DEFCON Mafia 5.0: GAME OVER - NEW AMERICA FORMED

[Equinox]

DeathNote, troop? (or get nuked)

What happened in the intervening 16 minutes that lead you to post to DeathNote (and only to DeathNote) twice?

[Cephrir]

Cephrir what do you think of IV?

although mognet was irritating, ultimately i think his play is more likely to come from town

i don't have too much of an opinion on what iv has done, but i'd wager this is a town flip

[Save The Dragons]

almost want to nuke equinox for calling me inexperienced

I should have clarified that I meant inexperienced with DEFCON. I would have expected mastina to give the rundown on how DEFCON works given that she was in the last one, but many things confuse me in this life.

oh lol in that case yeah i've got no clue what's going on

[The Church of Skitter]

Cephrir you seem like you don't want the nuke to be aborted otherwise you would say so. Why?

[Cephrir]

i've largely accepted that there are going to be a lot of daykills today and i can't control them all, plus et al's argument seems sound to me; i would only argue for a recall if the target was a strong townread

[innocentvillager]

if there is a specific thing that doesn’t take really long to do (like read 20+ pages) that anyone wants my opinion on let me kno tho I can maybe give it a shot

[innocentvillager]

i've largely accepted that there are going to be a lot of daykills today and i can't control them all, plus et al's argument seems sound to me; i would only argue for a recall if the target was a strong townread

agree with this

[The Church of Skitter]

i've largely accepted that there are going to be a lot of daykills today and i can't control them all, plus et al's argument seems sound to me; i would only argue for a recall if the target was a strong townread

I don't think that's what they're saying I think what they said was nukes should be recalled if a lot of people agree that the overall reaction seemed townie

[Cephrir]

i think they were also saying that they shouldn't be recalled *unless* what you're talking about happens, and i don't think it has

[The Church of Skitter]

What part?
The part about people agreeing it's obvtown?
or the part that it's obvtown?

because if it's about the part of people agreeing it's obvtown, then what do you think I'm trying to do here?

[joqiza]

I'm going to need some hardcore convincing to not instantly turn Mognet into a radioactive crater at the earliest opportunity.

Then do it.

If I die for defending a good friend of mine so be it.

I would do it again and again and again.

This btw is defense Titus.

I feel it is defending Mastina’s character here.

We have 80+ pages of content.

RVS is done. We need to progress.

Reading the thread will help we have a scum flip.

You are pushing me though. You’re pushing me to give you free reign to do whatever you want carte Blanche despite scummy behavior because it’s Mother’s Day. Not gonna happen.

I did not discard the meta, I used it but I reached an incorrect conclusion which I can improve from.

I did not miss it, Nexus was frustrated. Pure and simple. It’s NAI.

I am listening. I am waiting for you to answer my fucking questions instead of attacking my play.

If it becomes clear you won’t actually attempt to have reasoning for what you’re doing I have faith when more players come on they can and will elim and wagon you.

I would much rather get the scum you don’t want wagoned but I will take you if I have to compromise.

Why do you want Nexus. You have no reasoning in your ISO.
If wanting you to provide reasoning is why I get elimmed you’re next.
I said you pushed me to let you do as you want and to let you be scummy as fuck because Mother’s Day. I already explained that. Stop bringing up points I already addressed.
I saw your evidence and came to the wrong conclusion. Part of being a moogle.
Yes I am getting in the way of a second day of elims without reason and a popularity contest.
Moogles don’t win those.

I am not playing hero I just want you to provide reasoning.
This town is not solid or weak. We have no idea because we’ve had no wagons.
If I die to make you give reasons for reads so fucking be it.

[SirCakez]

Votecount 3.1

Robert M Hunter (2) - Cephrir, Vaxkiller

Not Voting [17] - Koto, DeathNote, Bell, gorilla, Nexus, samantha97, Toogeloo, The Church of Skitter, innocentvillager, Equinox, Titus, joqiza, Save The Dragons
T3, DeasVail, marry, Robert M Hunter

(expired on 2021-05-28 14:10:00) remain until day end

With 19 players alive, it takes 10 to reach a majority.

Projected Impact Times:
innocentvillager: (expired on 2021-05-16 16:15:00)

[Cephrir]

here's a readlist because i'm procrastinating

Locktown: Bell
Town: STD, gorilla, joqiza
Townish: IV, Vax, Church, marry
IDK: Toog, Equi, DV, T3, Titus, DN
Suspects: Robert, samantha, Koto, Nexus

i don't have good explanations to back up most of this

[Cephrir]

What part?
The part about people agreeing it's obvtown?
or the part that it's obvtown?

because if it's about the part of people agreeing it's obvtown, then what do you think I'm trying to do here?

I see. Yeah, it's not hitting the obvtown threshold for me.

[joqiza]

@nexus give me your thoughts on the posts i quoted

[marry]

i've voodoo'd a word in this game btw and if anyone says it i'm nuking

[The Church of Skitter]

high expectations much?
Shouldn't it just matter if it's honest and just, not scum?

[marry]

i think innocentvillager is town and i also agree that it should not be recalled for the aforementioned reasons. this is my public statement. play ball

[joqiza]

i think it should be recalled

[Cephrir]

high expectations much?
Shouldn't it just matter if it's honest and just, not scum?

i dunno why you have a bee in your bonnet about my opinion on this matter in particular!

[innocentvillager]

actually nexus feels kind of obvtown for not even iso’ing me before nuking? Even when I flip green i don’t think going after nexus is correct

[marry]

i change my mind joqiza says it should be recalled

[innocentvillager]

like what scum in their right mind goes “oh okay I’ll iso you a bit now” after nuking

you’d probably at least want to get a sense of who you’re actually nuking

this feels more like town that was just trigger happy

[The Church of Skitter]

high expectations much?
Shouldn't it just matter if it's honest and just, not scum?

i dunno why you have a bee in your bonnet about my opinion on this matter in particular!

cuz u seem town and u seemed like a person to bounce this idea off of

[joqiza]

actually nexus feels kind of obvtown for not even iso’ing me before nuking? Even when I flip green i don’t think going after nexus is correct

i don't necessarily disagree with you but let's not just let him off the pressure

make him take ownership of his read