Open 811 - Lovers and Losers (New Game+) [Game Over]

[Anastasia]

So you play anti-town as town? Also so SS is town because... OMGUS?

Also theoretically thats already a hammer.

Why are you pretending to be dense?

SS is town because you're scum.

It has nothing to do with you voting me.

I suspected you since I asked to BoP you days ago.

[Bambi Jay]

I'm using this valuable post to tell you all something important.

The mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell.

Edit: FUXK

[yessiree]

VC 1.28

With 9 votes, it takes 5 to eliminate

Anastasia (4)

- LlamaFluff, VFP, T-Bone, Bambi Jay

T-Bone (3)

- Bingle, RationalMadman, Anastasia

Bambi Jay (1)

- Kerset

Bingle (1)

- Something_Smart

Note Voting -

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-05-25 22:00:00)

[Anastasia]

I'm using this valuable post to tell you all something important.

The mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell.

Edit: FUXK

Never change Bambi <3

[RationalMadman]

This time he is scum but going to get killed because his partner is obtuse.

I am not scum this time and with regards to 'obtuse' that is down to interpretation.

[RationalMadman]

It doesn't really matter at this point, I am very sure it's VFP and Tbone so just get this over with and then vote them.

[Bambi Jay]

If 8 of us say you are obtuse and only the victim disagrees...

You are obtuse.

[Anastasia]

If 8 of us say you are obtuse and only the victim disagrees...

You are obtuse.

Bambi there's only 3 scum in this game.

If 20,000 observers pick wrong and I pick right.

I'm not the obtuse one. The 20,000 people who picked wrong are.

[RationalMadman]

If 8 of us say you are obtuse and only the victim disagrees...

You are obtuse.

@Mod I am genuinely getting sick of this abuse.

Not everyone in the game says I am obtuse and if all of you do, you are still only 8 people.

[RationalMadman]

You had no problem with Kerset telling VFP to vote Bambi and VFP complying though. I don't remember you getting upset about that and calling Kerset scum

Kerset isn't VFP's partner and I still read Bambi as your Goon so really I didn't care, you're correct. I wanted to see if VFP would unvote Bambi the first chance they got and they did.

Hypocrisy to get what you want instead of sincerity. Thank you for being upfront.

Why the fuck would I be sincere when the way someone acts without my interruption will reveal more to me about their alignment?

[RationalMadman]

"Hello VFP, I noticed you only voted Bambi because of Kerset, now please don't unvote Bambi so I can Townread you for doing that."

Is that the sincerity you want? That would be idiotic. It also was a small factor into why I scumread VFP, you are the primary reason I originally scumread VFP as your partner. Since I began to lean-scum on VFP, VFP than deteriorated clinging at anything to scumread what is now suddenly a clear-cut S_S, RM and Ana team in VFP's delusional mind.

This is absolutely hilarious and I have even quoted myself to prove VFP wrong about what I said or didn't say and when precisely I called VFP a scumread of mine.

[RationalMadman]

VFP unvoting Bambi was one of many factors, VFP could have randomly voted Bambi as Town to see reactions too. There'd be no reason to scumread it immediately until seeing what VFP did with the vote's reactions or justified the vote with.

[RationalMadman]

I asked why you didn't read ot to see your response, not to accuse you of being scum purely due to that. Your reaction is terrible.

Well this is a plain lie.
Look at the below discussion

before

you asked why I didn't read.

VFP is an observant player based on what I think of them in a previous game. There is no way Scum VFP didn't read Tbone and Klick describing the Lover PT already, false or not.

Tbone and VFP are scum pair I am quite sure now.

Simply put until now, I had zero read on Klick overall. Now I am getting a scumread on VFP.

I wasn't ignorant of Scum having daytalk. I never said I didn't know or think that. However, the reply VFP gave was attainable with just reading what Klick and Tbone wrote in thus public thread and insinuating that VFP read it without knowing much about it. It doesn't require VFP to use daytalk and ask Tbone for help to know what to say because nothing about the reply implied that happened, if it had been more detailed that may imply it especially with a larger timegap. I believe VFP based the reply on what Klick and Tbone said earlier and still scumread VFP and Tbone.

Nightless actually changes things here.
A lim on the scum lovers day 1 is an automatic win.

I'm going to think on it first then see where I go.

It isn't, there is another mechanical way for scum to win (being the only vanilla left). Why didn't you read the OP fully?

You had me as scum before hand. So again, you are lying here to fit your own narrative.

Do you realise you just proved your theory wrong? You said I scumread you based on that, now you are forced to admit I didn't. This as stupid as it gets.

[Anastasia]

I am fine being mis-elimmed because mis-eliminations happen all the time in mafia.

Statistically speaking it should happen 66% of the time in this setup.

This is one of those. That's perfectly fine with me.

However

I am not fine being mis-elimmed and then being vilified as if it's somehow my fault that I got mis-elimed.

It is not my fault I am the way I am. It is your fault for mis-reading me.

I am not fine with my dying reads being thrown into a bucket to burn as if I didn't even play this game and I'm some kind of obtuse idiot you can just ignore.

Kill T-Bone/VFP after us - you can blame me for being a moron if they somehow flip town. I really really really really doubt they flip town here.

in the VT pool kill Llama, game should be over then.

[RationalMadman]

You didn't play this game though, only Klick played it truly less than you and Klick replaced out.

That said, I don't understand the scumread on you Llama has and the one VFP has on me is based on absolute lies which is fine because VFP and Tbone are going next.

VFP literally quoted me and just admitted how they screwed up big time accusing me of basing my scumread on the question I asked about why they didn't read the alternate win-con. Their quotes unequivocally prove I scumread them before it and regardless of it and that the question was asked in neutrality, to pressure and judge from the answer.

VFP is also lying that I invented a meta. I noticed VFP is very observant as Town, that is 100% accurate meta, it doesn't mean VFP is the polar opposite as scum but perhaps that VFP is less so as Scum if I add it together with my overall scum vibe/read from VFP that I had been developing through from the Bambi vote-unvote behaviour to the willingness to vote Kerset blindly and suddenly scumread S_S to justify an elimination of you and I... VFP's reasoning is not just all over the place it's absolute unequivocal bullshit.

[Anastasia]

I mean we'll see at the end of the game how good my reads are for "not playing the game"

[LlamaFluff]

unvote

I just dont want this to end without one more look through tomorrow.

[Anastasia]

^

This is performative to look better for post-green flip on my slot.

[Something_Smart]

That was my instinct as well.

[LlamaFluff]

So vote me then. If we can get this back in VT pool and end up with a dead SS thats still ideal to me.

[Anastasia]

I would vote you if we were doing VTs but you know we are doing Lovers so I am on T-Bone.

[Anastasia]

I prefer to do VTs but if nobody agrees with me on that I can't really do anything about it

[Something_Smart]

Llama, you're confident Bambi is town?

[LlamaFluff]

Who says we have to? If you think I am more likely scum vote me. I want SS dead. Bambi has been pretty clear they want SS dead over me. Move the wagon if you are confident about it. Otherwise its just more proof of "meta" which you wont back and "I want to sleep on it" is all you have.

Llama, you're confident Bambi is town?

Due to VV I am confident enough to make that move today. They were far and way scummiest person. Its not quite willing to bet the game on it, but I absolutely would be willing to deal with fallout of being wrong on you here.

[Something_Smart]

I absolutely would be willing to deal with fallout of being wrong on you here.

Which is... what? Probably losing the game?