mini normal 2226; who won

[Datisi]

Don't you find it odd that it's virtually an all town wagon on Meg

have i missed 4 innocent child announcements somewhere?

also, if you think that the wagon on meg is currently mostly town, nobody is defending them, but they're not going through... how does that point to "meg is town, and scum doesn't wanna get their hands dirty (even though two of them are currently ~possible counterwagons)" as opposed to "meg is scum, and scum is stalling and praying that the wagon doesn't end up happening"?

[Alchemist21]

I want to flip meg, because I think that they are scummy, and they also have associatives now. And ari is making me paranoid wrt prism

If meg is scum, we flip scum.

If meg is town, I can sheep Prism for the rest of the game.

Win win

VOTE: Meg[/m]

What associatives do you think exist with Meg?

At this point, Meg has given a full read list, and thoughts on most of the slots, and most of the slots have interacted with the wagon. So she has associatives with most slots at this point imo

I thought you had some specific associatives in mind.

[MegAzumarill]

[quote]Where did I say it was meaningless? Direct quote, please?[\quote]

Someone in the game said that it "was doing nothing for them."
After reading through your ISO, it wasn't you, so I concede on that point.
Having trouble with who actually did after reading like 8 of the ISOs.

What is weird is that you ended up posting the VC mid wagon, right after 2 players shifted from chaos onto you. I count 3 players shifting from chaos to you in a short time, and 1 on me (titus Mathblade, T3: compared to just gamma from me)
That point still stands.

[Datisi]

or hell, howcan you tell this situation is not "all three current wagons are on town, and scum is doing nothing and waiting around to see what the town ends up doing"?

pedit: this is still @titus

[MegAzumarill]

Also, using one flip to check someone based on their read accuracy rarely works. Genuine can be wrong.

It may not be the same for math, but for me it is nore really about read accuracy

First, and foremost, I think Meg is scummy.

But after that, I don't think Ari and Meg are ever partners here. So a

scum meg flip

would make me more

confident in a ari town read

.

And on the other hand, I agree with ari's analysis that scumPrism would not need to enter the thread the way that she did if Meg was not her partner, so a

town meg flip

would make me more

confident in a prism town read

@Alchemist

Great formatting by me in my last post

[Gamma Emerald]

oh, something pings me as weird about lukewarm calling meg scummy earlier, but only voting them now. even though they made no new posts from back then to now. i dunno if it's related to the vulture rising wagon, it might be, who knows. moreso a note for me for later.

Curious what the implications you are worried about here tho?

That I am scum with vulture, and that meg is town? Because in that case, I guess could have easily transitioned to the meg wagon earlier when titus urged me to.

Unless, I guess the scum team is excatly me+Vulture+Meg, and I think vulture is the stronger partner?

I was kinda mindlessly back reading and this popped out as weird
@Luke why do you treat scenarios where you’re scum so charitably here? If you’re town you know that’s not the case, so I don’t get why it feels like you’re honestly discussing that possibility.

[Datisi]

anyone else get the feeling that alch went from actively solving the game to dropping off, doing a post or two a day, and not trying to advance the game at all?

[Lukewarm]

I have returned home from a busy couple of days.

My schedule is a lot calmer for the for seeable future, and I am ready to

openwolf

lead the town to victory.

This day should end. Like soon.

I believe we have reached the point where the day dragging on is detrimental. Because, what are we gonna get at this point, before we get some concrete info (flips)

More of Titus and math talking in code making everyone's eyes galze over?
More of Math and Gamma having a contest to see who can be more offended of the other?
More of Ari and Prism getting upset (either by ari withdrawing, or by prism getting snippy)
More of Meg's mega-bloated scum posts?

Because that seems like all I have seen in the last like 24 hours, and I don't think that any of it really helps us win.

Lets elim someone, and get some concrete info to actually spark discussion in new directions!

We were close to that point before, but put on the breaks due to the rep ins needed to catch up, but they caught up now

[Prism]

I lied, I'm too tilted and I'm not reading shit. There are so many better ways to spend the evening than on this game.

Maybe in a dream world Meg flips scum and I get out of this game one way or another Day 2 but at this point I am so fucking spiteful that I hope it flips town along with Aristeia/Vulture and the scumteam is some stupid lurker combo+MathBlade.

[Lukewarm]

VOTE: vult
I'll sheep.

@T3, vote meg, and sheep me! (Or dats, or ari, or math) instead of just vaguely sheeping thread momentum

I just want to end this day before I have to inform people about restless leg syndrome or the history of torture as a political investigation tool.

@Titus, this is me now! Lets GOOOOOOOOO!!. Vote meg

Thats enough for a hammer, but any of Prism, Umlaut, Alch, Gamma, or even Chaos is welcome to speed it up by joining this juicy wagon of justice

[Lukewarm]

@Luke why do you treat scenarios where you’re scum so charitably here? If you’re town you know that’s not the case, so I don’t get why it feels like you’re honestly discussing that possibility.

Because I think that Dats is town, so I assume that the concern is genuine, even if incorrect. So, I wanted to figure out where the concern was coming from

[Prism]

VOTE: Chaos

See you in 48

[Prism]

Hero guess is like that/Gamma/MathBlade

[Alchemist21]

their iso is very weak,

they don't feel very engaged.

I don't think they care about the answers to the questions they ask.

their voting history is kind of ick and fits with a flubber partner.

It’s true my engagement has fallen off since the weekend but I was hella engaged at the start and I’ve been having conversations with people so I don’t know where you’re getting this. You’re also gonna need to explain the “flubber partner” bit.

[Titus]

Don't you find it odd that it's virtually an all town wagon on Meg

have i missed 4 innocent child announcements somewhere?

also, if you think that the wagon on meg is currently mostly town, nobody is defending them, but they're not going through... how does that point to "meg is town, and scum doesn't wanna get their hands dirty (even though two of them are currently ~possible counterwagons)" as opposed to "meg is scum, and scum is stalling and praying that the wagon doesn't end up happening"?

That theory doesn't work because Chaos gets more momentum than Meg does if Chaos is town and Meg is scum. Same with Vulture. Instead it's the same voters.

You'd have to argue that scum are actively shopping and failing. I don't see scum trying at all.

[Lukewarm]

Vote Meg!
Vote Meg!
Vote Meg!

[Lukewarm]

I thought you had some specific associatives in mind.

I put the strongest one, in my mind in 1003, but most slots have associatives with the meg slot at this point.

In general though, I find talking about preflip associatives in a lot of detail is actually anti town

[Lukewarm]

I find talking about preflip associatives in a lot of detail is actually anti town

By "I find," I mean that Bingle told me that explicitly in one game, and once he said it it felt right.

[Prism]

VOTE: Meg

Sure. I think that's E-1 but if it's hammer even better.

[Alchemist21]

Also, using one flip to check someone based on their read accuracy rarely works. Genuine can be wrong.

It may not be the same for math, but for me it is nore really about read accuracy

First, and foremost, I think Meg is scummy.

But after that, I don't think Ari and Meg are ever partners here. So a

scum meg flip

would make me more

confident in a ari town read

.

And on the other hand, I agree with ari's analysis that scumPrism would not need to enter the thread the way that she did if Meg was not her partner, so a

town meg flip

would make me more

confident in a prism town read

This is more in line with what I was expecting.

[Datisi]

hm. with prism actually voting meg, i am this close -><- to calling for a flashwagon on alch

[Prism]

Lukewarm's content has gotten significantly better, less today but more some realtime stuff he gave last night. Unlikely but meh.

P-Edit: I will fucking bus whoever you want Datisi, why not just wagon me instead and cut out the stupid fucking middleman that's designed to just tilt me off the end of the earth for no reason?

[Lukewarm]

hm. with prism actually voting meg, i am this close -><- to calling for a flashwagon on alch

Sorry, I took the openwolf position already.

Try again tomorrow

[Prism]

hm. with prism actually voting meg, i am this close -><- to calling for a flashwagon on alch

PLEASE rationalize this

I am begging you on my hands and knees to make this make any sense whatsoever

[MegAzumarill]

Taking a page top before i go!