Open 816: C9++ || Game Over

[SirCakez]

Which also makes me think more scum

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

There's not a lot of LHF targets in this player list though.

Everyone is pretty good at towntelling :3

[SirCakez]

Pooky firing shots

[Infinity 324]

it's not meta at all actually, i just think most people there wouldn't be so chill in that situation as scum

I feel like I've seen weaker scum be chill, possibly in a mindset of "I don't know what I can do to avoid the lim so /shrug"

Idk I just don't think that's a good reason to TR someone, people have different emotional reactions to being wagoned

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Just straight facts homie

[Tigerente]

@infinity r.e. those gamma posts
so those are actually better posts than i was remembering

let me take a quick look at panic room to compare

~ skitteR

[Tigerente]

There's not a lot of LHF targets in this player list though.

Everyone is pretty good at towntelling :3

gamma dwlee possibly heaven
i would not have switched to kerset there in that team and i will be stubborn about this because it's an incredibly high-risk low-reward move
and i would not have done it

[Dwlee99]

Why are you calling me low-hanging-fruit this is mad cap

[Tigerente]

it's not meta at all actually, i just think most people there wouldn't be so chill in that situation as scum

I feel like I've seen weaker scum be chill, possibly in a mindset of "I don't know what I can do to avoid the lim so /shrug"

Idk I just don't think that's a good reason to TR someone, people have different emotional reactions to being wagoned

fair ig but it just kinda doesn't seem scummy to me

i don't think i've seen that many weaker scum be this sort of chill in that context, i usually see people become survivalistic

pedit sorry dwlee <3
you wouldn't be too hard to start a wagon on i wager, that may have been a better way to phrase it

~ skitteR

[Dwlee99]

Anyway

yes but that's not how i would do it
it woudl serve a purpose
lolstarting a wagon on kerset there is just silly

i also think this argument is functionally pointless but i will bicker about it if need be because i wouldn't do that

pedit sure - i wouldn't start a wagon on kerset in the middle tho, why not just go for gamma in the first place >.>

~ skitteR

We can talk about it post-game if you're evil then

Also why did Kerset's posting change your mind? I don't get that. I don't think any of the posts between your scum and town read were townie.

pedit sorry dwlee <3
you wouldn't be too hard to start a wagon on i wager, that may have been a better way to phrase it

~ skitteR

I mean that's how I interpreted and I don't really think it is true.

[Tigerente]

@infinity i think that gamma was mostly anxious/angry in panic room when he was getting hard-pushed by lilith, no? he hasn't really been pushed much here so i'm not sure how great a comparision that is rn

~ skitter

[Infinity 324]

Until I reread panic room I'll accept "not a great comparison"

Still think gamma is being very towny this game while not trying to look town

[Tigerente]

Also why did Kerset's posting change your mind? I don't get that. I don't think any of the posts between your scum and town read were townie.

they weren't inhrently townie so much as i don't think that's how scum reacts
he just ... doesn't seem to care much about getting wagoned
i think scum usually does ...

he's barely even acknowledging the wagon on him
like i think scum feel defensive / feel the heat / feel like they need to do so something about getting wagoned
and he's just not

~ skitteR

[Infinity 324]

Also gamma got quite heated defending murder

[Tigerente]

well i think the member of the scumteam he perceived as strongest was going down, and he had a vested interest in making that not happen

until like now he wasn't really under much pressure

~ skitter

[Infinity 324]

Well if gamma was scum with cakez it would be a similar situation

I think it was clear at that point in panic room that I was in a much better position than murder so the "strongest" point isn't really true/relevant imo

[Infinity 324]

I also just think those posts I pointed out (and others) are very towny for gamma regardless of whether he's under pressure or not

[Tigerente]

I feel like the game stalling on a wagon is not normally indicative that they are on town??

if the wagons were on scum presumably we'd see counterwagon attempts, no?

isn't kerset your counterwagon, no?

Sort of? It seems like most people are saying we are scum together tho

i'm not sure most poeple are saying this and i kinda dislike that you're sort of piggybacking off of my reasoning to lump both yourself and kerset in the same pool and call yourselves town
if anything i'm kinda thinkign that the fact that yours stalled while kerset's went up so fast points to scum-you / town-kerset

@people who know Skitter well
Would she go in to WK and probably pocket a townie in trouble as scum?

do u think i'm scum doing this

I don't know I want to talk about it more
Some say you are town here but I'm not 100% sold

i mean ok sure what do u want to talk about

pedit fair enuf i don't remember the details of panic room
i do remember an argument at some poitn where people were saying murder was supposed to be strong scum

[Tigerente]

yeah i actually do kinda think that the posts u pulled for gamma are townier than i thought he was this game

[Infinity 324]

That's kinda my point too, those posts weren't meant to stick out and look towny but they're still there

[Dwlee99]

Also why did Kerset's posting change your mind? I don't get that. I don't think any of the posts between your scum and town read were townie.

they weren't inhrently townie so much as i don't think that's how scum reacts
he just ... doesn't seem to care much about getting wagoned
i think scum usually does ...

he's barely even acknowledging the wagon on him
like i think scum feel defensive / feel the heat / feel like they need to do so something about getting wagoned
and he's just not

~ skitteR

I feel like this is more of a playstyle thing than an alignment indicative one. Kerset's returning posts were bad.

if anything i'm kinda thinkign that the fact that yours stalled while kerset's went up so fast points to scum-you / town-kerset

This reasoning doesn't make sense unless you can point to scum that are hopping on kerset to avoid cakez. This kind of wagon speed tell is kinda short-sighted imo because if a lot of townies agree on a scumread the wagon will go fast. The game is mostly town, remember.

[Tigerente]

it is a good point yeah, and those posts are townie i agree
i just didn't remember him doing anything this morning when i voted him

fwiw we are actively reconsidering voting elsewhere but are kinda sorting out where >.>

pedit @infinity

~ skitteR

[SirCakez]

i'm not sure most poeple are saying this and i kinda dislike that you're sort of piggybacking off of my reasoning to lump both yourself and kerset in the same pool and call yourselves town

I don't understand what this means
Obv not everyone is pooling us but I feel like it's a more common team suggestion than anything else

[SirCakez]

i mean ok sure what do u want to talk about

Why have you spent so much time talking about me this game if you're not even sure I'm town?

[SirCakez]

I'm also already arguing Kerset is town