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Post Post #23 (isolation #0) » Fri Jun 04, 2021 6:40 am

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In post 17, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 16, T3 wrote:I should have inned for this on an alt. That way no one will know that I am behind them with a bloodstained knife.
I would love someone to be a bodyguard for me! You'll kill anyone that tries to hurt me because you'll stab me in the back and face!
Same here. I keep having nightmares about there being big burly men in my back yard :shifty:
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Post Post #49 (isolation #1) » Fri Jun 04, 2021 7:34 pm

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In post 42, bugspray wrote:but that's a weird thing to do because thats the opposite of what scum should want to do
Yeah exactly.
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Post Post #62 (isolation #2) » Sat Jun 05, 2021 3:12 am

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In post 53, bugspray wrote:
In post 49, Egix96 wrote:
In post 42, bugspray wrote:but that's a weird thing to do because thats the opposite of what scum should want to do
Yeah exactly.
yeet me d1 again i fucking dare u
Well, the gambler's fallacy says you've gotta be town this time........ riiiiiight???
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Post Post #99 (isolation #3) » Sat Jun 05, 2021 9:53 pm

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In post 85, cw357 wrote:ill do RQS in a few hours
Don't bother. RQS is a scumtell anyway :roll:
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Post Post #100 (isolation #4) » Sat Jun 05, 2021 9:55 pm

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In post 94, Roden wrote:It's entirely possible he was given more information and is waiting to share it at a more optimal time. Or, he might need to survive more rounds to gain more information. I don't think it would be hard to verify him as a Miller either.
I'm pretty sure that's not how Informed works. You get your information either along with your role, or on a specific night.
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Post Post #104 (isolation #5) » Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:09 pm

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I meant I don't think it's possible to already know something from the start of the game AND receive more info later on.
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Post Post #193 (isolation #6) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 6:33 pm

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VOTE: excallq

Shrug. Game is in the doldrums.
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Post Post #255 (isolation #7) » Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:18 pm

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In post 245, Jake The Wolfie wrote:I think Roden is likely to be Town here. Their mindset seems to be very town-oriented and in good faith, especially in post 240.
Yeah. I really don't get why Titus just jumped on him there.
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Post Post #289 (isolation #8) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 7:37 am

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In post 259, DrippingGoofball wrote:Does that make miller a great claim for scum to hide behind? Yes/no
Only if they know there isn't a real miller.
In post 284, Rannygazoo wrote:Cw was prodded six times in our last game.
How does that even happen... I thought it was a three-strike system?
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Post Post #362 (isolation #9) » Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:53 am

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In post 353, cw357 wrote:oh shit this is a closed setup
What does that have to do with anything?
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Post Post #364 (isolation #10) » Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:56 am

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In post 359, geraintm wrote:
In post 356, cw357 wrote:ig i might claim but this is ridiculous and ur sheeping ranny too much
This sort of post isn't going to help right now. Delaying a claim so you can confer in your private thread isn't a good look
I will say, I think this is the most proactive I've seen you be on Day 1. I'm hesitant on whether I should judge your alignment from that though.
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Post Post #391 (isolation #11) » Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:46 pm

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In post 387, Jessica Rabbit wrote:
In post 380, cw357 wrote:town loyal doctor
In post 381, cw357 wrote:im a doctor but doc action only works if i target town
This claim is believable, it doesn’t look like something scum would fakeclaim.
Perhaps so, but I have a feeling a doctor might not be very useful this game.
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Post Post #392 (isolation #12) » Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:51 pm

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What changed your mind about Titus, geraint?
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Post Post #410 (isolation #13) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:03 am

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In post 403, VFP wrote:
In post 398, Jake The Wolfie wrote:How would a Doctor be helpful if T3 is town?
Because T3 told us that there's a macho.
Scum want to get Macho over Doc, so if doc hits right then a town life is saved, including PRs.

The threat here to scum is the Macho plus a plausible vig, not the Doc.
The annoyance to scum here is the Doc.
I'm not taking for granted that we might have a vig, since personally I see no indication of one.
Also, strongman might be a possibility.
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Post Post #512 (isolation #14) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:59 pm

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In post 442, Roden wrote:
If I wasn't so tunneled on DGB right now, and if I was more liable to make OMGUS votes, I'd probably jump on the Excall wagon
. His line of posts doesn't look good and relies on a situation he essentially made up in his head to make work.

If you think I'm scum buddies with Ranny, I'd rather you just make a case than plant seeds for Day 2.
Rannygazoo wrote:That’s me, perpetual exasperated townie
I genuinely do believe this
???
This just seems like a really weird thing to say.
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Post Post #513 (isolation #15) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:04 pm

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In post 456, Jessica Rabbit wrote:
In post 447, Roden wrote:Then vote me and get a wagon going. See if you can get me to reveal if I have a PR or not. If you're not intent on doing this, then I'm comfortable in believing you just want to plant seeds for Day 2.

You're also blatantly trying to get around the fact you fucked up with the scum vs scum claim. If you could honestly deny it, a townie absolutely would by now. Or at the very least, a townie would admit they made a mistake. Why do you keep trying to talk around it?
Yeah, their recent posts seemed to be very superficial takes and I agree with the planting seeds thing. I think they don’t actually believe any of the nonsence they’ve been spewing. They only shaded me AFTER I expressed suspicions on them and when confronted they just double downed on their nonsense shade and made zero attempt to explain it.

I think I feel good with my vote.
To last sentence: same here.
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Post Post #514 (isolation #16) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:11 pm

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In post 473, Titus wrote:
In post 416, cw357 wrote:
In post 383, Titus wrote:Loyal is the correct modifier.
maybe we're both wolves


could titus be telling me that to in essence pocket me or whatever
like trying to work into the townclears

it would be a big-brain strategy but not necessarily too far-fetched

i wouldn't mind the idea of the vig targeting titus and ill doc so that kill doesnt go through
although if vig is fakeclaiming it could get screwed up
I really don't get why stating something based off years of experience has been all this AI. Feels like I'm being pocketed.

That would make it odd to pocket me unless I might be the decider and one of the wagons might be on scum.
Yeah, that was what I wasn't getting.
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Post Post #556 (isolation #17) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 7:09 am

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In post 549, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 85, cw357 wrote:ill do RQS
VOTE: cw357

Eliminate this
He's a claimed doctor :roll:

VOTE: NotMafia

Boom, gottem.
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Post Post #557 (isolation #18) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 7:09 am

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What were you actually?
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Post Post #561 (isolation #19) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 7:11 am

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In post 559, Not_Mafia wrote:^Scum quickhammer, I would know
Bzzzt. I was already voting your slot! :wink:
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Post Post #630 (isolation #20) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:16 am

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In post 606, Roden wrote:And why was Excall making those weird plays if he was Town the whole time?
People do questionable stuff as town all the time. Usually it's best to just accept that it happened and move on.
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Post Post #631 (isolation #21) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:32 am

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In post 627, geraintm wrote:not much to say until everyone of interest says what happened....
We probably shouldn't yeet KA. That's my nugget of wisdom for today.
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Post Post #701 (isolation #22) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:22 pm

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In post 684, Roden wrote:KA if you believe Geraint is scum, then I'm down to vote him.

VOTE: Geraint
What? Based on what you wrote in your previous post, it doesn't make sense to me for you to do this.
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Post Post #702 (isolation #23) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:37 pm

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In post 683, Roden wrote:Interesting summary KA. Well mainly just condescending and desperate to appear funny and charismatic, but still interesting.
(1)
I think you accidentally exposed yourself though.

-Why did you bring up the "Gotcha!" attempt from DGB and Excall even though it was already settled? In fact, why did you ignore the fact check that came afterward? Why put this random suspicion on Jake?

-Why misinterpret what I said about Jessica? She didn't interact with her TRs, and my post was in response to a question about people scum reading her anyway.

-If you think Jake vs DGB isn't town vs town then why aren't either in your scum pool?
(2)
And why the hell is
Geraint
of all people in your scum pool instead if you barely even mentioned him?

-Geraint in general is an interesting choice for your scum pool. Your slot scum read him as well, but also backed off a few posts later and stopped pressuring him when other players began to do so.
(3)
You're doing something similar, as you're scum reading him but giving zero reason why and putting zero pressure on him. Why is this?
In post 684, Roden wrote:KA if you believe Geraint is scum, then I'm down to vote him.

VOTE: Geraint
(1) You imply that KidAmn scumslipped.
(2) You don't even know why KidAmn suspects Geraint.
(3) By voting someone other than Amn, you are not practising what you preach.

I'm very surprised that out of T3, Jake, and DGB, none of them seemed to notice.
VOTE: Roden
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Post Post #704 (isolation #24) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:46 pm

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In post 703, Roden wrote:What strikes you as scummy about that?
If you think he's scum, why try to work with him?
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Post Post #713 (isolation #25) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:49 am

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In post 705, Roden wrote:What makes you think I'm trying to work with him?

Why aren't you questioning KA's summary, actually? Why is my vote odd but KA's scum read on Geraint isn't?
- I mean "working with" in the sense of "helping out". As in, making it easier for Amn to push geraint if he wants to.

- Admittedly I hadn't yet had a good opportunity to sit down and parse Amn's catchup. Only just now I have, but the issues I can see are no different from those already pointed out by you.

- The difference is that Amn's read at least makes some sense, based on what little is included about him (e.g. the response to ).
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Post Post #714 (isolation #26) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:56 am

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Btw, if "sfumato" and "chiaroscuro" are words from another language, an explanation of what they mean is probably needed.
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Post Post #725 (isolation #27) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:16 am

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In post 724, KidAmn wrote:
In post 717, Titus wrote:
In post 714, Egix96 wrote:Btw, if "sfumato" and "chiaroscuro" are words from another language, an explanation of what they mean is probably needed.
Right. Agreed here.
sfumato
is subtle, soft gradation between light and shadow in painting;
chiaroscuro
is the opposite: stark contrast and clear, bold divides between the two.
So the analogy is that CW not dying is more subtle than blatant? Is it just that?
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Post Post #726 (isolation #28) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:19 am

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Personally I'm not sure what to make of VFP. I like but dislike .
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Post Post #778 (isolation #29) » Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:35 pm

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In post 770, DrippingGoofball wrote:Thirty-five hours is a prod dodge?

Sometimes I visit the thread and decide there isn't much to say.
Relatable.
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Post Post #779 (isolation #30) » Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:38 pm

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In post 776, T3 wrote:I think Roden is town.
Sigh yeah you're probably right.

VOTE: Kidamn

But if this vote flips town, I will not be happy.
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Post Post #785 (isolation #31) » Sun Jun 20, 2021 4:06 am

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In post 783, KidAmn wrote:I'm nothing special, apart from the fact I'm a neighbour with someone who should know better.
All you've done since your initial catch-up is responding to questions, so I really don't get the impression that you are being proactive here.

Have any of your thoughts changed since you did your catchup walls? I'm not really seeing any indication of that, and I find that concerning.
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Post Post #836 (isolation #32) » Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:02 pm

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In post 819, DrippingGoofball wrote:I apologize for yesterday's hammer, it was not intentional.
You acknowledged that KA had claimed, and that Jake had stated an FoS, so I really don't get how you weren't aware that he was close to maj.

Like, I would say it's a scum claim, but then there's the whole argument of why scum would just out themselves like that.
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Post Post #853 (isolation #33) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 3:58 am

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In post 849, T3 wrote:I have a theory. Now I know the last time I said this we ended up limming the doctor but I have a theory.
All the other prs out today.
The cop claims vt,the outs tomorrow.
The cop will most likely have used both of their shots by now, so how does this help? Wouldn't it just make us risk losing the peeks?
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Post Post #869 (isolation #34) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 9:49 am

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In post 867, Jake The Wolfie wrote:I think T3's plan, if scum, would be a refuge in audacity. Why would scum make such a bold claim? To make you doubt that they are scum.
At this point, yeah, it seems like he's trying to buy himself another day.
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Post Post #934 (isolation #35) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 7:05 pm

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In post 893, Rannygazoo wrote:Hey, I just remembered something.
In post 631, Egix96 wrote:
In post 627, geraintm wrote:not much to say until everyone of interest says what happened....
We probably shouldn't yeet KA. That's my nugget of wisdom for today.
Why this and then the reversal at the end of day 2 without even a comment?
Roden's posts improved after I voted him, KA was underwhelming, and I felt that T3 was town from having skimmed his iso the previous day (rl time).
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Post Post #935 (isolation #36) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 7:08 pm

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In post 904, T3 wrote:I'm vt.

Looking back on it that was a stupid gambit.
Well yeah, that's all you can say now.
But a real VT would have no reason to claim informed when they're not, especially when it could screw up setup spec.
Intent to vote T3.
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Post Post #937 (isolation #37) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 7:19 pm

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Whenever I neighbour-ise someone, I find out whether they are strongman or not. It's why I made references to strongmen a couple times.
Jake is my new neighbour, and he is not a strongman.
I know I took a huge gamble regarding KA and it didn't pay off. If that gets me autoyeeted then I'm sorry.
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Post Post #938 (isolation #38) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 7:19 pm

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In post 936, Roden wrote:Egix, we know you've read the thread. Please respond to the speculation around your role.
You said that just when I was about to hit send :roll:
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Post Post #942 (isolation #39) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 7:28 pm

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In post 940, Roden wrote:Jake hasn't mentioned anything about getting Neighborized though? Actually, he stated his role made a Neighborizer unlikely to begin with.
He is definitely in there though. There's just no day talk.
If you're referring to when Jake voted KA, then that was before I targeted him.
Other scum are probably in Goofball, Titus, and geraint, but I'm not super confident on that.
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Post Post #945 (isolation #40) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 7:36 pm

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In post 690, DrippingGoofball wrote:Oh wait now I remembered he claimed informed miller. Never mind. I'm on crack.
Thonk.
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Post Post #946 (isolation #41) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 7:38 pm

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In post 943, Rannygazoo wrote:Skimming Jake’s iso, he is a lot more willing to believe in neighbors today. It checks out.

Why were you looking for strongmen in particular? If it’s a mechanical thing, please tell us the full name of your role.
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Post Post #951 (isolation #42) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 7:56 pm

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Actually never mind about Titus, I just looked at her again and she's quite probably not scum with T3 based on her treatment of him.
Is anyone who townreads Ranny able to explain why they do? Thinking twice about it, it's a bit weird that he insisted I clarify myself when T3 was practically outed either way.
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Post Post #970 (isolation #43) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 10:35 pm

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In post 952, Roden wrote:
In post 946, Egix96 wrote:
In post 943, Rannygazoo wrote:Skimming Jake’s iso, he is a lot more willing to believe in neighbors today. It checks out.

Why were you looking for strongmen in particular? If it’s a mechanical thing, please tell us the full name of your role.
Combined Neighborizer Strongman Finder
I'm a bit on the fence about believing this since it's a really weird combination, but if you're telling the truth then this actually explains a lot. Jessica died even though the Doctor supposedly targeted her because scum have a Strongman. CW's slot likely died on Day 2 because the possibility of a Strongman came up to explain the NK, and the WIFOM around the slot wasn't really working anymore.
They might only be an X-shot as well and had no choice but to get rid of the Doctor.


If all of this is true, you're essentially a makeshift Cop, Egix. You can really only find one scum, but that's still really powerful if you can guess right.
Bolded part was my first impression, yeah.
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Post Post #986 (isolation #44) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:12 am

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In post 984, T3 wrote:True :/
So we have a
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Vig Masons

And Neghborizer as the pr claims
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Post Post #987 (isolation #45) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:24 am

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Spoiler:
In post 193, Egix96 wrote:VOTE: excallq

Shrug. Game is in the doldrums.
In post 397, VFP wrote:
In post 391, Egix96 wrote:Perhaps so, but I have a feeling a doctor might not be very useful this game.
No, doctor is going to be extremely helpful this game if T3 is town.

But I can do VOTE: Excall

I'm not feeling like DGB as scum right now so I'd rather away from that.
In post 702, Egix96 wrote:
In post 683, Roden wrote:Interesting summary KA. Well mainly just condescending and desperate to appear funny and charismatic, but still interesting.
(1)
I think you accidentally exposed yourself though.

-Why did you bring up the "Gotcha!" attempt from DGB and Excall even though it was already settled? In fact, why did you ignore the fact check that came afterward? Why put this random suspicion on Jake?

-Why misinterpret what I said about Jessica? She didn't interact with her TRs, and my post was in response to a question about people scum reading her anyway.

-If you think Jake vs DGB isn't town vs town then why aren't either in your scum pool?
(2)
And why the hell is
Geraint
of all people in your scum pool instead if you barely even mentioned him?

-Geraint in general is an interesting choice for your scum pool. Your slot scum read him as well, but also backed off a few posts later and stopped pressuring him when other players began to do so.
(3)
You're doing something similar, as you're scum reading him but giving zero reason why and putting zero pressure on him. Why is this?
In post 684, Roden wrote:KA if you believe Geraint is scum, then I'm down to vote him.

VOTE: Geraint
(1) You imply that KidAmn scumslipped.
(2) You don't even know why KidAmn suspects Geraint.
(3) By voting someone other than Amn, you are not practising what you preach.

I'm very surprised that out of T3, Jake, and DGB, none of them seemed to notice.
VOTE: Roden
In post 708, VFP wrote:VOTE: Rodrn

I'm not against a Gera vote but I think Roden has a better chance of flipping red.
I also don't really want T3 to be the lim.
In post 779, Egix96 wrote:
In post 776, T3 wrote:I think Roden is town.
Sigh yeah you're probably right.

VOTE: Kidamn

But if this vote flips town, I will not be happy.
In post 782, VFP wrote:Weekend stuff.

VOTE: Kidamn

Thats E1

looks to be lining up T3 if KA is town? Scum flip probably paints Egix as town though.
But it's about time we got some pressure going.


You keep following my votes, and yet try to pin it on me?
I'm really not liking that, especially while re-reading under the assumption that T3 is scum.
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Post Post #1023 (isolation #46) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:41 am

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In post 999, Rannygazoo wrote:Part of me wants to
trust Roden’s mechanical clear of DGB
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This and are the only reasons I'm not yet voting. Though to clarify, the power of my role lies in strongman-finding, not neighbour-making.
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Post Post #1025 (isolation #47) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:53 am

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In post 1024, Titus wrote:
In post 1023, Egix96 wrote:
In post 999, Rannygazoo wrote:Part of me wants to
trust Roden’s mechanical clear of DGB
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This and are the only reasons I'm not yet voting. Though to clarify, the power of my role lies in strongman-finding, not neighbour-making.
How does a neighborizer find a strongman?
I'm combined with Strongman Finder. I said this before.

Another thing I've just realised: the hood didn't have day talk before, but now that I've added VFP, it does now. What could have caused that?
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Post Post #1057 (isolation #48) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 6:39 pm

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In post 1054, Rannygazoo wrote:Egix, why did you neighborize VFP? Whose idea was it, and how much did you discuss it?
Jake suggested targeting VFP so that scum couldn't sever the link between us by killing Jake.
Later on, Jake told me that they had discussed with VFP, and that they had agreed that I should target the latter.
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Post Post #1073 (isolation #49) » Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:58 pm

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In post 954, Roden wrote:Fuck it, time to claim.

I'm a Jack of All Trades, but I won't yet say all of my abilities. This is why I played so chaotically, at least on Day 1. I needed a way to keep myself alive and I figured if I made myself a potential scapegoat for scum, they wouldn't target me. This is also why I picked a few fights, I wanted to see who'd bite so I'd have a better idea of who to Cop check.

On Night 1 I investigated Ranny using my Cop check, who came back as
Innocent
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On Night 2, I used my Vig shot on DGB, because of course I'm going to after literally everything that happened. Seeing as the CW slot is now confirmed as a Town Loyal Doctor, I think it's safe to assume the replacement player read the situation and figured if we had a Vig, then they're most likely to shoot DGB after the hammer. So I'm confident DGB is now Town.

Scum could have a galaxy brain and somehow know I had a bullet and that I was going to shoot Night 2 and Roleblocked me, but at this point they're more likely to think
I'm
the Traitor after causing so many disruptions and just generally being really bad at the game. Though if we have a Jailkeeper then they need to speak up if they jailed me or DGB.

Idk if I can prove my role since nothing affected the game, but Ranny and DGB are both confirmed town for me.
It's talking about this post. The "sabotage" from Dgb is it dropping the hammer before the doctor slot could be replaced, leaving us with no hint as to whom the doc could have targeted.
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Post Post #1089 (isolation #50) » Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:12 am

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In post 1077, geraintm wrote:do you doubt my logic on why Titus is scum, with the hanging vote on VFP that never got finished off?
All it proves is that there is at least one scum in {Titus, VFP}.
The dilemma for me is whether or not the masons are real, because that determines whether the scum team is {geraint, Titus, DGB} or {Jake, VFP, [one from the previous grouping]}.
In post 1079, Rannygazoo wrote:It’s hard for scum to coordinate three quick votes without day talk, but it would appear that Titus and VFP have opposite alignments.

If VFP is scum encryptor, then they do have day talk, but then of course they won’t be voting VFP.
I agree that this makes Titus less likely to be the third member in the fake-masons world. But what I'm curious about is why VFP hasn't voted her back yet.
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Post Post #1126 (isolation #51) » Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:46 am

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In post 1112, Rannygazoo wrote:Has anyone played with A50? Do they tend to prefer logical plays or moonshot intuitive plays?
In my experience, A50 has a very eccentric, hard-to-read playstyle, so I would say the second option seeing as it's definitely not the first.
In post 1117, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Geraintm, you were actively bringing the game to a halt because one player wasn't present, and now they're dead.
The issue I have with this is that geraint quite openly didn't want the day to end prematurely, so the fault lies with those who ignored him, not geraint himself.
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Post Post #1138 (isolation #52) » Tue Jun 29, 2021 7:16 am

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In post 1131, Rannygazoo wrote:
In post 1057, Egix96 wrote:
In post 1054, Rannygazoo wrote:Egix, why did you neighborize VFP? Whose idea was it, and how much did you discuss it?
Jake suggested targeting VFP so that scum couldn't sever the link between us by killing Jake.
Later on, Jake told me that they had discussed with VFP, and that they had agreed that I should target the latter.
Could Jake have been steering Egix away from a strongman?
I would've targeted Titus were it not for Jake's suggestion, so yeah, there is that.
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Post Post #1141 (isolation #53) » Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:17 am

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In post 1140, Rannygazoo wrote:
In post 1138, Egix96 wrote:I would've targeted Titus were it not for Jake's suggestion, so yeah, there is that.
That’s interesting. Did you tell Jake you were going to target Titus before he suggested that?

Another question:
In post 1023, Egix96 wrote:the power of my role lies in strongman-finding, not neighbour-making.
Why go along with neighborizing VFP and missing a chance to find the strongman?
- Yes, I did.
- Because Jake had shown me his crumb, I Occam's Razored the claim as being true. So with the exact scum team being revealed under that presumption, as well as the doc already being dead, would finding the strongman really have mattered?
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Post Post #1172 (isolation #54) » Tue Jun 29, 2021 7:08 pm

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In post 1156, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1152, Titus wrote:
In post 1146, DrippingGoofball wrote:I really don't know what to think.

The scum is winning for a reason: they're good at it.
If you had to vote, who would it be for?
I want to sheep Rannygazoo.
In post 1157, DrippingGoofball wrote:Ranny, is it possible for there not to be any masons?
:roll:

Ranny, please don't vote yet. Once I can be at my computer this afternoon, I will give the game a once-over.
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Post Post #1173 (isolation #55) » Tue Jun 29, 2021 7:19 pm

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In hood, VFP tells me that Titus is playing to her scum meta, and that Geraint is active lurking, purposefully waiting a day so that Ranny votes first.
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Post Post #1176 (isolation #56) » Tue Jun 29, 2021 7:34 pm

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Well, uh, speak of the devil, I guess?
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Post Post #1179 (isolation #57) » Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:31 pm

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I didn't mean it like that, sorry. It's just a figure of speech.
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Post Post #1187 (isolation #58) » Wed Jun 30, 2021 2:55 am

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Spoiler:
In post 258, Jessica Rabbit wrote:I like egix, jake and vfp the most rn. I didn’t really like DGB’s wanted to lim T3 based on the miller claim. You should only lim a miller claim for the same reasons as anyone else - because you actually think they’re scum and it seemed to me that DGB’s sole reason for pushing T3 was the claim. If she gave other reasons for this, I don’t recall.
In post 327, Jessica Rabbit wrote:
In post 324, Rannygazoo wrote:To add to ^, I'm townreading most of the active players, so by PoE, scum must be among the players that I don't notice as much.
Which read are you disagreeing with? I said I liked them the most. It’s obviously not a hardread but egix and especially VFP seem pretty townie. Are you going to explain why you have an issue with this and are you ever planning to respond to any of my questions?
In post 522, Jessica Rabbit wrote:
In post 519, Titus wrote:
In post 515, T3 wrote:Tr on jessica for now, her points about cw I agree with. Titus fails to mention that there is no town motivation behind dgb still not believing cw so I think I'll keep my vote there.

I got my second shot yesterday and as a result of it my JIA is acting up again so I'm just stuck on the couch feeling like shit on the first day of sumer break :(
I literally just mentioned the town motivation. There's no way you're this dense.
VFP and T3 are currently my strongest townreads. I believed T3’s claim because I think he’s probably town irrespective of it.

With cw, I believe the claim based on what he said about his role but probably wouldn’t be tr him otherwise.


I'm still working on the rest of the D1 posts, but the one big thing that stands out to me so far is that Jessica, the N1 kill, consistently townread VFP.
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Post Post #1189 (isolation #59) » Wed Jun 30, 2021 3:10 am

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In post 411, VFP wrote:
In post 410, Egix96 wrote:I'm not taking for granted that we might have a vig, since personally I see no indication of one.
Also, strongman might be a possibility.
So this is the problem with no vig and a loyal doctor.
Why is the doctor loyal? This is a normal so no re direct or bus fuckery.
If just a scum doc, then why if there's already a macho cop?

It's not set, but it's very plausible if cw is doc regardless of alignment.
In post 422, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 401, Rannygazoo wrote:
In post 398, Jake The Wolfie wrote:How would a Doctor be helpful if T3 is town?
Cw can heal T3 and vig can shoot T3 to verify town alignment

Of course, T3 just dies if cw is lying or is roleblocked

There’s your daily does of IIOA
And why would we assume there is a vigilante?
This is just filled with holes.
Admittedly though, I'm finding it hard to wrap my head around the masons not agreeing here.
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Post Post #1192 (isolation #60) » Wed Jun 30, 2021 3:40 am

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In post 1191, Jake The Wolfie wrote:It is possible, and indeed plausible, that two town players can disagree with eachother. That's partly how misexecutions happen.
But that's usually when they don't know each other's alignments. It's just something that made me thonk.
I need a break anyway.
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Post Post #1234 (isolation #61) » Wed Jun 30, 2021 6:58 pm

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Not gonna be properly on for a couple more hours yet, but I acknowledge all recent posts.
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Post Post #1241 (isolation #62) » Thu Jul 01, 2021 5:16 am

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In post 1240, DrippingGoofball wrote:Let's kill Egix then.
You're joking, right?
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Post Post #1245 (isolation #63) » Thu Jul 01, 2021 8:44 am

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This is me not voting
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Post Post #1249 (isolation #64) » Thu Jul 01, 2021 9:48 am

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In post 1248, Rannygazoo wrote:UNVOTE:
Egix, to help us decide between Titus and Gera if it comes to that, please tell us more about what Jake said when you suggested bringing Titus into the hood.

Ok, I’m out. You can sort the rest of the day out yourselves.
It went something like this:

Jake: Why choose her? VFP hasn't said anything yet, but I think they would say to target either them or Ranny.

Me: I was trying to get a peek of who I felt was strongman. The problem with trying to add Ranny is that they might get nightkilled, but I'm fine with VFP.

Jake: Thing is, scum can only kill one person at a time, so it's gonna be either Ranny or Roden. I'm fine with adding VFP but we could go for the riskier options.

Jake, later on: VFP says you should add them, and I agree. We also decided to push geraint. It was mostly random, but I liked the way VFP put it.

Me: Okay, I'll do that then.
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Post Post #1300 (isolation #65) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:55 pm

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In post 1295, Titus wrote:Egix, you and I both know your ability worked.

So you can confirm I'm not a strongwoman.
Yes, that's right.
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Post Post #1324 (isolation #66) » Sun Jul 04, 2021 9:26 am

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In post 1321, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1308, Titus wrote:
In post 1307, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1301, Titus wrote:Interesting. I expected Egix to lie there. I had a whole case prepared in my notes PT with the assumption he would lie today.

Now, I am just going to sleep on things instead.
Can't Egix be scum anyway?
He can be but given he didn't lie, as I expected him to, he deserves a second look.
Egix was cornered into not lying, that's zero towncred from me.

I can't shake off how odd it was for the fake masons to claim to have strongly trusted Egix, giving no evidence, and expecting us all to go along with it, feeling they could use their masoncred to push a fake masons/Egix townblock to POE all the actual townies.
It's because Jake tried to use me as a pawn. They were probably hoping that I would just blindly trust the fake mason claim and snap vote as soon as the day opened.
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Post Post #1363 (isolation #67) » Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:46 pm

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In post 1329, Titus wrote:Ok. DGB, do you have any comment on my theories or anything else you wish to say?

I think I am done unless a new revelation comes out. If no one pushes the game forward in 48 hours, I'll vote.

I get the feeling scum have a plan here (night phase was too long) but I don't think we can mechanically outsmart them.
I don't think there's much point in theorising and speculating until Jake's role is dead and flipped.
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Post Post #1364 (isolation #68) » Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:49 pm

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In post 1335, Titus wrote:
In post 1333, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 924, T3 wrote:
In post 923, Titus wrote:
In post 921, T3 wrote:Egix is, in effect confirmed scum neighborizer by the KA vote.
Explain this.
Masons + neighborizer who neighborized ka and then votes him.
Can we re-visit this? What does this mean with the additional information we have?
Well we know T3 was likely genuine in his suspicion of Egix. However, his suspicion appears to come from believing the masons no?
He thought Jake was Masons with Ranny because of a joke post...
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Post Post #1365 (isolation #69) » Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:51 pm

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In post 1353, DrippingGoofball wrote:Egix neighborized both scums? Who were pretending to be masons?

I believe Egix is the last scum.
Personally I think that's ludicrous, but dream on...
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Post Post #1427 (isolation #70) » Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:29 am

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Good game, all! Killing me there was a really smart move, actually.
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Post Post #1467 (isolation #71) » Wed Jul 07, 2021 2:30 am

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In post 1439, Titus wrote:@Egix, why in tarnations did you target DGB when mechanically she could not be a strongman?
200IQ strat. I figured out that you were scum and there was no strongman. I was hoping that you would kill geraint, thus confirming me as town since I couldn't have neighbourised DGB simultaneously.

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