Mini Normal 2215: Deco [Complete]

[geraintm]

I am sorry if this loses the game and scum pile onto my vote onto another townie, but the arguments I see coming from what I believe to be thebscum pair just don't make any sense to me.

[Egix96]

Well, uh, speak of the devil, I guess?

[geraintm]

I actually nearly posted last night that i was happy to be the next person who voted, to take the pressure off others. (And also beg no one to vote for anyone besides the existing wagobs)
But I thought that a little egotistical

[geraintm]

Well, uh, speak of the devil, I guess?

i also take exception to being called a Devil

[Egix96]

I didn't mean it like that, sorry. It's just a figure of speech.

[geraintm]

I didn't mean it like that, sorry. It's just a figure of speech.

i put a smiley face! i wasnt being serious

[Jake The Wolfie]

Well if you guys are indeed masons, who is scum?

I thought we had this established:

Titus, DrippingGoofBall, and Geraintm is the solve here. They are all scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

Jake, I am town.

So, taking that into consideration, what is the solve?

[Jake The Wolfie]

Titus, DrippingGoofball, and geraintm.

I remain unconvinced that your declaration from above should be taken seriously. You are welcome to convince me that I am wrong, but at most one of those 3 can be town. I am currently convinced that 0 of those 3 are town.

[geraintm]

Titus, DrippingGoofball, and geraintm.

I remain unconvinced that your declaration from above should be taken seriously. You are welcome to convince me that I am wrong, but at most one of those 3 can be town. I am currently convinced that 0 of those 3 are town.

i agree that me and Titus are the same alignment. i just know we are town

If anyone outside the VFP/Jake pair are considering voting for me (and by implication Titus) can you please ask me to explain all my past actions that you want me to and i will do my best before you go ahead and place that vote.

[geraintm]

i still dont think the case against me from VFP/JAke is anything more than "Geraint tried to stall out day 2 and that is scummy"

[geraintm]

i hope no one (apart from VFP/Jake) are going to make a claim that i am today trying my very best to be above board, with all my logic in the open and willing to engage with anyone about how i see the game

[Egix96]

Spoiler:

I like egix, jake and vfp the most rn. I didn’t really like DGB’s wanted to lim T3 based on the miller claim. You should only lim a miller claim for the same reasons as anyone else - because you actually think they’re scum and it seemed to me that DGB’s sole reason for pushing T3 was the claim. If she gave other reasons for this, I don’t recall.

To add to ^, I'm townreading most of the active players, so by PoE, scum must be among the players that I don't notice as much.

Which read are you disagreeing with? I said I liked them the most. It’s obviously not a hardread but egix and especially VFP seem pretty townie. Are you going to explain why you have an issue with this and are you ever planning to respond to any of my questions?

Tr on jessica for now, her points about cw I agree with. Titus fails to mention that there is no town motivation behind dgb still not believing cw so I think I'll keep my vote there.

I got my second shot yesterday and as a result of it my JIA is acting up again so I'm just stuck on the couch feeling like shit on the first day of sumer break

I literally just mentioned the town motivation. There's no way you're this dense.

VFP and T3 are currently my strongest townreads. I believed T3’s claim because I think he’s probably town irrespective of it.

With cw, I believe the claim based on what he said about his role but probably wouldn’t be tr him otherwise.

I'm still working on the rest of the D1 posts, but the one big thing that stands out to me so far is that Jessica, the N1 kill, consistently townread VFP.

[Jake The Wolfie]

i still dont think the case against me from VFP/JAke is anything more than "Geraint tried to stall out day 2 and that is scummy"

There is also a 3/4ths chance you are scum FMPOV. Even if Egix was not town in my mind, you'd still be statistically likely to be scum.

[Egix96]

I'm not taking for granted that we might have a vig, since personally I see no indication of one.
Also, strongman might be a possibility.

So this is the problem with no vig and a loyal doctor.
Why is the doctor loyal? This is a normal so no re direct or bus fuckery.
If just a scum doc, then why if there's already a macho cop?

It's not set, but it's very plausible if cw is doc regardless of alignment.

How would a Doctor be helpful if T3 is town?

Cw can heal T3 and vig can shoot T3 to verify town alignment

Of course, T3 just dies if cw is lying or is roleblocked

There’s your daily does of IIOA

And why would we assume there is a vigilante?
This is just filled with holes.

Admittedly though, I'm finding it hard to wrap my head around the masons not agreeing here.

[Titus]

I am not feeling well. I'll be on when I can.

[Jake The Wolfie]

It is possible, and indeed plausible, that two town players can disagree with eachother. That's partly how misexecutions happen.

[Egix96]

It is possible, and indeed plausible, that two town players can disagree with eachother. That's partly how misexecutions happen.

But that's usually when they don't know each other's alignments. It's just something that made me thonk.
I need a break anyway.

[Jake The Wolfie]

It is possible, and indeed plausible, that two town players can disagree with eachother. That's partly how misexecutions happen.

But that's usually when they don't know each other's alignments. It's just something that made me thonk.
I need a break anyway.

That's a fair point.

I think that's why there's very little disagreement between me and VFP.

[DrippingGoofball]

Titus, DrippingGoofball, and geraintm.

I remain unconvinced that your declaration from above should be taken seriously. You are welcome to convince me that I am wrong, but at most one of those 3 can be town. I am currently convinced that 0 of those 3 are town.

Humor me.

[Jake The Wolfie]

If you are town, then the solve is Titus, geraintm, and Egix.

[geraintm]

If you are town, then the solve is Titus, geraintm, and Egix.

How did you come to this solution? What led you to place your vote on me in a eliminate correctly or lose situation? I still don't understand the case on me which is not just "Loud voices!"

[Jake The Wolfie]

Dude, you've been scummy all game. You gave me bad vibes from late Day 1, which I tried surpressing to give you the benefit of the doubt, but now I see that you're the scummiest player out of the 4 options here.

In any case, I came to that solution specifically because it is literally impossible for it to be anything but if DGB is town. Ranny is

Confirmed Town

and FMPOV VFP is confirmed town. Assuming 3 scum, this means the remaining 3 players must be scum.

[VFP]

Gera knows this and is playing naive there.

[geraintm]

Please explain what I was doing day 1 that was scummy