed, it is not," comments the second. "Even so, we must continue in our duty. What have we decided today?" asks the first. While some of you point at another with conviction, others are a bit more hesitant. "This will not do. Indecision will be the bane of us all," states the second. "We will return in five minutes," states the first, and the two walk back towards the shadows. After some time, the two leaders return. "Once more, we ask," begins the first, but he is cut off by the voice of another among you. "I have had enough. I offer myself as sacrifice in the hopes that the gods will grant you new vision," the person states in a resolute voice. Seeing no other consensus being formed, the leaders agree to the requested action. The rest of you depart for the night.

samantha97,

Town Naturalist

, was executed Day 4!

Spoiler: Role PM

Welcome, samantha97, to Mini Theme 2203: Grand Idea UPick!
You are a

Town Naturalist

!

While you are alive, any killing or reviving role will not function (excludes faction kills). Refund any X-Shot abilities (or equivalent) prevented by this role. Additionally, only 1 player may die per night. If 2 or more players would die,

randomize which deaths exceeding 1 will be prevented.

The moderator will use a kill priority scheme based on the alignment of the killer. If that fails to narrow the number of deaths to one, the moderator will choose the player who occupies the lowest slot number amongst the still eligible deaths. All applicable prevented abilities/kills are still considered 'visits'.

You win when all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one townie is still alive.

Please confirm by pm'ing me your alignment, role, and any partners you may have (if any).

Night ends on Thursday, April 22, 2021 4:00 PM EDT (GMT-4:00) or in (expired on 2021-04-22 16:00:00). Night actions are due at least fifteen minutes before this deadline.

As a reminder, non-factional actions must be sent by pm.

Fast night is possible if I get confirmation from all living players.

Edit: Day start may be a bit delayed as I have a paper I need to finish writing today. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Since the host decided to inno child CaptainS, i will never be able to push him now that i know that what captain said is actually true.

I hard claim Post #9807 in the grand idea thread.

Yes. Im the mother of all vigilantes:

My night 1 target was Korina, i targeted him with a hand grenade, but instead of killing him i got the grenade back so I assume I was roleblocked cause i got the shot back. Before Korina i had submitted VFP and Temporal as targets too but i decided to trust Raya's townread on him and i had second thoughts on Temporal so idecided tomgive him another chance.


My night 2 target was CaptainS with a hand grenade which again i got it back. So there is either someone with an ability to roleblock the same target two nights in a row or I was roleblocked by two different players. (Or i bot vanillaized and i never got the warning).

Before him i had submitted Temporal Lich and Mahimahi, but I was afraid that my read on Temporal was wrong even though he pushed my strong townread (Raya) and for some reason i tinfoiled that mahimahi could be an independent whose win condition was to get night killed, like an unjester and i was not going to give him the pleasure, i figured if his win condition is to get night killed, i will take them to the end where he'll lose by surviving.
I thought about VFP and Vaxkiller but decided that i was heavily invested on VFP being scum so he being converted was too good to be true and Vax, even though i townread him, i thought about doing town a favor and resolve the slot for info but i changed my mind.

So i read CaptainS and i concluded he was scum and threw a hand grenade on him but i got it back, meh.

When i selected the role i thought i had the guts to really be irresponsible, i thought many times of just using the anti tank missile and kill my target and everyone that targeted them, but i thought about the probability of killing cops, doctors etc, so i realized right there that im not as crazy and irresponsible with power roles as i thought i would be. I always wanted a kill role and now that i have it, i feel so much pressure because my decisions could really play against our wincon or it could solve the game with an unlikely hero shot.
With great power comes great responsibility is so true, i will not choose a killer role again.

this is why guillo is mechtown lol

[TemporalLich]

note that this is exactly what a Scum Role Cop would do

[mahimahi]

Why can't he just be scum with a kill who was getting blocked and being honest about it, but disguising it as a town claim?

-mahi

[TemporalLich]

the two are not mutually exclusive - I'm saying role cop because sam knew the role existed

[TemporalLich]

ebwop: guillo knew the role existed

[mahimahi]

oh yeah, that too

I just can't fathom how that reaction to that fake hammer which obviously wasn't a hammer can ever come from town, along with him refusing to claim on E-1 because he knew we would be able to check him and validate/deny his claim

-mahi