White flag #824 game over

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

me too buddy

[Not_Mafia]

legitimately, do you not care that you're hurting others' ability to enjoy the game? i could join a new one, but i'm invested in this one already and it feels like it's stopped mattering.

My ability to enjoy a game is hurt when people are overactive, spam wall posts and/or drag days out unnecessarily, we all have different playstyles and methodologies and I'm not responsible for how you want to play or think the game should function.

do you at least understand why i'm frustrated here?

Not really tbh, we have 3 days to hit one of two scum and there's been plenty of activity and interactions.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

My ability to enjoy a game is hurt when people are overactive, spam wall posts and/or drag days out unnecessarily

lol you dont even read games dont front

[Not_Mafia]

NSG has also essentially been given a free for a gameday and a half by virtue of being a replacement

[Not_Mafia]

My ability to enjoy a game is hurt when people are overactive, spam wall posts and/or drag days out unnecessarily

lol you dont even read games dont front

Not when people are overactive, spam wall posts and/or drag days out unnecessarily I don't.

[Infinity 324]

My ability to enjoy a game is hurt when people are overactive, spam wall posts and/or drag days out unnecessarily, we all have different playstyles and methodologies and I'm not responsible for how you want to play or think the game should function.

i'm definitely willing to compromise here. i understand why this would be frustrating to you, and i definitely would try to limit my posting and move towards ending the day when it needs to be ended if you agreed not to end the day earlier. for me, i've been waiting to get more time so i can post more than the one line of content i've given so far. if days always ended at the point we're at now, it wouldn't feel like a real game of mafia to me.

i'm not actually sure if a compromise is possible here, and maybe it would be best if we avoided each other in games in the future, but i'm willing to try.

[Not_Mafia]

Okay fine, seeing as you’re being reasonable

[Enchant]

NM, quickhammer go?

Let’s do it

VOTE: North

[Not_Mafia]

I’d feel bad now

[Enchant]

You scaring me.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if any1 can end the game by hammering their own scumbuddy its you NM

[GuiltyLion]

UNVOTE:

I'm willing to give Infinity time and I also kinda want to double check how goats/bugs interacted with each other on D1 if at all

I haven't committed to a reread yet been a busy work week

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: NSG

[implosion]

Yeah I'm basically always voting Dwlee here especially after the talk about implosion's AtE.

Pooky, NM, Klick, and Infinity can be trusted. Maybe Flea.

I think GL's vote on Dwlee can easily be partnered. I would call GL my second top scumread right now.

This is a fascinating post by virtue of it mentioning every now-living player except nsg/bugspray. That "can be trusted" list i think is pretty likely to contain scum, though like, I don't think that's like a breathtaking revelation since I definitely think that even without this post. I'd be not massively but a little surprised if the list contained both other scum. There's definitely a valid interpretation of this post that points to nsg-scum though I don't think it's really compelling.

There are a couple things in the ISO that look vaugely s->s prodding of Flea to do stuff but not strongly (283, 319)

The interesting turning point in their ISO is after I call them out, they say they're bored and then I think they never really had the level of engagement or interest in the game from that point on that they had when they were tunneling GL and widely being called vaguely town. goats did kinda rail against the bugspray wagon. That whole page, I feel like, should be really valuable for discerning nsg's alignment. Like, is 517 just a big lampshade? I guess the question is first off, what would scum do in that situation if they see bugspray being wagoned based on bugspray's alignment. If bugspray is town then they could join it or advocate for it, but goats was definitely trying to be relatively focused in their suspicions toward GL, Dwlee and sometimes MC. I think the trying to deflect the wagon is definitely possible if bugspray is town. The other important context is (as Infinity pointed out) the wagon at that point was probably all town (Gamma, Dwlee, Datisi, me, Infinity). Maybe goats-scum would have been less reluctant to call the bugspray wagon good or at least not-terrible if it was an all-town wagon on town. On the flip side if bugspray is scum then the question is just would goats be so explicit about defending a scumbuddy who, at that point in the game, I think would look pretty solidly like dead weight.

[cyrus62]

vote count 3.2

Northsidegal

: (4),PookyTheMagicalBear,Dwlee99,Enchan,Not_Mafia,
Not Voting:(5) Northsidegal,FleaThemagician,infinity324, implosion,GuiltyLion with 9 alive it takes 5 votes to be kicked off the island

day3 ends in

(expired on 2021-09-02 18:37:50) p.s i think im doing good with vcs thank you

[Dwlee99]

Goats seems desperate to stop the bugs wagon so maybe we are on the right track?

Goats seems desperate to stop the bugs wagon so maybe we are on the right track?

yeah one person thinking a wagon is bad means they're partners and the wagon is good actually

excellent logic dwlee

There is also this sequence

[implosion]

I mentioned 517. I do think goats is arrogant enough to post it as scum-scum w/ bugs but I don't think that precludes it being scum-town.

[Dwlee99]

Oh there was no link so I just saw a number and blanked

[GuiltyLion]

so with N_M's vote on NSG it pretty much certainly means her partner would be in flea/infinity/implosion right?

I doubt that scum would be incentivized to carry out a bus on a buddy on D1 in this set up, even if they look like dead weight. Distancing definitely in play but I don't know if I would think that scum!goats paired with scum!bugs would be

more

likely to vote there once it picks up 4-5 votes, I could buy them instead trying to promote the idea that the slot is just low hanging fruit

[Infinity 324]

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

This is outed actually. He was angry at bugspray being a baboon, implying anger at bugspray's stupidity or lack of reading comprehension. But then he votes bugspray on the basis that they were mafia and intentionally trying to make them look bad. Which makes them scum, not someone who lacks reading comprehension. I think Gamma is mafia who got tilted at being suspected for the wrong reasons by a townie who didn't read their post properly. Which is why he initially calls them a baboon and then switches to a fake reason to attack them after.

And this feels massively over explanatory for page 4/5...

That's because it is.

i feel like this is something a scumbuddy isn't super likely to respond to.

[Infinity 324]

gl has a great point about the possible nsg bussers. i really don't see implo as scum and i tr flea too so that probably means nsg is just town here? it's more likely someone bussed bloodhail imo than someone is bussing nsg here.

[Dwlee99]

[insert link to white flag gambit here]

[Dwlee99]

I still believe in my case on NSG from day one and she is also AWOL

[Infinity 324]

white flag gambit is one thing, but enchant and nm were about to hammer. scum are almost definitely not gonna white flag gambit if there's a risk of a qh.

[Flea The Magician]

so with N_M's vote on NSG it pretty much certainly means her partner would be in flea/infinity/implosion right?

I doubt that scum would be incentivized to carry out a bus on a buddy on D1 in this set up, even if they look like dead weight. Distancing definitely in play but I don't know if I would think that scum!goats paired with scum!bugs would be

more

likely to vote there once it picks up 4-5 votes, I could buy them instead trying to promote the idea that the slot is just low hanging fruit

Go on then, on what planet am I scum with NSG?