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Enchant · Post Post #1275 (ISO) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:30 am

In post 1272, Titus wrote:
In post 1259, Enchant wrote:Imagine not watching IC as Watcher.
How do you know this didn't happen?

Do you see person screaming "X VISITED JOLUNE"?

I don't see.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #1276 (ISO) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:31 am

In post 1275, Enchant wrote:
In post 1272, Titus wrote:
In post 1259, Enchant wrote:Imagine not watching IC as Watcher.
How do you know this didn't happen?
Do you see person screaming "X VISITED JOLUNE"?

I don't see.

There could be ninja and I also don't think everyone checked in yet tbf

Titus · Post Post #1277 (ISO) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:33 am

In post 1276, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 1275, Enchant wrote:
In post 1272, Titus wrote:
In post 1259, Enchant wrote:Imagine not watching IC as Watcher.
How do you know this didn't happen?
Do you see person screaming "X VISITED JOLUNE"?

I don't see.
There could be ninja and I also don't think everyone checked in yet tbf

Yeah, this is a case for a weak scumslip from Enchant.

Enchant · Post Post #1278 (ISO) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:48 am

"scumslip"

Excuse me?

ssbm_Kyouko · Post Post #1279 (ISO) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:13 am

In post 1277, Titus wrote:
In post 1276, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 1275, Enchant wrote:
In post 1272, Titus wrote:
In post 1259, Enchant wrote:Imagine not watching IC as Watcher.
How do you know this didn't happen?
Do you see person screaming "X VISITED JOLUNE"?

I don't see.
There could be ninja and I also don't think everyone checked in yet tbf
Yeah, this is a case for a weak scumslip from Enchant.

O p P o R t U n I s T i C
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ssbm_Kyouko · Post Post #1280 (ISO) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:13 am

VOTE: Titus

Dwlee99 · Post Post #1281 (ISO) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:24 am

Scumslip because he would know ninja/no ninja? Or something else?

Titus · Post Post #1282 (ISO) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:49 am

In post 1281, Dwlee99 wrote:Scumslip because he would know ninja/no ninja? Or something else?

This or that there is no watcher. It's not a 100% guilty scumflip just odd as there are alternative non role related reasons to say that. It's just possible. If it was a guarantee, I'd approach it differently.

Titus · Post Post #1283 (ISO) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:49 am

It also fishes for a watcher claim.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1284 (ISO) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 6:00 am

In post 1267, Kazyan wrote:but at the end of the day, it had nothing to say about how much the Alice wagon sucked.

It goes without saying that it sucked and I did not join it.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1285 (ISO) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 6:04 am

In post 1215, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 1139, DrippingGoofball wrote:Can we speed yeet me?

There's only 6 hours left, most players scumread me and I'm VT.

In post 1140, DrippingGoofball wrote:VOTE: DrippingGoofball

At least we won't be outing PRs for nothing.

In post 1147, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1145, GrandpaMo wrote:I claim for AliceK to claim now.
.

Vote me, scum.
Like these.

What more did you want me to do? If anything you should accuse me of TMI and whitenighting, not lacking force in my opposition to the wagon.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1286 (ISO) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 6:05 am

For a player claiming to have spent the whole night looking for scum, Kazyan sure missed a doozie.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1287 (ISO) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 6:28 am

In post 1212, Enchant wrote:What Vengebait?

What vengeful? Why town have killing potential in 2 scum game?

In post 1218, Enchant wrote:
In post 1157, Jolyne wrote:blatant venge play, ignore and move on. Let scum nightkill it
That's not Kuba.

I don't believe mod is insane enough to put killers in 2 scum game.

In post 1222, Enchant wrote:Jolyne.

There's 2 mafia on your words.

Why mod could give Town killing power? It's unbalanced.

The notion that I was playing "vengeful" is funny, but Enchant might have actually WORRIED and felt it was UNFAIR, as scum would.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1288 (ISO) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 6:29 am

In post 1177, Enchant wrote:Imagine placing IC in game without protectives, so this person will be nightkilled instantly.

Maybe that's why there are only two scums.

Enchant · Post Post #1289 (ISO) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 6:54 am

Yes.

I think it's unfair. So there's no Vengeful.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1290 (ISO) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 7:02 am

Actually, re-reading, I'm not seeing Enchant!scum.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1291 (ISO) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 7:03 am

AliceK (7)Titus;GrandpaMo;Kazyan;Dwlee99;Nathann;Enchant;Jolyne;
Kazyan (4)ssbm_Kyouko;Andresvmb;Ythan;DrippingGoofball;

It's unfortunate that Jolyne robbed us of the information we could have gotten by forcing the scum to hammer. The scum would have hammered if present.

I'm going to iso everyone on that wagon.

Titus · Post Post #1292 (ISO) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 8:03 am

Ssbm has a way too strong overreaction to me asking if something was a scumslip or not.

Kazyan · Post Post #1293 (ISO) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 9:18 am

@Andre and GMo

, talk to me about how you see Dwlee's claim and DGB right now. I want to hear from you two specifically.

Kazyan · Post Post #1294 (ISO) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 9:21 am

Actually, scratch the DGB request; sorting Enchant and figuring out Dwlee's claim are my priorities.

Nathann · Post Post #1295 (ISO) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 9:24 am

Re Kazyan's 1248: (Don't have time nor energy to read the entire thing in depth, so I'll be ctrl+F'ing names of interest.)

Why are Dwlee and Ythan actually your main targets for today?

For Dwlee, all I see is that Enchant looks like a designated misyeet for them, that they folded over their Townread of Kazyan when Kyouko suggested otherwise (where did this happen? I cannot find it), a relatively empty Townread of geraintm, and the dislike of 571. I don't think the first and the third one are really that Scummy, the second one I obviously don't get, and I don't think I get what's so bad about the fourth one either - could you elaborate? Oh, I guess the first paragraph within the spoiler also talks about Dwlee, but considering you said the same applies to me and that you Townread me, I assume it's a positive?

For Ythan, I'm not sure I found anything saying why you're Scumreading him specifically, as all the analysis around him seems to be based on whether he can be a partner to different players. Why is he a -2 on the Townosity scale?

Also, please do use post tags to link posts in the future, makes it much easier to follow along.

Nathann · Post Post #1296 (ISO) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 9:36 am

In post 1249, Dwlee99 wrote:Okay I thought that Kazyan was a restricted watcher but clearly that isn't the case if he is okay saying he wants to be eliminated. I'm a backup watcher and could have sworn that was what he was softing which is why I went along with it so hard but I think now it might be a red herring based on mod meta but I'm not sure what to make of what I thought was Kazyan's soft

For the record, I too thought Kazyan was softing a Watcher. At first I thought he was just softing

something

, then I realized there was the word "watch" there.

I also have some thoughts on Dwlee's claim, but considering Kazyan's request to Andres to talk about it, I'll keep my mouth shut until after that happens.

From Today, I'm getting some Townie pings from DGB, mainly its defense of Kazyan. I don't imagine Scum would swoop in and defend the suspected TPR. Unless they're partners, but then I don't imagine it would've been voting them yesterday. Though I am looking forward to seeing it do the ISOs.

Kyouko, did you change your mind on Kazyan in the meantime or do you just find Titus scummier?

Kazyan · Post Post #1297 (ISO) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 9:50 am

In post 1295, Nathann wrote:Re Kazyan's 1248: (Don't have time nor energy to read the entire thing in depth, so I'll be ctrl+F'ing names of interest.)

Why are Dwlee and Ythan actually your main targets for today?

For Dwlee, all I see is that Enchant looks like a designated misyeet for them, that they folded over their Townread of Kazyan when Kyouko suggested otherwise (where did this happen? I cannot find it), a relatively empty Townread of geraintm, and the dislike of 571. I don't think the first and the third one are really that Scummy, the second one I obviously don't get, and I don't think I get what's so bad about the fourth one either - could you elaborate? Oh, I guess the first paragraph within the spoiler also talks about Dwlee, but considering you said the same applies to me and that you Townread me, I assume it's a positive?

For Ythan, I'm not sure I found anything saying why you're Scumreading him specifically, as all the analysis around him seems to be based on whether he can be a partner to different players. Why is he a -2 on the Townosity scale?

Also, please do use post tags to link posts in the future, makes it much easier to follow along.

They're my main targets because of...well, the reasons you went over. Dwlee has been a scumread for me for this whole game, and my heart is now in it. For Ythan in particular, some posts in his ISO looked scummy even if we take partner-like behavior out of the picture, e.g. 1235 pings me as scum just trying to get a reaction in during an eventful hammer instead of being conspicuously absent. That was something I did in my one scumgame here.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #1298 (ISO) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:34 am

I could see it being a scumslip but I'm not completely vibing with that. I think the moon logic is more likely to come from town!Titus though so I don't really understand Kyo's vote there.

Nathann · Post Post #1299 (ISO) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:49 am

@Kazyan, do you have opinions on my read on geraintm? I felt it was similar to how you describe Dwlee's, curious to see what you think. Also, could you explain what you meant by Dwlee folding over their Townread of you when Kyouko suggested otherwise? Oh, you mean on Day 2?

In post 1273, Dwlee99 wrote:I started thinking about it when Kyo said she thought the soft was scummy

What is this referring to again?

Also, I'm not buying the scumslip actually being >rand scumtell. It seems like a pretty reasonable guess for Town to make, considering everyone but one person checked in. Moonlogic does look okay, but I'm still overall unimpressed by Titus, so /shurg.