DEFCON Mafia 5.0: GAME OVER - NEW AMERICA FORMED

[Titus]

I was more interested in the play part though

There seems nothing memorable about your posts or play with the major wagons.

[innocentvillager]

meh, im still not totally convinced STD is locktown ehre

[innocentvillager]

koto was probably getting nuked anyway at some point and it looks better if you do it as scum especially if you make a big show out of it lol

also no retaliation missile, the afk being faked could be kinda sus for STD

[innocentvillager]

im not saying i think STD is scum at all just throwing it out there because it's my nature to be paranoid of everything

[SirCakez]

Votecount 3.8

DeasVail (2) - Bell, samantha97
Toogeloo (1) - Cephrir
samantha97 (1) - Nexus
Titus (1) - gorilla

Not Voting [10] - Toogeloo, The Church of Skitter, Equinox, joqiza, marry, DeasVail, Titus, innocentvillager, Vaxkiller, Save The Dragons

(expired on 2021-05-28 14:10:00) remain until day end

With 15 players alive, it takes 8 to reach a majority.

Projected Impact Times:
Nexus: (expired on 2021-05-19 00:49:00)

[innocentvillager]

(ignore terrorist)

town:
Bell
Church
joqiza
gorilla

probtown:
Ceph
STD
Toogeloo (? mech right?)
Nexus
marry? maybe? sheeping others here

PoE ish: DeasVail, samantha, Titus, Equinox, Vaxkiller ? hmmm idk

[innocentvillager]

i promise the D2 catch up is coming, im busier than normal this week but it's on my to do list

[gorilla]

gorilla what are your thoughts on Equinox?

My main thoughts were this: I thought his reach-out to mognet looked towny, and that a scumteam with a hydra of players who have played DEFCON before would not be so disorganized. I don't know if that's enough to slot him over other people in my reads right now but I don't think I want him nuked today

[gorilla]

Also regarding samantha, it's somewhat silly but her being paranoid LLD had hardbussed mastina was towny to me because the same thought had crossed my mind.

[Toogeloo]

im not saying i think STD is scum at all just throwing it out there because it's my nature to be paranoid of everything

I think it's generally seen that way by a few people. It's worth a pass today, but it's not something that makes them locktown.

[Vaxkiller]

Also regarding samantha, it's somewhat silly but her being paranoid LLD had hardbussed mastina was towny to me because the same thought had crossed my mind.

I think that thought crossed everyone's mind.

[Titus]

If anyone has a reason for me to recall my nuke, say it now.

If I don't see it after my evening class, it's getting ignored.

[The Church of Skitter]

I'm not being nuked or lynched today.

This reads like you're softing something.

[The Church of Skitter]

I strongly believe that Titus as town and I'm probably one of the best people on the playerlist to read her.

I'm able to read her because I understand what her villager game looks like because I understand what she does and why she does it.

Titus' posting reads to me as extremely natural and I think her posting is very likely to come from her villager game.

Please trust me

[Bell]

Hi.
Please don't ask me to trust you in a game of deception. Ty.

Also, I don't disagree with the read,

[Titus]

Anyone else bothered by Nexus not playing anymore?

[The Church of Skitter]

Cephrir - Has throughout the game just generally been townie
innocentvillager - townie claim
Save the Dragons - Nuked Koto probably not groupscum
Vaxkiller - pushes people in villagery ways
Toogeloo - Has done toogeloo things. Ya know what, I should probably just stop writing him off for no reason and probably read his iso?
Bell - yep villager
gorilla - yep villager
Equinox - I think I re-read this after toogeloo
DeasVail - Seems like a villager? Maybe it's just moreso he just doesn't seem scummy
Nexus - Retracting the nuke was good
Titus - The way they sheeped LLD D1 was villagery for me and I think the way they just to get wagon data is good. They also want The Entity/Equniox. If you had to force me to say who was townier between the two I would say Titus and a lot of that is because of experience w/ Titus but I don't know anything about Equinox aside from "the big post seem fine" and that's not enough anymore I need something better so...
samantha97 - I actually have no idea what Samantha wants to do
joqiza - I mean he sounds smart
marry - Okay I think its worthwhile asking so anyone can pitch in, why is marry town aside from interactions with VFP and VFP pushing marry because that's the only reason for that I can think of off the top of my head to townread her and that just mean's she's not groupscum and even if it's just this 1 fight I don't actually remember it because I haven't actually read it but I'm not sure it's enough to look at and say "oh ya, this it's pretty much impossible for this to be theater"

{Titus, Bell, Gorilla, Toogeloo, Joqiza, IV}
{DeaVail, Vaxkiller, Cephrir}
{Nexus, marry, Equinox}
{Sam}
{STD}

Changes

Cephrir - This is starting to be one of my weaker reads but I still feel very strongly about it because Cephrir has moments that really stand out to me as villagery moments.
STD - Nothing changed with the read, I just go by most town to least town. He's still never groupscum. See, here's the thing. I'm running into just a bit too many townreads. Anyone on the top category I will absolutely never touch, the people in the second category are people I still feel like are town but if things are going seriously fucking wrong then they should be worth reconsidering, the third are weaker townreads. I'm not sure what you want me to do to be quite honest.
toogeloo - Batlteship.
Equinox - I am starting to get it. People feel like the slots interactions with Reck clear them and people don't think that the slot's interactions with Koto's slot wouldn't have happened the way it did if they were scumbuddies and merlot would still probably be in the game. There are also a few other reasons but this is the one that stood out to me, and I think I'm not sure, because I've been scum with Reck before and he was definitely like that to me because he was determined to bus me. Either way, on one hand, OGI, on the other hand, Reck could do it. I'm not sure but I think there are also other reasons I need to look at.

Just a note about Joq: If he's scum and he decided the best way to win this game was to be the smart villager, all power to him. I'll be extremely impressed if he's scum.

[The Church of Skitter]

Anyone else bothered by Nexus not playing anymore?

he reads more salty more than anything but I haven't been giving his posts my fullest attention

[DeasVail]

I'm not confident enough in Nexus being town to intercept Titus' nuke.

In considering every slot of the game, I'm kind of left with Equinox. Vaxkiller and Marry at the bottom of my pile, with no REEEAL good reason to townread them.

I am surprised that Marry is getting more attention. Is there something I missed there? I must admit I haven't fully read the game.

[DeasVail]

Marry is *not getting more attention

[The Church of Skitter]

DeasVail what's your take on marry.
Ya, marry would get more attention when she's been AFK and people are starting to be villagery. If she's a villager she needs to remind everyone why. We're starting to run out of options

[The Church of Skitter]

o wait you just said it

[The Church of Skitter]

I'm really stoned right now I'm sorry I can't read T_T

[Cephrir]

i also am suffering from a lack of options

in particular with your strong townread on titus there is now like no one in the game that isn't get a strong TR from somewhere

[Cephrir]

since i'm essentially out now, i wrote 3116 because i wanted to nuke equinox but then he tried in response and that made me feel bad about doing it