I've spent the past few hours working on this and am not fully satisfied, and have some more things I want to look into. But for sake of advancing the game and providing insight into my PoV, this is about where I am at. Anyone below the town is subject to move. Some of these can easily go up or down depending on answers to questions.
Servant Lancer
- As I have said before, I find Lancer to be fairly town for their self introspection about why they did not want to be the master in
85. I also liked the follow up on my earlier question in
220 as well as their stance on caster in
248 as it is a weird approach for scum to take when preparing a read. Combine this with the following
249 of snappy comments felt genuine. I still expect to see some solving out of them to keep their spot amongst the stars.
Servant Archer
- I might have a soft spot for my biggest fan. Besides that, we have moved in near lockstep for the duration of the game. Given my late appeal to be the master, I don't think I would be the choice for scum to buddy, so that lends itself to similar motivation by virtue of similar alignments.
41 is an earlier one I thought but never said. For recent instances, take a look at their interaction with Caster. It is genuinely trying to explain and be transparent to allow Caster the information needed to reevaluate their read and overcome the tunnel. I'm speaking of
369,
372. I also appreciated the transparency regarding his changing perspective about who should be town master in
376, particularly with regards to the unvote of Saber and how they were developing a new decision.
Servant Caster
- Caster seems like misguided town. As I have said already, I believe scum would not be as clueless about the history of the game (it frankly surprised me any player would not look up how the roles looked last game). This is followed up by the development of the read on
194. I think scum would be a tad more flexible than to hold on to a page 2 scumread in a dead tunnel as well, including the situational awareness in
351 about my professed reads, and following up again on getting more information out of me in
469. My biggest complaints here is that despite opposing my master they have not shared any reasons I could be scum beyond pre-flip associatives, but I assume they just think hiding their case will give it more gravitas.
Servant Alter Ego
- They, like Archer, have been mirroring a lot of my thoughts throughout the game. I did drop them down some when Beast pointed out that it was mostly mechanical and easily faked.
299 was the same thing I was thinking. I also liked their comments in
427 about how Beast was campaigning for Saber by virtue of making resistance a scumtell, and while somewhat abrasive, I do agree with their analysis on Beast spending a lot more time critiquing everyone else, and
441 feels somewhat against the grain as well. I also liked their shutdown of the back and forth with beast in
457 and feel like scum don't shut things down quite like that. I don't think scum has any incentive to shut down the line of questioning in the first place, and if they were going to, would choose something more along the lines of discrediting.
Servant Saber
- I was not initially townreading them, until I did the review after talking with Beast. The points I found easiest to swallow were about their suspicions of the building master wagon on them, in specific the Moon suspicion listed in
235. I also had issues with the Moon reads list, and their justifications were weak. I found it town to be comparing his location to the other candidates and draw that conclusion.
Servant Foreigner
- This was the hardest one on the list for me to place. It changed up slots upon my reread, for one post in particular.
162 is a town post, that's a town confession. Yes, scum has to remember who people are to fake reads and yada yada, but I don't think scum just comes out and says it. They have other good posts such as
171 which showed good gamestate awareness, and I think
388 is a little too blunt to come from scum. It isn't as strong as my other townreads, but enough to put him at the bottom of my town list.
Servant Rider
- This is just under the line. I liked the pause about the wagon composition in
489. I liked their confusion about Moon and Egos coexisting on the wagon in
492 because it brought up something I missed myself. I liked his call back in
490, as it shows he is trying to get into Saber's head and seeing if his statements are holding up as time goes on.
Servant Ruler
- I find myself wanting more from their posts. It's pbpa, but majority of the comments are just "this post is pure of heart" without walking through the thoughts that make them believe that. I disagree with their moon stance, but that read is somewhat against the grain. I'm almost tempted to call them town for that read, if they actually explained what it was about not one, but both of Moon's readslists they found town. The other thing I find myself leaning town on from them is the read on Saber. It's an awkward angle for scum to take when trying to start a push on someone. I could see it, however, providing plenty of backtracking via "Oh I guess I was wrong on who it was"
Servant Assassin
- They were my first scumread of the game, I was not a fan of the "I have a strong role master me" as others have already shared, its an easy way for scum to get the master without actually committing anything. I did end up liking their thoughts once they started analysis, and while I disagreed with it liked the read on Lancer in particular. Now, you might be asking why they are in null. I will hit on this further later.
Servant Beast
- I have mixed feelings here. On the one hand, I think their pushing Saber and belief of that feels genuine, and I liked their response to me in
348. I wish there was more follow up and actual trying to read me, I tried to extend a hand to allow them into my head but nothing ever truly came of it. I do agree with Alter's analysis that there does seem to be a lot of questions and very little analysis or follow up, it mostly seems to revert back to "We need to master Saber." As of this point in the thread, I think they have declared 4/5 reads? But there was a good chunk of time they only had two actual reads, and I found it hard to believe they had no other impressions.
Servant Avenger
I didn't like the miller claim. I will hit on this more later.
Servant Moon Cancer
- Originally one could have made the argument that such controversial reads in
226 were more likely to come from scum. Then, they change their entire list up in
462 after receiving a lot of flak over a few of these reads, one central one is their read on me. They justify the read on me in
238 (and I use the term justify lightly). The person who calls it out (other than me I believe) is Alter, their lowest scumread. There is no backtrack, there is no attempt to read me, just a strange flip. Even if they said "Well my strongest townread is pro-Berserker Master" that would at least make some sense. The backtracks feel too inorganic.
Their first post feels like they reached the right conclusions long before it was cool to do so. Even though, arguably they just towned everybody who posted a lot.