Open 825 - PYP X/Y: HoS_S [game over!]

[Datisi]

vote count 1.08

with 14 votes in play, it takes 8 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-09-03 17:20:00).

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Thor Ragnarok [3]:

Miss Midnight, Cat Scratch Fever, the worst

House [3]:

ManateeGal, Gamma Emerald, Bee

Gamma Emerald [2]:

House, Harvey and Haley

Cat Scratch Fever [2]:

Thor Ragnarok, Enchant

Enchant [1]:

Titus

Harvey and Haley [1]:

Flea The Magician

ManateeGal [1]:

PenguinPower

not voting [1]:

Something_Smart

mod notes

~ thanks for the kind wishes <3

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[Harvey and Haley]

the worst also gets a fancy sign of his own since he picks 3 every game, so his high position is less relevant.

Something_Smart also picks 9 every game. It's strange to me that you know that but not this, and also that I knew this but not that; not until someone pointed it out.

Interesting. Wonder what sort of metagaming this could lead to.

-Harvey

[Miss Midnight]

What would be scummy about that, Miss Midnight?

I didn't say it was scummy. I just said it was strange.

[Harvey and Haley]

Cat Scratch Fever is town unless she's scum with 2 players who are also unaware the worst selects the number 3 every game. She'd have no reason to also pick 3 had she known

Thor: does this factor in to your overall current read on CSF?

-Harvey

[Thor Ragnarok]

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. It does make her more likely town unless she isn't scum with a few specific players + anyone who did proper research

VOTE: Miss Midnight

[Miss Midnight]

Spicy, but not spicy enough. I need more spice from you.

[Harvey and Haley]

So, if I scumlean both Cat Scratch Fever and Gamma Emerald, I will be voting the cat. I will be more willing to give the benefit of the doubt to Titus if she feels scummy, and I will be more wary and cautious if someone like Miss Midnight feels towny.

Given two votes on Gamma already, and your statement here (keeping aside that the premise of the earlier parts of that post has been discarded) wouldn't that be a stronger vote for you?

-Harvey

[Bee]

I think Thor is town. .-. Why would you fake that level of number analysis and keep going with it when you’re adept at faking things and could do normal things to get you townread? Calling it busywork seems shallow and if he was scum wouldn’t he have partners saying like “say this or that” instead of him keeping himself caught up in it?

And if he believes it for real then he’s just town anyways.

[Flea The Magician]

Its busywork as it gets nowhere, but the belief in it and attempts to mechsolve seem genuine at least.

[Bee]

It reminds me of you in Silent Star.

[Bee]

I associate busywork with negative too and I think people are using it as a scumread way.

[Miss Midnight]

To be clear, that analysis was done by Hoopla, not Thor.

Spoiler:

Subject: Open 794 Pick Your Power X/Y (finished)

yesterday i was skimming the run of pyp where skitt was scum, and i think someone there said it's happened once? the numbers being 2/2/6

i dunno if it's happened since, but i'm too lazy to check.

fwiw my guess weould've been something like 3 so

none.

that game you're talking about was open 630. the mod made a mistake and didn't let scum talk pregame, which resulted in two scum picking the same number. so, never willingly.

scum simply don't like sacrificing good draft position for potential WIFOM trickery. well, it isn't really WIFOM since scum never do it. we can fairly confidently declare there is only 1 (at most) scum within paired and tripled numbers.

you can even see visually that scum end up disproportionately higher in the draft compared to the bottom half. it's actually quite glaring how much of an advantage knowing two other numbers and avoiding them can be;

draft positions of 42 scum in 14 PYP games:

1st - xxx
2nd - xxxxx
3rd - xxx
4th - xxx
5th - xxxxxx
6th - xxx
7th - xxx
8th - xxx
9th - xxxxx
10th - xx
11th - x
12th -x
13th - xx
14th - xx

we execute in the top half of the playerlist today, and preferably a singleton.

Subject: Open 794 Pick Your Power X/Y (finished)

it gets worse;

draft numbers selected by 42 scum across 14 games;

1 - xxxxxxxx
2 - xxx
3 - xxx
4 - xxxx
5 - xxxx
6 - xxxx
7 - x
8 - xxx
9 - x
10 - xx
11 - x
12 - x
13 - x
15 - x
20 - x
22 - x
42 - xx
413 - x

[Thor Ragnarok]

(most of the credit goes to hoopla)

Yes, I just added the extra data from that game

[Thor Ragnarok]

So, if I scumlean both Cat Scratch Fever and Gamma Emerald, I will be voting the cat. I will be more willing to give the benefit of the doubt to Titus if she feels scummy, and I will be more wary and cautious if someone like Miss Midnight feels towny.

Given two votes on Gamma already, and your statement here (keeping aside that the premise of the earlier parts of that post has been discarded) wouldn't that be a stronger vote for you?

-Harvey

No, because I liked what he said about me in the last page

[Thor Ragnarok]

I think Thor is town. .-. Why would you fake that level of number analysis and keep going with it when you’re adept at faking things and could do normal things to get you townread? Calling it busywork seems shallow and if he was scum wouldn’t he have partners saying like “say this or that” instead of him keeping himself caught up in it?

And if he believes it for real then he’s just town anyways.

My saviour... I'll pay it off my debt to you across my lifetime using any sushi I can find

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: House

[Harvey and Haley]

when you’re adept at faking things

You know who's behind the Thor alt? .o.

P-edit. VOTE: House

-Harvey

[Flea The Magician]

It reminds me of you in Silent Star.

Which one?

[PenguinPower]

when you’re adept at faking things

You know who's behind the Thor alt? .o.

P-edit. VOTE: House

-Harvey

mmmm?

weren't you just voting gamma with house?

[Something_Smart]

I disagree, why town can't try to get best PR (VIGILANTE)?

You mean, the best PR to take away from scum? One-shot vig is surely not better than cop or doctor, but it is much better for scum.

[Something_Smart]

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Quality meme.

[Something_Smart]

Oh it wasn't a meme. Yeah uh most mods either use the tags (you can play around with these, but not in a game) or random.org.

[Titus]

Interesting the House wagon picks up now and not when he was being a drama king.

Thor is still not scumhunting.

VOTE: Thor

[PenguinPower]

tbf i did say i was going to wait for a votecount

[Harvey and Haley]

weren't you just voting gamma with house?

Lost interest in that for now, House is null to me, and there's momentum here.

-Harvey