White flag #824 game over

[Dwlee99]

Oh, I thought you were saying gamma unvoted bugs, not the other way around.

[Infinity 324]

i don't think scum really thinks to suggest the whole exercise, especially not gamma

i also think the way he rethought the nm read seems like something scum is unlikely to do and is the way town!gamma tends to approach things

[Datisi]

hm. both infinity and gamma remind me of them from that c9++ game. or rather infinity reminds me of her from that game, and her townread of gamma was correct there so if she's town here it's prooobably correct here too?

[Infinity 324]

i'm gonna keep using the read until it stops working

[GuiltyLion]

i am not sure i like this. specifically the bolded part, that never happened. i didn't claim suspicion on you without checking - at the time of typing 47, i had already checked coalition and knew you weren't actually suspicious for naked voting.

you did claim suspicion on me though

i was gonna make a post saying how i also didn't like guiltylion, because him naked voting implo without any given thought felt odd, because in the coalition run i recently modded, he voted on page one after providing decent reasoning first

Maybe I should have rephrased my post to say "claimed

to have

suspicion on me", I didn't mean to imply you were claiming to suspect me in *this* thread, but you very clearly expressed that you were suspicious of me prior to having checked Coalition, that's the point I was making

[GuiltyLion]

I don't see why scum Datisi can't have seen your vote here and said "oh, i think this is a difference in GL's play" and then gone back and seen that it wasn't.

But why would scum!Datisi go through with posting that regardless afterwards once he confirmed it wasn't indicative and I was consistent across the two games?

[GuiltyLion]

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

This is outed actually. He was angry at bugspray being a baboon, implying anger at bugspray's stupidity or lack of reading comprehension. But then he votes bugspray on the basis that they were mafia and intentionally trying to make them look bad. Which makes them scum, not someone who lacks reading comprehension. I think Gamma is mafia who got tilted at being suspected for the wrong reasons by a townie who didn't read their post properly. Which is why he initially calls them a baboon and then switches to a fake reason to attack them after.

And this feels massively over explanatory for page 4/5...

I don't like this, feels like you're embellishing calling it "massively" over explanatory

[GuiltyLion]

VOTE: Dwlee

are you still scumreading implosion and what are your other reads

[Dwlee99]

Ahhh okay I'll play the game

[Dwlee99]

Reread in progress

[GuiltyLion]

I think I like NM, Gamma, goats, Datisi, Infinity for town so far

That VC made me hate the wagon I was on despite still not really feeling any townie vibes from implosion yet

everyone else still various flavors of non-entity to scummy

[Datisi]

i am not sure i like this. specifically the bolded part, that never happened. i didn't claim suspicion on you without checking - at the time of typing 47, i had already checked coalition and knew you weren't actually suspicious for naked voting.

you did claim suspicion on me though

i was gonna make a post saying how i also didn't like guiltylion, because him naked voting implo without any given thought felt odd, because in the coalition run i recently modded, he voted on page one after providing decent reasoning first

Maybe I should have rephrased my post to say "claimed

to have

suspicion on me", I didn't mean to imply you were claiming to suspect me in *this* thread, but you very clearly expressed that you were suspicious of me prior to having checked Coalition, that's the point I was making

oh, i see. yeah, that makes a bit more sense, thanks. remind to pick this up again (if i forget) when implo reacts to 130.

[Dwlee99]

Okay I got three pages in

GuiltyLion
Gamma Emerald
Not_Mafia
Flea the Magician
Infinity 324
MURDERCAT
Dwlee99

goats
bugspray
implosion
Klick
Datisi
PookyTheMagicalBear

My top is who I feel good about. They are town I think. Bottom people are the PoE, maybe if I ordered them in vibe of null to scummy it'd be like??

goats
PookyTheMagicalBear
Datisi
Klick
bugspray
implosion

[Datisi]

Okay I got three pages in

...?

why would you make a readslist three pages in when the whole game is 6 pages long?

[Dwlee99]

People voting me (infinity and guilty) are probably town for kicking my butt into action.

I also just liked their posting before that too

NM made a good start calling reads and stuff. I don't know how to read him but also he just seems uninformed.

I liked Gamma's entrance, it was good.

Flea also had a good entrance.

Last time Murdercat was evil I caught him very quick which is a pseudo-meta tell and also my scumdar is broken BUT I think he is town here because I don't think he is evil.

[Dwlee99]

Okay I got three pages in

...?

why would you make a readslist three pages in when the whole game is 6 pages long?

I stopped wanting to read, sorry

[Not_Mafia]

Don’t let the implosion wagon die please, gamma counter wagon is good, dwlee one is meh

[Not_Mafia]

How do you like this one?

This is better

[Gamma Emerald]

I liked Gamma's entrance, it was good.

:/
you liked my entrance but didn't think to interact with it?

[Dwlee99]

I liked Gamma's entrance, it was good.

:/
you liked my entrance but didn't think to interact with it?

This is more on reread

[Gamma Emerald]

okay
would you like to participate atp or are you gonna opt out
I'd rather everyone do it but that seems very unlikely

[Dwlee99]

I thought it lost effectiveness after a certain point in the game but uhh but I'll pick you and flea.

[implosion]

VOTE: Datisi

Don't like his slate of posting so far. 14, 44, 46 and 47 all feel like "yes, i am here and doing things in this game, and thinking about things, how are you fellow townies". Especially the latter two. I also feel like the statement "my rvs vote is no longer rvs"

has

to be >rand scum. It just has to be. I don't really see how 20 from me being a "vaguely pointless question" makes it a scummy post. I can certainly understand seeing that post as scummy but I don't like the way Datisi's described it.

I want to call N_M's play so far townie and am not sure what Gamma is talking about with MURDERCAT about it.

Explain what's wrong with the first four posts you quoted.

I... did? It's not like it's incredibly complicated or robust or anything. (And I'm not really interested in convincing anyone anymore so)

I also don't vibe with your Datisi scumread, I feel 47 is town!indicative from him because if he were scum wanting to bullshit a read on me he would have likely checked the Coalition game first to see whether he could find something different in my play,

rather than claiming suspicion first without checking

. Forgetting that I naked voted in the last game doesn't feel to me like the kind of fake thought process that scum would make up if he knew I'm town here

i am not sure i like this. specifically the bolded part, that never happened. i didn't claim suspicion on you without checking - at the time of typing 47, i had already checked coalition and knew you weren't actually suspicious for naked voting.

you're correct that scum!me doesn't fake forgetting you naked voted there. however, implo is right in saying that it's possible (from your pov at least) that this is scum!me genuinely forgetting you naked voted in coalition, going back to check whether that's true and whether i can shitpush you on that basis, and then realizing that no, i cannot, because i misremembered; but hey, makes a nice ~solvey~ post.

like, this post gives me a vague feeling of guiltylion knowing i'm town and working backwards to make this post, as opposed to working out my alignment, if that makes sense?

I like this post (and I liked it before seeing that I got unvoted on the next page). I'm interested to see how GL's game plays forward because of how my read on him in coalition went (namely he was repeatedly posting things that I thought were very town). I don't want to like, BoP or like, burden of... something him based on that one game but.

VOTE: Datisi

Don't like his slate of posting so far. 14, 44, 46 and 47 all feel like "yes, i am here and doing things in this game, and thinking about things, how are you fellow townies". Especially the latter two. I also feel like the statement "my rvs vote is no longer rvs"

has

to be >rand scum. It just has to be. I don't really see how 20 from me being a "vaguely pointless question" makes it a scummy post. I can certainly understand seeing that post as scummy but I don't like the way Datisi's described it.

i don't

love

this obviously, but i can see where it's coming from. "how are you fellow townies" feels like a good enough description of my play so far (something something weak early game, rvs is bad), and while i'm tired of the "datisi scum because weak/akward/jokey tone!" reads, i've heard them from town enough times to not get worked up over them.

an egoistical part of me also wanted to say that i don't think implo chooses *me* to attack with such reasoning, but pretty sure he's also never seen my towngame, so /shrug.

also, i liked the first part of 86, so. UNVOTE:

This is an interesting response because part of my issue with those posts are that they kind of reminded me of things that i misread as town from you in the one game we've played together (that I remember at least). Unvoting me is also very interesting. It seems like it'd be pretty easy to double down here as scum when my wagon has even gained momentum since I posted this and I think there's plenty in my reasoning that you could object to on grounds that you could claim are alignment indicative.

[implosion]

But why would scum!Datisi go through with posting that regardless afterwards once he confirmed it wasn't indicative and I was consistent across the two games?

...why not? He'd just be doing it to emulate a town thought process. But etc.

I think dwlee's reaction to the votes on him is probably townish. It feels too willing to be in the limelight to be scum. I like Infinity's play so far though I'm definitely biased because she called me town when I was getting annoyed at the votes on me. Gamma's place in the game feels exactly like some distant memory of a game or two, years ago, where he was really contentious and I was hard townreading him and he was town.

[implosion]

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