Newbie 2066: Gelato 2 -- End!

[GuyInFreezer]

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[T3]

You keep going back to my reasons and persistence, but continue to ignore the fact four other people are doing the exact same thing that I'm doing. Why are you only focused on me but continue to ignore everyone else even when they continue to shade you? T3 just voted for you and you didn't even react. Sang and Jumble still scum read you and you couldn't seem to care less. You're only just now voting for Clasko after ignoring all game, and it looks like you're only doing it because I don't want to vote for him.

T3 and Jumble I townread and think their suspicions are genuine.
Also forgot about T3's votes.

@T3:

why GIF when you thought he was town in 265?

You seem more likely to flip red compared to sang.
Because apart from his initial sr on me, his reads feel logical and towny.

Voting Clasko rn cus I realized that Vax's play has a lot more reason to come from town than scuum.

Rock, I assume you're staying on Vax since they're part of your hero read. How does GIF's town read affect this?

Still my hero solve but I'm fine with voting either tbh

So you're scum reading four people but not voting for any of them? Or even trying to get a push going on them?

And you're wondering why I think you're scummy??

I scumread Clasko, Vax and you.
Vax to a lesser extent now tho.

I was pretty sure Vax is town so I voted gif for pushingVax. I did not think gif was scum but we weren't limming Vax.

[NotAJumbleOfNumbers]

Why are you still TRing Vax? Also, I don't quite follow why you'd vote someone for pushing one of your townreads.

[GuyInFreezer]

Why are you still TRing Vax? Also, I don't quite follow why you'd vote someone for pushing one of your townreads.

How's your full readlist looking like atm

[fferyllt]

Johnny Farrar and Clasko have been prodded.

[NotAJumbleOfNumbers]

(Town)

Roden

Sang
GIF

T3 / Clasko

Johnny

Rockhopper / Vaxkiller

(Not Town)

I am not as confident in this one than my last list. There's just too much unexplained stuff going on.

[GuyInFreezer]

Imagine this. Your non-Roden townreads, two of them even, switched out of Vax very quickly for unexplained reason. Like a complete 180. You cannot grasp the reason why but they are both your townreads. Even if one of us is scum (why would scum me + Sang would switch out of Vax like that when in this scenario Vax is town and was going to be lynched sooner or later amirite) at least one of them found a reason so daunting that it was warranted a complete 180. Wouldn't that alone give you a reason to unvote Vax and go for someone else?

I will not vote to eliminate rockhopper today, but if it's this hard to try to get on Clasko wagon, I'm willing to accept Johnny wagon too.

[Roden]

You keep going back to my reasons and persistence, but continue to ignore the fact four other people are doing the exact same thing that I'm doing. Why are you only focused on me but continue to ignore everyone else even when they continue to shade you? T3 just voted for you and you didn't even react. Sang and Jumble still scum read you and you couldn't seem to care less. You're only just now voting for Clasko after ignoring all game, and it looks like you're only doing it because I don't want to vote for him.

T3 and Jumble I townread and think their suspicions are genuine.
Also forgot about T3's votes.

@T3:

why GIF when you thought he was town in 265?

You seem more likely to flip red compared to sang.
Because apart from his initial sr on me, his reads feel logical and towny.

Voting Clasko rn cus I realized that Vax's play has a lot more reason to come from town than scuum.

Rock, I assume you're staying on Vax since they're part of your hero read. How does GIF's town read affect this?

Still my hero solve but I'm fine with voting either tbh

So you're scum reading four people but not voting for any of them? Or even trying to get a push going on them?

And you're wondering why I think you're scummy??

I scumread Clasko, Vax and you.
Vax to a lesser extent now tho.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. We made the same reads with slight variations on you, and yet you singled me out. You keep saying I seem more likely to flip red compared to everyone else but you still haven't actually given a single concrete reason. This is what makes me think you're scum instead of just a really bad town player, because you keep purposely making up reasons to scum read me, especially since you did the exact same thing to Sang. You bring up logic but I haven't seen a single logical explanation from you. In fact, you keep disregarding logic and admitting that you are.

Like, I get it if you're scum, you're just playing the game. You have to do this. But man it's frustrating trying to talk to someone who refuses to argue in good faith. You're not even looking for logical inconsistencies here or trying to catch me in a "Gotcha!" moment. You're literally just singling me out and repeating yourself over and over while adding zero content. It's annoying.

[GuyInFreezer]

Like yeah in lieu of recent events my list of reads changed somewhat.

T3
Vax
Sang
Roden
Jumble
Rock

==
a
big
flipping
gap
==

Johnny
Clasko

I'm willing to reconsider rock if I'm wrong on either Clasko of Johnny. But I don't think I am wrong.

[GuyInFreezer]

Like y'all may think 1 day and 20 hours is a plenty time for an elimination, but y'all need to realize that 3 ppl are effectively not playing the game and there are only 6 votes to achieve 5-votes-elimination.

[GuyInFreezer]

T3's lynchpool - Rockhopper, Clasko, Johnny
Roden's lynchpool - Rockhopper, Johnny
Jumble's lynchpool - Rockhopper, Johnny
GIF's lynchpool - Clasko, Johnny
Rock's lynchpool - Clasko, Roden, Johnny
Sang's lynchpool - Rockhopper, Johnny

At least this is what I'm seeing from posts made thus far.
I guess Clasko lynch ain't happening today with this so
VOTE: Johnny

[GuyInFreezer]

I didn't count Clasko, Vax, and Johnny because.... well they're not really playing the game atm.

[NotAJumbleOfNumbers]

Yeah no the Vaxkiller thing just isn't happening, at least not today

VOTE: Johnny

[fferyllt]

Vote Count 1-10

Gelato made its way to the Americas for the first time in 1770, when Giovanni Basiolo brought it to New York City.

JohnnyFarrar

(3): sang froid, GuyInFreezer, NotAJumbleOfNumbers

GuyInFreezer

(2): Clasko, Vaxkiller

Clasko

(1): Rockhopper

Rockhopper

(1): T3

Vaxkiller

(1): Roden

Not Voting

(1): JohnnyFarrar

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Deadline: June 15, Noon US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-06-15 09:00:00)

Mod Notes:

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[Rockhopper]

VOTE: Johnny
E-1

[Roden]

I need to hear from more people on this. The sudden Vax town read gives me bad vibes and 4D chess isn't enough of an answer.

Sang, what about GIF's sudden change from intent to hammer, to a180 u-turn into a town read, is compelling to you? What are you seeing that I don't?

Jumble, what's your read on the situation? Do you lean Johnny or Vax more as scum?

T3, I don't disagree about Rock but I seriously doubt we're voting Rock today at this point. Why the vote on him?

Clasko...man, I just need you to speak up more. Don't make me paranoid by staying silent so often.

Rock, I assume you're staying on Vax since they're part of your hero read. How does GIF's town read affect this?

Vax, did you give up?

Johnny, are you even playing?

I think he is scum. There are 2 days left before the deadline which  is more than enough time for a wagon to materialize.

I don't think it's happening today tbh. The votes are on GIF's scum reads and it would take a lot to move the votes over like that.

I think GIF has locked down at least one scum tbh. I don't think he's got both since my PoE has one scum between Vax and Rock, but I trust GIF at this point and I don't think he can be 100% wrong with his reads. My biggest reason is that Samg also trusts him and seemed to see what GIF saw.

You keep going back to my reasons and persistence, but continue to ignore the fact four other people are doing the exact same thing that I'm doing. Why are you only focused on me but continue to ignore everyone else even when they continue to shade you? T3 just voted for you and you didn't even react. Sang and Jumble still scum read you and you couldn't seem to care less. You're only just now voting for Clasko after ignoring all game, and it looks like you're only doing it because I don't want to vote for him.

T3 and Jumble I townread and think their suspicions are genuine.

Also forgot about T3's votes.

@T3:

why GIF when you thought he was town in 265?

You seem more likely to flip red compared to sang.

Because apart from his initial sr on me, his reads feel logical and towny.

Voting Clasko rn cus I realized that Vax's play has a lot more reason to come from town than scuum.

Rock, I assume you're staying on Vax since they're part of your hero read. How does GIF's town read affect this?

Still my hero solve but I'm fine with voting either tbh

So you're scum reading four people but not voting for any of them? Or even trying to get a push going on them?

And you're wondering why I think you're scummy??

I scumread Clasko, Vax and you.

Vax to a lesser extent now tho.

I was pretty sure Vax is town so I voted gif for pushingVax. I did not think gif was scum but we weren't limming Vax.

I actually get your reasoning, because I feel as strongly about Clasko as well. I don't town read you as strongly as GIF does, but if he's still got you town locked even after you voted him then he must've noticed a definite town tell somewhere.

Like y'all may think 1 day and 20 hours is a plenty time for an elimination, but y'all need to realize that 3 ppl are effectively not playing the game and there are only 6 votes to achieve 5-votes-elimination.

Yeah, this is what's worrying me at this point. At this point we don't really have a choice.

I intend to hammer in a few hours.

[Roden]

Actually you know what, fuck it. It's three days past his VLA and he still hasn't posted.

VOTE: Johnny

[fferyllt]

Vote Count 1-10

So, can you get Buontalenti's gelato, per his recipe, in Florence today? Probably...the ingredients are known, though the specific ratios are not. Still, you can order a "Buontalenti" at a few of the traditional Florentine gelaterias.

JohnnyFarrar

(5): sang froid, GuyInFreezer, NotAJumbleOfNumbers, Rockhopper, Roden

GuyInFreezer

(2): Clasko, Vaxkiller

Rockhopper

(1): T3

Not Voting

(1): JohnnyFarrar

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Deadline: June 15, Noon US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-06-15 09:00:00)

Mod Notes:

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An Elimination Has Been Achieved!

[fferyllt]

JohnnyFarrar was a

Town Tracker.

Night 1 begins now and will end on Wednesday, June 16, Midnight US Eastern Time

Night actions are due in (expired on 2021-06-15 21:00:00)

[fferyllt]

Clasko has requested replacement. Night 1 is paused and will end 24 hours after a replacement is found.

[fferyllt]

VFP replaces Clasko. Night 1 ends in (expired on 2021-06-17 11:25:40)

[fferyllt]

sang froid died last night. He was a

Vanilla Townie

[fferyllt]

Vote Count 2-1

Day 2 Begins!

This photo, titled

Gelato Nuns

and was taken by Richard Morgan in 2019 in Venice, Italy. The photograph won the 18th Annual Smithsonian Photography Contest.

Not Voting

(9): NotAJumbleOfNumbers, Vaxkiller, Rockhopper, T3, Roden, VFP, GuyInFreezer

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to eliminate.

Deadline: June 24, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-06-24 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

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[VFP]

So Roden, about that hammer...

I read NotAJumbleOfNumbers. This is town.
T3 I started to read, I don't read as scum yet.

This page and last I don't favour GIF and Roden.
Roden less though.

[Roden]

Don't look at me. My heart clenched when I saw he was Tracker, there was no way I was supposed to know that when the dude wasn't posting and just kept prod dodging. Let's not pretend like I orchestrated Johnny's elim or even wanted him out first. I sure as hell wasn't the only vote on him.

What I want to know is why Sang got NK'd over GIF. Because I genuinely think scum made a mistake here if they think they can frame GIF for a wrong elim. Pretty sure he bread crumbled why earlier and scum didn't catch it.