Micro 1009: Would You Like To Be My Neighbor? [Game Over!]

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VOTE: bugspray

This time we have 3 shortest names

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Well that took under a minute for me to make an error

VOTE: Andante

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You should have made a longer name and/or gotten Robert to not vote Hop

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I'm not flow wolf

also, I don't control Robert's vote

Not my problem

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Let me ask

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Robert are you my scum partner?

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How can no of something equal yes?

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You need to prove ile^2n=um in order to cancel them

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Or s=0 I guess

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Or c=0

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I'm putting 0 faith in any Anda scum reads this early tbh

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2n = tonight

ile^2n = ile tonight

ile = house party!!!!

um = ummmmm house party!!!!!

house party tonight = ummmmm house party!!!!
house party = house part

e^2n#e2n

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in any SRs I give or SRs on me?

Why not both

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hahahaha alright, time to kick back and watch the show... hey look Andante has 2 votes. Andante is in the lead!!!

That should be one of your bingo squares, it is on mine

VOTE: Vanderscamp

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VOTE: andante your rvs vibe is off from last time

double pedit wtf

isn't rvs supposed to be different?

Random Voting Stage. If "Random" is always the same, then it would be predictable, and thus not truly random

I know someone who changes their style every game

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Robert are you my scum partner?

wolfie... you haven't given me an answer on this yet... so it's a yes?

Uh I'll get back to you on that I have to go

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I love Hopkirk already!

Same

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Flow trap can you soul read anyone? it would be pretty good if we could get some of those going FAST

Idk what that is so probably?

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georgebailey is well know to be quick to fill with fear

he has 2 votes on him now... I'm sure he's shaking in fear right now

They have 3, why are you lying

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yay, i feel so loved (except by bugspray who's calling me trash and Robert who's being hurtful)

pedit - soul reads are when you can read someone reeeeally well. like 90% or something. you're basically just reading their soul/you know them so well that you know their alignment. i've had a few of them in face to face mafia (read one person correctly about 15 games ina row) but none on here and i'm jealous of people that have some. they really make the game easier though, so it's great to hear you have a few

I have one on my old site they can soul read me too

Power of frenemies

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lol I can't count XD

I "can't count" faster than you

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I had to check how many players were in the game :I

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ok, we need to become frenemies really quick so we can clear each other. let's pretend we're 70s spies from rival yet begrudgingly cooperative agencies or something

Ok, I'm a flat earther

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no flat earthers here

I am an oblong spheroid earther

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put george at e-2 you cowards there's no danger

If there is no danger, then how is it any different from e-3?

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._______.

How does it affect the speech of the subject?

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Some people are comedy-blind

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Some people are comedy-blind

I do sometimes have trouble grasping subtle humor but I’m definitely not comedy blind.

Oh well I am, I thought Anda was serious until then

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when you say read do you mean 'read and work out what they mean' or 'read as town/scum'?

Probably both.

Well ya better try again later

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Some people are comedy-blind

I do sometimes have trouble grasping subtle humor but I’m definitely not comedy blind.

Oh well I am, I thought Anda was serious until then

until when?
maybe i'm the one who read it too far as non-serious

That was a joke

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I can be really

really

dry when I want to

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Nice double meaning, was it intentional?

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:I Yeah ok

VOTE: Loki Dokie

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:I Yeah ok

VOTE: Loki Dokie

Why?

Cause you're the only not voting that was here

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Questioning that initial tl on them now. Town generally doesn’t vote a slot immediately after they express a tl on them. Are you actually scum here Flow?

Town doesn't

usually

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A. Lie
B. Choose who to defend not based on their scum reads
C. Act suspicious on purpose

I don't do any of those things

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:I Yeah ok

VOTE: Loki Dokie

Why?

Cause you're the only not voting that was here

So, I don’t usually vote, so that’s nia for me.

I don't vote based on my scum reads

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hahahaha alright, time to kick back and watch the show... hey look Andante has 2 votes. Andante is in the lead!!!

That should be one of your bingo squares, it is on mine

VOTE: Vanderscamp

Oh, no!
VOTE: flow trap

Pog, bingo square

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Questioning that initial tl on them now. Town generally doesn’t vote a slot immediately after they express a tl on them. Are you actually scum here Flow?

Town doesn't

usually

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A. Lie
B. Choose who to defend not based on their scum reads
C. Act suspicious on purpose

I don't do any of those things

Well you’re wrong.

No, I was lying as a joke

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Questioning that initial tl on them now. Town generally doesn’t vote a slot immediately after they express a tl on them. Are you actually scum here Flow?

Shouldn't it be the other way around, that scum would not want to alienate people who like them, and town wouldn't care?

In my experience no. Why should a townie be sus about a weak tl read on them? But scum has been quick to push me for that. I could obviously be wrong but it’s a really bad take regardless.

Maybe flow is scumreading you for reasons other than your town lean!

No, I am not SRing them

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what was the unintentional double meaning that i may not have spotted in my comment

Spill my tea could mean gossip and I could cover it up with my dry humour

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Flow is just wrong but bugs is my best guess.

I've literally said I don't SR you, so

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ok so im neighbors with andante and they are scum btw they just confessed to me

VOTE: andante

How many mafia games have you played, grandpa?

this is my first :p

Can confirm, I've played in his 0 game before

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ok so im neighbors with andante and they are scum btw they just confessed to me

VOTE: andante

How many mafia games have you played, grandpa?

also why ask? when you can literally go to my pfp and check my games? also you can look at my status it literally says "i always live up to..." that implies i have played before. i am assuming that you think im new lol

Because people are lazy and convo is helpful?

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ok so im neighbors with andante and they are scum btw they just confessed to me

VOTE: andante

How many mafia games have you played, grandpa?

this is my first :p

Can confirm, I've played in his 0 game before

flow.. pls look at what vander said... do you think this is scum lmao

Which one?

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ok so im neighbors with andante and they are scum btw they just confessed to me

VOTE: andante

How many mafia games have you played, grandpa?

this is my first :p

Can confirm, I've played in his 0 game before

flow.. pls look at what vander said... do you think this is scum lmao

Which one?

Easy. Read. Vander said "How many mafia games have you played, grandpa?"

I meant which Vander

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ok so im neighbors with andante and they are scum btw they just confessed to me

VOTE: andante

How many mafia games have you played, grandpa?

this is my first :p

Why do you think andante confessed to you if he is scum?

Do you think he would only confess in your chat as scum and not as town?

this one lol

pedit: @andante sorry not that one andante:(

I fail to see how that is scummy, but I may be rushing due to the face pace right now

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UNVOTE: Loki Dokie

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i thought this was more scummy then the question. is just feels like scum tryna figure out neighbors but confused because i called u my scum buddy and vander got suprsied because they know that andante isnt scum wit them xD

That sounds like a bit of a stretch

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hey wolfie... do you have the answer to that Robert question yet?

I think I already answered twice?

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It was a probably not

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I would like to say I've seen more defensive town than mafia

Also what is Vand at?

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Anda, I think you're town

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Brb going to check votes

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Vand is ar e-3 I believe

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yeahhh good luck trying to count, there's at least 2 on vander, that's all I know

Control F power!

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Anda, I think you're town

Why do you think this?

I think I found a tell

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VOTE: Robert M Hunter

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VOTE: vandante i think this is the most interesting wagon to push for a bit rn

Well you're not wrong

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so, flow and loki are my strongest TRs at the moment, Grandpa.. chilling in the TL category right now, I know I'll hear more from grandpa, I'm not worried. and Hop? Hop is hop. they'd had good lines so TL

What happened to never trusting me

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If I said I used a ouija board to determine that you were scum, I would not expect townAndante and scumAndante to both react strongly to that,

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Because you seem to be simultaneously arguing that it's in your town range to react poorly to pressure, but also that it is not reasonable for me (who has never played with you) to scum read you for reacting poorly to pressure.

How do those contradict each other?

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Also, I changed my avatar, soooo sorry for any confusion

Shape-shifter!

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Ugh I'm not sure I can explain why I think Loki Dokie is scum very well, but I'll try. I feel like his pushes are artificial. They're superficial, aggressive, but unfocused. A buckshot approach.

Vanderscamp is scum for the same reason.

Well, I'm not getting SvS vibes from Vand and Loki

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HI GEORGE!!!!

All caps of scumminess!

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Grandpa town too.... THE TRIO IS TOWN!!!!

Only two players are worrying me: Vanders and bugs but could it really be that easy?

no its not that ez. i think koba is scum too

DK & NM

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New Mexico

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how do you read them individually?

I'm easily duped by aggro scum players, but I'm not seeing the "side effects" of aggro scum in Loki, so I think they're town

Virgo's playstyle is scummy, but they do have a natural progression going for them

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I concur

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how do you read them individually?

I'm easily duped by aggro scum players, but I'm not seeing the "side effects" of aggro scum in Loki, so I think they're town

Virgo's playstyle is scummy, but they do have a natural progression going for them

so why did you say 'not SvS' if you townread one anyway? it feels like weird phrasing

Well, I didn't read them at the time

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I should say the same way

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Yeah, an iso instead of a skim

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Not really, I only isoed them .___.

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how do you read them individually?

I'm easily duped by aggro scum players, but I'm not seeing the "side effects" of aggro scum in Loki, so I think they're town

Virgo's playstyle is scummy, but they do have a natural progression going for them

Virgo? You obviously mean Vanders.

Yes, I've been trying not to say Virgo the whole game

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oh cool it was actually a real townslip

I mean it could just as well be a I'm not partners with my neighbor slip?

Or fake

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LOL WTF @bugs WHY DID U SAY U WANT TO CC FRIENDLY NEIGHBOR LMAO. WRONG CHAT???

what are you referring to?

in post 10 where u just said something along the lines of if u should cc friendly neighbor or something

I don’t want to get into trouble if this is some other ongoing game but did bugs scumslip here?

I don't see this post

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LOL WTF @bugs WHY DID U SAY U WANT TO CC FRIENDLY NEIGHBOR LMAO. WRONG CHAT???

This. It's a slip from Grandpa right?? or what?? like, bugs never said in here they were gonna cc friendly, sooo I wanna get to the bottom of this

I mean it could be Bug posting in wrong private chat and they're Neighbors with GP?

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LOL WTF @bugs WHY DID U SAY U WANT TO CC FRIENDLY NEIGHBOR LMAO. WRONG CHAT???

This. It's a slip from Grandpa right?? or what?? like, bugs never said in here they were gonna cc friendly, sooo I wanna get to the bottom of this

LOL. Okay calm down calm down. Let me explain now; I just wanted to see pressure/ react test on bugs. Ik Ik it was obviously fake.

Oh ok nvm

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bugs is known to scumslip in their scumgames.

Can confirm

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LOL WTF @bugs WHY DID U SAY U WANT TO CC FRIENDLY NEIGHBOR LMAO. WRONG CHAT???

yes i post as SCUM in day chat saying "wrong chat" smh

Why are you voting Loki, grandpa?

ill explain later when i wake up.

but what do u think bout me townreading u ?

also dont react to anything i said about bugs until im back pls nd thank u

why do u think i said this?

LOL WTF @bugs WHY DID U SAY U WANT TO CC FRIENDLY NEIGHBOR LMAO. WRONG CHAT???

what are you referring to?

why do u think bugs said this? obviously because they were confused to.

seriously andante?

The first one is a good point, it was meant for public chat

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when you entered saying I claimed maf in the hood...

That was a joke and not a test?

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I give up. I want a VC. flow, your vote is counting x2 today, I'm just gonna sheep you (no pressure )

Elaborate why

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So how does this work.

Say I think my partner is scum. What is the strategy here.

I mean if both players are widely suspected it might be okay to claim

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VOTE: rob hjavent paid too much attention to the slot but im down to pressure a semi credible wagon

We have a sheeper and someone who didn't explain their reasoning, how is this credible?

What is the reasoning behind keeping the neighbors secret?

because you would out the FN. FN is the only one who isn't in a neighbor. scum already know 2 ppl that isn't FN... have u read anything of what loki said?

I mean, I feel like odds are real high scum will also know FN, like, say I was FN, I tell you, you say in your hood that I'm FN, both of you know, and if either are scum I'd be dead

but still, lets not out hoods today!! we'll see where we're at tomorrow

Just don't tell your neighbor?

also

@mod- i don't think this was answered

@DkKoba: does the name of a neighbour's neighbour flip in their role pm or not? sorry if this is already covered somewhere

(impacts whether we claim hood partner or not when close to dying. no incentive to do so if we get the info on flip)

Yeah, assuming we don't, I think anyone about to die should claim it.

Agreed

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Flow I am literally putting my vote on any wagon to e2 it because it gets people talking and let's reads happen faster.

Well how does that make it semi credible?

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Vand reread that

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Ok then

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Where is the claim, control+f didn't catch it

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UNVOTE: Robert M Hunter

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Why does GB only have 2 posts

Loki, Anda, & Hop are my TRs from strongest to weakest but will catch up

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I like 633-641 from GPM but not Bug

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claiming hoods isn't actually bad, idk why you imply it is

The value of protecting the confirmed good.

yeah later on i was like oh shit it is, no need to cherrypick outdated posts

People tend to read chronologically

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Only if I SR them after I'm done catching up

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I'm TLing GM

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Does anyone else have a meta clear on hopkirk other than Loki?

I've never played with them

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later nerds VOTE: bugspray

oh...

This is awkward

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I'm TLing GM

Can you tell me why? I really hope bugs is scum because it’s totally anti-town to self-hammer.

I really think their frustration comes from town aggro mode

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if this flips town, I think it's Mo and Flow

Really? Why Flow?

that hesitancy to vote bugs, but not doing anything about actually reading bugs... feels like scum to me

I don't like hammering in general and I didn't find anything new of interest aside from what I've already said

Unless I haven't said what I've thought I said then fair enough

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Unless I haven't said what I've thought I said then fair enough

Yeah ok, I did it again

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I'm never confident on my SRs

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I didn't think it mattered

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I didn't think it mattered

your read on the top SR mattered...

Well, I didn't get to say it before the hammer, so I'm not going to bother

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I was thinking Bugs was scum, but now I'm not too sure

It's easy to get into a "what if this is an exception" mindset on a scumread doing a widely town thing, so I think I'll give them the benefit of the doubt

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Spoiler: Catch Up

Yeah, I don't like that from GM

I just want the flip....

I'm assuming on Bugs?

I just want the flip....

thats what im saying. and been wanting but flip everything i say out of context.

what do u feel bout other ppl? what r ur reads?

I'll give them to my neighbor after the flip. I already voiced, if this is town, flow and mo are scum

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Seriously?

if you say me or anyone I strongly tr, my vote’s going on you.

pretty gross and manipulative. a good post to make if mo and i are both somehow town

While I agree, I’m not going to SR someone for 1 bad action, especially since I’ve been TRing them

I was thinking Bugs was scum, but now I'm not too sure

It's easy to get into a "what if this is an exception" mindset on a scumread doing a widely town thing, so I think I'll give them the benefit of the doubt

Can you talk about when you were thinking bugs was scum?

Was this before or after you declined to vote them?

I didn’t decline to vote for them, I thought they were hammered, I believe I started to SR them at post 356.

UNVOTE:

I don’t trust either bugs or Mo.

I want to kill them both regardless of what the first one flips.

I don’t approve of lining up shots

Self-Reminder to iso GM to confirm something

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VOTE: Bugspray E-1

Fine, they haven't done anything overly towny and we need to progress

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Spoiler: Catch Up

Yeah, I don't like that from GM

I just want the flip....

I'm assuming on Bugs?

I just want the flip....

thats what im saying. and been wanting but flip everything i say out of context.

what do u feel bout other ppl? what r ur reads?

I'll give them to my neighbor after the flip. I already voiced, if this is town, flow and mo are scum

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Seriously?

if you say me or anyone I strongly tr, my vote’s going on you.

pretty gross and manipulative. a good post to make if mo and i are both somehow town

While I agree, I’m not going to SR someone for 1 bad action, especially since I’ve been TRing them

I was thinking Bugs was scum, but now I'm not too sure

It's easy to get into a "what if this is an exception" mindset on a scumread doing a widely town thing, so I think I'll give them the benefit of the doubt

Can you talk about when you were thinking bugs was scum?

Was this before or after you declined to vote them?

I didn’t decline to vote for them, I thought they were hammered, I believe I started to SR them at post 356.

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I don’t trust either bugs or Mo.

I want to kill them both regardless of what the first one flips.

I don’t approve of lining up shots

Self-Reminder to iso GM to confirm something

I didn’t like this post. Shading a slot you claim to tr, then the accusing me of chaining miselims when I really thought bugs was flipping scum and that they and Mo weren’t aligned.

I only know a vague definition of shading, but I do not believe this is shading. If it was shading it was an accident. I cannot shade people on purpose. If I could shade people on purpose, I wouldn't do it because I always get suspected for it. It is NAI for me. This wasn't directed at you. I didn't accuse Vand of chaining miselims, I just don't like lining up shots in general.

About Anda's accusation; I thought Bugs was dead. I do not want to put the effort in for something that is going to be inevitably answered shortly. That is just my mindset.

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VOTE: flow

I actually think grandpa is townier than flow now, just purely based on effort level

This could be very sly
I won't tell you why
I want to see if it's genuine
(Also, I had a busy weekend)

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What is Rxn text?

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Reaction test?

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Okay, tell me who you think is the scumteam. I may already have reasons to doubt that it’s exactly you/Mo but I currently really only have one confident tr and it would be nice to have more.

My (somewhat rushed at the end) pair analysis points to George+Anyone & Robert+GM as the most likely

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Okay, tell me who you think is the scumteam. I may already have reasons to doubt that it’s exactly you/Mo but I currently really only have one confident tr and it would be nice to have more.

My (somewhat rushed at the end) pair analysis points to George+

Anyone

& Robert+GM as the most likely

Robert + GM is impossible and anyone actually reading the game would know this. I really don’t care much for this read. You are basically saying that anyone is likely to be scum here. The fact that you don’t have even a single tr, is extremely worrisome. I don’t think I’m moving my vote.

I almost completely discount TRs in my pair-analysis, so that's not a suitable conclusion

I also discounted Neighbors

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@Flow - why are you reading people the way you are? I can't see any progression of your reads on me or Robert

I have the opposite of confirmation bias where my reads follow my newest factor I'm considering

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is not knowing hoods at this point more likely a genuine town slip or scum trying to fakeslip?

I have a memory disorder so neither

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It's not a memory disorder

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What happened to that tr you had on me @Flow?

Already explained.

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The lack of even a single confident tr is extremely scum indicative.

Already explained.

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And Flow had me as town and today even I am equally likely as anyone in the playerlist to be scum with HEM/GB. I’m having real trouble seeing that kind of post coming from town.

I go by indicators of not being a pair.

There were literally no indicators of not being a pair between you.

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Hi Flow.

Who do you think are the villains in this town?

Let's see

I TR Loki. I TR you (I like the questions).

I want to reread everyone else in more detail now that I have time. From what I remember from the skim, I somewhat TR Vand's opening.

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Remember what I said about having time

I was wrong, how is it so late already