Dogs Vs. Cats Mafia | Endgame

[Firebringer]

Shiro is easier to read later in the game

[Thestatusquo]

VoteCount 1.29

NorwegianboyEE [5]

shiro, flea the magician, toadette, anya, save the dragons

shiro [4]

farkran, andante, norwegianboyee , sircakez

Andante [3]

Nero Cain, dwlee99, kdowns

Kazyan [3]

raya36, brave heart lion, murdercat

Beeboy [3]

pooky, unwnd, kazyan

Save the Dragons [1]

flow trap

raya36 [1]

chara

anya [1]

firebringer

Not Voting [ 3 ]

Beeboy, xofelf, ivyeo

With 24 alive it takes 13 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2021-05-17 20:33:31)

[Save The Dragons]

It’s a crappy bandwagon.

see he posts junk like this

there's nothing wrong with that post, he's right

what's ass about it

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Beeboy

[Firebringer]

My personal feelings of norwee conflict with my read on him and he is safe from my wrath if he is scum today.

[SirCakez]

If Norwee is scum then Fark is scum with him

I stand by this

along this line...
if Norwe flips scum I throw out all my townreads basically

It’s a crappy bandwagon.

see he posts junk like this

there's nothing wrong with that post, he's right

what's ass about it

i didn't say that post was ass? did you mean the Norwe wagon?

[Save The Dragons]

yeah i meant when you referred to the wagon as ass i quoted the wrong post

[SirCakez]

I don't think the reasoning is any good at all and I don't think anyone has explained it
The composition is ok I guess. 2/5 SRs, 1 null and 2 TRs

[SirCakez]

ig it's fine as a pressure wagon but people are talking like they want it to go to elim

[Toadette]

Shiro is easier to read later in the game

We both know this is true, but would you remind us as mafia?

[Kazyan]

These last few pages have done a thing where, like, I have to read through them all to catch up, but I realize that 90% of it leaves no impression (we're playing this like it's over an instant messaging program instead of a forum) and over half of my effort should be digging into xofelf's analysis, not figuring out what Andante and Nero are on about.

[Firebringer]

Shiro is easier to read later in the game

We both know this is true, but would you remind us as mafia?

Probably

[Raya36]

Taking a super quick look at the leading wagons since I don't actually have much for thoughts on a couple.

Norwegian: First content post was voting Andante (which is a wagon I disagree with), second was townreading kazy (which is a townread I disagree with). What was it from xofelf you thought was a dumbtell? Says a blind vote on a rising wagon is concerning although he voted andante blank without caring how many votes were there, and then also blank votes a few posts later. That was already addressed though. I don't really think the pushes he made on Andante are very good. Like the interpretation in 1017. Voted STD for opportunistically joining his wagon (I do think someone mentioned town Norwegian gets defensive like this though). We kind of have the same stance on beeboy.
Shiro: There's not much to say until the readslist. Not that it's necessarily AI, but I do think they genuinely want to participate more. I'd like to see some reasoning on the confident townreads. For the scumreads too.
Andante: I think I've already talked enough about Andante.
Kazyan: I think I've also talked enough about Kazy
Beeboy: Waiting for the replacement would be ideal. I'm just not fully convinced this is scum!beeboy rather than busy and overwhelmed by this massive thread beeboy.

VOTE: norwegian
Gonne move here for a bit

[Nero Cain]

not figuring out what Andante and Nero are on about.

im just asking questions guy

[Raya36]

(Also conclusion on shiro is null but I want to reevaluate after getting town/scum read reasoning)

[Kazyan]

Shiro: There's not much in here, not really. But timezones can really fuck you. I don't really see the people calling this scum though. Feels like a super reach, they're no more scummy than a lot of the other slots that aren't posting much(which sure some of those could be lurking scum) but this doesn't feel like trying to fly under the radar or anything, but rather just trying when the time exists to do so. I don't see it. I do like the readspost they made. I just have a very genuine trying vibe to this slot, not overly compensating or just doing enough to be forgotten. It's all doing what they can manage.

I've been asking for a case on Shiro, but have received nothing. It's odd to me that the wagon appeared of nowhere with nothing obviously (imo) backing it, just a "yeah this seems like a good wagon, why not" vibe, and I think...maybe that's +town for people who jumped onto it? Like, why would scum just look at a wagon based on nothing with 1 or 2 votes and go "this is the least suspicious place to put my vote". We should review the Shiro wagon later.

[SirCakez]

I like that Kaz post

[SirCakez]

Taking a super quick look at the leading wagons since I don't actually have much for thoughts on a couple.

Norwegian: First content post was voting Andante (which is a wagon I disagree with), second was townreading kazy (which is a townread I disagree with). What was it from xofelf you thought was a dumbtell? Says a blind vote on a rising wagon is concerning although he voted andante blank without caring how many votes were there, and then also blank votes a few posts later. That was already addressed though. I don't really think the pushes he made on Andante are very good. Like the interpretation in 1017. Voted STD for opportunistically joining his wagon (I do think someone mentioned town Norwegian gets defensive like this though). We kind of have the same stance on beeboy.

VOTE: norwegian
Gonne move here for a bit

confused how this read and this vote go together considering how waffly the read is

[Save The Dragons]

I don't think the reasoning is any good at all and I don't think anyone has explained it

for me it was mostly a gut read. i don't like his calling me out for voting andante and then voting andante. so i pushed it, and i get a lot of "caught scum" vibes from his posts. maybe he's always like that, i don't know. i'm not sure i care too much about meta, it's more of a tone thing i guess? he's my top scum read at the moment so i'd like to keep pushing, see what we get out of him.

[xofelf]

I agree with Cakez. That feels hella weird. What's up with that, Raya?

[flow trap]

How about your own ridiculously long ISO? That seems like a good use of everybody's time :3

pshhh just ignore my ISO!!! I'll answer any and all questions

Are you not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not scum?

How do you feel about Dwlee?

[flow trap]

VOTE: Beeboy

[xofelf]

Okay Murdercat, you just won The List. Now come back here and give us presents, you have no more excuses >:(

[Raya36]

Taking a super quick look at the leading wagons since I don't actually have much for thoughts on a couple.

Norwegian: First content post was voting Andante (which is a wagon I disagree with), second was townreading kazy (which is a townread I disagree with). What was it from xofelf you thought was a dumbtell? Says a blind vote on a rising wagon is concerning although he voted andante blank without caring how many votes were there, and then also blank votes a few posts later. That was already addressed though. I don't really think the pushes he made on Andante are very good. Like the interpretation in 1017. Voted STD for opportunistically joining his wagon (I do think someone mentioned town Norwegian gets defensive like this though). We kind of have the same stance on beeboy.

VOTE: norwegian
Gonne move here for a bit

confused how this read and this vote go together considering how waffly the read is

To be clear I think Norwegian's push/reasoning on Andante is scummy and him townreading my strongest scumread isn't really helping my view of him. I thought the blank voting thing was weird so I noted it down even though it had already been addressed. I'm still concerned about the OMGUS vote regardless if someone said that's fits his town meta, because idk his meta. I noted the beeboy stance since that's a topic of interest.

[kdowns]

I forgot how important consolidation is in a high playerlist game.
Can’t run an one man show.

Yeah, I've been trying to back off posting in hopes half the people decided they'd want to talk.. kdowns has done nothing but tunnel me.. and that is getting annoying

I mean to be fair. I only do it, because it has been getting a reaction out of you that has been peaking my attention.