If GammaIn post 1458, Gamma Emerald wrote:I know S_S is scum but iirc mastina TRed him
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In post 1475, Gamma Emerald wrote:
tbh in this case I think the team is probably S_S and kyoukoIn post 1472, imaginality wrote:Even if cop's not dead, as per my early game reasoning they absolutely shouldn't have waited this long to claim their result so I would not believe any cop claim now.
From the alive players, the bids I know of:
Imaginality: won 1-shot RB for 410, won 1-shot neighourizer 90, total 500
Ssbm: won 1-shot hitman for 426
S&M: won 1-shot AD 300, won 200, total 500
Gamma: won GF 499
Something_Smart: won 2-shot watcher 500
marcistar: won 2-shot gravedigger 225
The only players who could have won the 301 hitman are:
ssbm, marci, Gamma
So if Gamma flips town, and we manage to cram votes on Something_Smart tomorrow so we don't insta-lose, the other scum is either ssbm or marci
That said, I do think most likely it's Gamma + someone. And agree Gamma's vote should already be on Something_Smart.
The main doubt I have is why would scum not hide the watcher bid D3 and the hitman bid D4, if they weren't using them to frame Gamma?
I don't think the game plays out this way if marci is scum, so many different things I feel like should be different if that's the case
VOTE: ssbm_kyoukoIn post 1479, Gamma Emerald wrote:kyouko is pretty much always scum here, no?In post 1497, Gamma Emerald wrote:feels like kyouko just slipped that I'm town-
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In post 1500, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Consider this also though: Tracker was not obscured yesterDay at the end because scum wanted to know who won it. This points to town!Marci because the only town!player that could outbid Mastina was Marci. By not obscuring, they could see clearly who won Tracker.
If we consider that S_S is town here then maybe scum didn't believe S_S holstered the first Night and thought he was out of shots. Otherwise they should have obscured tracker and 50-50ed between Mastina/Marci so that S_S would have a lower chance of Watching the correct target. Was that post by S&M about the jailkeeper continuing to protect Marci a slip? did scumteam of S&M/Gamma think Mastina would be able to jail again so they bought hitman and killed Mastina with it?Coincidence that Gamma and Kyouku are hard distancing each other but Gamma votes SS?
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mmhmm i think theyre most likely the scum team, i dont like ssbm_kyoukos postings today it feels like hes just trying to push anyone he can.In post 1524, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:The way he reacted to the guilty wasn’t townie and he only votes SS now because he realizes it’s suspicious not too. Imaginality is probably town fooled by him and Kyouku left no doubt by bussing him and pushing us as his buddy. That’s how I know. Kyouku wouldn’t be voting Gamma and pushing an inane double bus garbage if he either one were town.
Kyouku scumclaimed. It’s blatant scum distancing.
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Because I’m trying to do NKAIn post 1525, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
If GammaIn post 1458, Gamma Emerald wrote:I know S_S is scum but iirc mastina TRed himknowsSS is scum then why mention Mastina tr him?<Embrace The Void>
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Yeah and he’s clearly not sorting and the interactions between those two scream buddies to me. And it’s still pings me that he tried to stop Kitty elim.In post 1528, marcistar wrote:
mmhmm i think theyre most likely the scum team, i dont like ssbm_kyoukos postings today it feels like hes just trying to push anyone he can.In post 1524, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:The way he reacted to the guilty wasn’t townie and he only votes SS now because he realizes it’s suspicious not too. Imaginality is probably town fooled by him and Kyouku left no doubt by bussing him and pushing us as his buddy. That’s how I know. Kyouku wouldn’t be voting Gamma and pushing an inane double bus garbage if he either one were town.
Kyouku scumclaimed. It’s blatant scum distancing.
maybe they were preparing to sacrifice gamma for awhile..?
My theory was one scum between VFP and Kyouku because MO Kyouku is still alive but Flea died N1, then Distance N2, to frame VFP obviously.-
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Why would SS guilty you > Kyouku? He was his #1 sr not you?In post 1529, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Because I’m trying to do NKAIn post 1525, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
If GammaIn post 1458, Gamma Emerald wrote:I know S_S is scum but iirc mastina TRed himknowsSS is scum then why mention Mastina tr him?-
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I just want to say that anyone who thinks Kyouku is town should check us because we have no money, so we ain’t going anywhere.In post 1532, Gypyx wrote:
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Who knows? I think without the guilty Gamma could have potentially endgamed.In post 1528, marcistar wrote:
mmhmm i think theyre most likely the scum team, i dont like ssbm_kyoukos postings today it feels like hes just trying to push anyone he can.In post 1524, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:The way he reacted to the guilty wasn’t townie and he only votes SS now because he realizes it’s suspicious not too. Imaginality is probably town fooled by him and Kyouku left no doubt by bussing him and pushing us as his buddy. That’s how I know. Kyouku wouldn’t be voting Gamma and pushing an inane double bus garbage if he either one were town.
Kyouku scumclaimed. It’s blatant scum distancing.
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because kyouko is S_S's buddy?In post 1531, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:Why would SS guilty you > Kyouku? He was his #1 sr not you?<Embrace The Void>
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@ImaginalityIn post 1069, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:You are alleging that scum!Kyouku was find with letting her “buddy” S_S hang yesterday, had I not flipped the votes. Yes?
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this was why I voted ssbm initiallyIn post 1534, imaginality wrote:I can see Gamma + ssbm if Gamma flips scum, but can also see SS + ssbm
I'd rather vote out assured scum first and then potentially rb can solve the rest of the game<Embrace The Void>
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In post 1534, imaginality wrote:I can see Gamma + ssbm if Gamma flips scum, but can also see SS + ssbm
Yoi said that right after Imaginality did, too funny.In post 1536, Gamma Emerald wrote:
because kyouko is S_S's buddy?In post 1531, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:Why would SS guilty you > Kyouku? He was his #1 sr not you?-
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@Gamma, did you not see this?In post 1537, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
@ImaginalityIn post 1069, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:You are alleging that scum!Kyouku was find with letting her “buddy” S_S hang yesterday, had I not flipped the votes. Yes?
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Town doesn't do this in mlimlo. If you're town you know S_S is lying scum and you vote for him. You theorize all you want about who could be his partner as you're likely the NK, or if S_S is bussing you, you want to appear as though you expect to he NKed. But town you doesn't vote anywhere but S_SIn post 1538, Gamma Emerald wrote:
this was why I voted ssbm initiallyIn post 1534, imaginality wrote:I can see Gamma + ssbm if Gamma flips scum, but can also see SS + ssbm
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Btw, regarding checking S&M: they can still have hitman if Gamma bought the 1-shot AD and relayed his result to S&M in the PT. Role blocking S&M is not a clear. The only player that cant have hitman now is S_S unless he and Gamma swapped claims. Nobody can be cleared because anyone could have bought hitman if scum, and even if it is unlikely that S_S or S&M swapped claims, it could have happened.
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except I said it firstIn post 1539, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:In post 1534, imaginality wrote:I can see Gamma + ssbm if Gamma flips scum, but can also see SS + ssbm
Yoi said that right after Imaginality did, too funny.In post 1536, Gamma Emerald wrote:
because kyouko is S_S's buddy?In post 1531, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:Why would SS guilty you > Kyouku? He was his #1 sr not you?<Embrace The Void>
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a LOT of people were okay with S_S dyingIn post 1540, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
@Gamma, did you not see this?In post 1537, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
@ImaginalityIn post 1069, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:You are alleging that scum!Kyouku was find with letting her “buddy” S_S hang yesterday, had I not flipped the votes. Yes?
in fact you're pretty much the only one who wasn't aside from me and mastina
do I have it wrong and it's S_S and S&M?<Embrace The Void>
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You are flat out lying here. You know damn well, we spent 300 on 1 shot AD and the remaining 200 on 1 shot tracker.In post 1542, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Btw, regarding checking S&M: they can still have hitman if Gamma bought the 1-shot AD and relayed his result to S&M in the PT. Role blocking S&M is not a clear. The only player that cant have hitman now is S_S unless he and Gamma swapped claims. Nobody can be cleared because anyone could have bought hitman if scum, and even if it is unlikely that S_S or S&M swapped claims, it could have happened.
Mechanically we can only know at least one of S_S and Gamma are scum
Yoi will do just about anything - including ignoring actual facts to bs shade me, won’t you?
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In post 1547, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
You are flat out lying here. You know damn well, we spent 300 on 1 shot AD and the remaining 200 on 1 shot tracker.In post 1542, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Btw, regarding checking S&M: they can still have hitman if Gamma bought the 1-shot AD and relayed his result to S&M in the PT. Role blocking S&M is not a clear. The only player that cant have hitman now is S_S unless he and Gamma swapped claims. Nobody can be cleared because anyone could have bought hitman if scum, and even if it is unlikely that S_S or S&M swapped claims, it could have happened.
Mechanically we can only know at least one of S_S and Gamma are scum
Yoi will do just about anything - including ignoring actual facts to bs shade me, won’t you?
Imaginality confirmed my 1 shot AD and I don’t recall you questioning my 1 shot tracker yesterday either.-
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You taking the objectively scummiest player by play out of the equation isn’t going to change my mind. I believe SS has a real guilty on you and Kyouku is off the charts scummy. I also know there’s no way in hell you actually believe I’m scum here, so you and Kyouku just keep erasing all possible doubt. Goos job.In post 1546, Gamma Emerald wrote:
a LOT of people were okay with S_S dyingIn post 1540, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
@Gamma, did you not see this?In post 1537, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
@ImaginalityIn post 1069, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:You are alleging that scum!Kyouku was find with letting her “buddy” S_S hang yesterday, had I not flipped the votes. Yes?
in fact you're pretty much the only one who wasn't aside from me and mastina
do I have it wrong and it's S_S and S&M?
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