Open 816: C9++ || Game Over

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

cakes’ vote on heaven was bad

- lilith

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

To elaborate: he voted heaven at a time when it seemed like multiple people were arguing with and starting to push heaven. It feels like a vote that’s meant to take advantage of that momentum rather than solve for heaven’s alignment.

- lilith

[Tigerente]

if any of the cakez voters are willing to elaborate on why they're voting him, that'd be grand

Him saying my post pushing a wagon on Tigerente was "forced conviction" when it was not meant to be taken seriously felt weird. Like he was trying to say something because he had to not because he believed it mattered.

i mean it felt quasi-serious to me as well ...

i am Skeptical on pooky's dwlee read

~ skitteR

[Dwlee99]

if any of the cakez voters are willing to elaborate on why they're voting him, that'd be grand

Him saying my post pushing a wagon on Tigerente was "forced conviction" when it was not meant to be taken seriously felt weird. Like he was trying to say something because he had to not because he believed it mattered.

i mean it felt quasi-serious to me as well ...

i am Skeptical on pooky's dwlee read

~ skitteR

I think you should have voted someone but I don't think you're evil for having not. I thought it was pretty clearly not serious given my first reason is a reference to your profile picture.

[Tigerente]

follow up : also if it's out of character in general, this *could* mean he's an SK, but doesn't specifically edges towards him being maf

also this isn't ooc for him: as town he's always going on abt mechanical speculation, and he does the same as scum
hence, utterly nai

i think using 3-year old meta of him doing this in a scum game once to call him scummy here is silly when i can pull up towngames where he did the same

~ skitteR

[Tigerente]

i mean ok i read it wrong apparently and it wasn't meant to be serious, but i did read it that way, and i can understand why others would as well

[Dwlee99]

Okay but Cakez's post was bad anyway.

[Dwlee99]

How do you feel about Kerset?

[Tigerente]

don't like his a50 push but i don't know if that makes him scum

[Dwlee99]

Okay so who is evil?

[Tigerente]

i don't know yet
i'm still ok with my vote on u, although i am mentally awarding you townpoints for this convo

~ skitteR

[Datisi]

To elaborate: he voted heaven at a time when it seemed like multiple people were arguing with and starting to push heaven. It feels like a vote that’s meant to take advantage of that momentum rather than solve for heaven’s alignment.

- lilith

sorry, what? at the time cakez voted heaven, i was the only person arguing with them, and i had already moved my vote onto dwlee prior to that. who was pushing heaven at that time?

[Datisi]

skitter, how do you feel about the fact that pooky included you in his solve?

[Gamma Emerald]

Soo I'm just the odd person out then right? Are you all familiar with another? I got that impression when Almost50 responded to me about how he couldn't read Datisi.

Only other minor blind spot for me is bjork I think

[Tigerente]

don't really like it but:
a) i'm not sure how serious that actually was
b) if serious i don't think that scum-him antagonizes me
c) i don't feel like making a big thing abt it right now

honestly it's uncharacteristic of him as either alignment so i'm not sure what to do with it yet

~ skitteR

[Gamma Emerald]

@gamma, have you played with a50 since that game you linked?

Yes
And when I said it was “our last C9++ together” I was mistaken on that

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

To elaborate: he voted heaven at a time when it seemed like multiple people were arguing with and starting to push heaven. It feels like a vote that’s meant to take advantage of that momentum rather than solve for heaven’s alignment.

- lilith

sorry, what? at the time cakez voted heaven, i was the only person arguing with them, and i had already moved my vote onto dwlee prior to that. who was pushing heaven at that time?

someone else jumped in to argue about rvs. you were still going back and forth with heaven even though you had moved your vote. it really felt like cakes went "ahhh push the low hanging fruit heaven" when he voted.

what do you think his motivation for voting heaven was then?

- lilith

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

also, a naked vote without acknowledging any of the discussion that was currently happening about/with heaven

- lilith

[Gamma Emerald]

Your solve should replace Gamma with Jersey, Pooky.

Kerset*

Okay, why this?
I also think I shouldn’t be in Pooky’s solve rn but this is a spicier take to talk about

[Tigerente]

also, a naked vote without acknowledging any of the discussion that was currently happening about/with heaven

- lilith

honestly if this is what he was going after i think he would have voted dwlee given he indicated he wanted to sheep gypyx who had just voted dwlee

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

I also have another reason for scumreading cakes but I don't think I want to talk about it yet

- lilith

[Gamma Emerald]

welp, first that seems pretty excessive to me? like, be straight there, if you had to give odds of almost being scum, what would you say?

As in literal odds, or subjective odds?

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

also, a naked vote without acknowledging any of the discussion that was currently happening about/with heaven

- lilith

honestly if this is what he was going after i think he would have voted dwlee given he indicated he wanted to sheep gypyx who had just voted dwlee

? that doesn't make much sense if I'm correct about him wanting to push seemingly LHF-heaven when he thought there might be appetite for a heaven wagon

- lilith

[Datisi]

what do you think his motivation for voting heaven was then?

i unno, maybe he genuinely thought heaven's tone was bad and wanted to add to a push there? like i don't exactly townread cakez but i don't scumread him either and this seems a biiit too strong of a reaction to what happened

also, a naked vote without acknowledging any of the discussion that was currently happening about/with heaven

this is scummy because...?

[Gamma Emerald]

To elaborate: he voted heaven at a time when it seemed like multiple people were arguing with and starting to push heaven. It feels like a vote that’s meant to take advantage of that momentum rather than solve for heaven’s alignment.

- lilith

I get this
When I was considering who to vote in RVS heaven came to mind as someone who seemed rather contentious already