Dance of the Title Thread: Resurgence in wild?

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Post Post #3825 (ISO) » Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:12 am

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You can disagree that the noms are mediocre/impersonal. That's fine and normal for aesthetic discussions. But I really dislike the approach of dismissing legitimate reservations about noms either just because people have been discussing noms for a while, or just because the reservations are being misinterpreted as a call for perfection.
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Post Post #3826 (ISO) » Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:48 am

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I don't want to get into a heated discussion about this but I feel like Jake has been making a good faith effort to contribute to Nancy's title's discussion.
I agree that his discussion around other titles was perhaps not the best but I feel like he is making a legitimate effort here and truly likes one of the titles so I think it's important to not mark that off as bad faith. Like people can disagree with his arguments but I legitimately believe that he's making a good faith effort here.
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Post Post #3827 (ISO) » Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:42 am

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ok ya'll wanna whinge about titles, here's my 2 pence.

Spoiler: My thoughts on it.
These are here for fun, a sign of recognition and affection from the community.

You wanna moan about titles not fitting or being telling of a person? I picked out 4 titles on 150, and I have no clue what they mean or what they say about a person, one tells me I should maybe even avoid a person.

Not that inno scent works for me given that I caught Nancy with a freaking 1 shot loyal neighbouriser where she and pooks were reasonably safe reads. Ive read the games in her signature and I genuinely dread the day I have to play even semi-seriously against her because I'm getting WHUPPED.
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That's why I just backed them, and I suspect people will have difference takes on them too.

Different people have different views and different humour and different connections. These are meant to be a nice thing for people. Don't be knocking them for silly reasons :(
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Post Post #3828 (ISO) » Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:35 am

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I just want to say how much I <3 Flea and Noraa. Carry on. :)
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Post Post #3829 (ISO) » Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:21 am

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In post 3815, Jake The Wolfie wrote:*with no better alternative

What you're missing here is that there is a better alternative that she deserves, because it better encapsulates her as a whole, instead of one very specific thing she does.
Responding to this as all of the related posts to cut down on wasted space:

I’m not really missing the context. I’m aware that you think inno scent is the better title, and that may well be true but that doesn’t really change my stance.

Given:

A. The recent trend of offering multiple titles as options.
B. The potential for a person with a title to receive a new title.
C. The number of titles that have come based on other people seeing/workshopping suggestions.

The argument that a title shouldn’t be considered because it’s not good enough is a poor reason to shut down a title.

The argument you elaborated into: that inno scent encompasses a larger portion of Nancy’s personality, is a good argument to prefer that title.

For clarity’s sake, I don’t think any of the jake feedback on the Nancy title has been out of line and he’s definitely engaging in good faith here. If it came across that way that was unintentional.
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Post Post #3830 (ISO) » Mon Aug 30, 2021 2:40 pm

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In post 3832, Noraa wrote:I don't want to get into a heated discussion about this but I feel like Jake has been making a good faith effort to contribute to Nancy's title's discussion.
I agree that his discussion around other titles was perhaps not the best but I feel like he is making a legitimate effort here and truly likes one of the titles so I think it's important to not mark that off as bad faith. Like people can disagree with his arguments but I legitimately believe that he's making a good faith effort here.
I agree with this by the way, my comments have not been towards Jake. Even more, I think that Jake always makes a good faith effort, or at least he has got better to express what he thinks a long time ago
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Post Post #3831 (ISO) » Mon Aug 30, 2021 2:59 pm

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Mastina can we offer both of the supported titles and allow Nancy to choose? Kinda over the useless arguing.
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Post Post #3832 (ISO) » Mon Aug 30, 2021 3:31 pm

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In post 3839, CheekyTeeky wrote:Mastina can we offer both of the supported titles and allow Nancy to choose? Kinda over the useless arguing.
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Post Post #3833 (ISO) » Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:03 pm

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In post 3839, CheekyTeeky wrote:Mastina can we offer both of the supported titles and allow Nancy to choose? Kinda over the useless arguing.
up for this

also a reminder that we do discuss other things other than each other, let's get some noms going!
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Post Post #3834 (ISO) » Tue Aug 31, 2021 2:18 am

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yeah i mean i won't throw a fit if the noms get approved; they aren't like bad per se
sure wish it were as easy for me to come up with noms as it is to whine about them
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Post Post #3835 (ISO) » Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:48 am

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In post 3841, Cook wrote:also a reminder that we do discuss other things other than each other, let's get some noms going!
I don't think anyone has any nomination propositions for anyone else.
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Post Post #3836 (ISO) » Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:26 pm

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I want to nom Nero for #1 Humble American Pie, if it needs to be explained then it's probably not a good title because I feel like it fully embodies the way I perceive him. It would be cool to get some ideas rolling on a title for Nero Cain anyways.
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Post Post #3837 (ISO) » Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:38 pm

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I'd need it explained to me.

Furthermore, I'm not really sure Citizen Cain has done anything remarkable notable that deserves a title, but I haven't really paid much attention to them.
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Post Post #3838 (ISO) » Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:32 pm

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I think Nero got a title nom a while back, lemme check
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Post Post #3839 (ISO) » Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:33 pm

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In post 2762, Jingle wrote:
In post 2757, Aristophanes wrote:Inb4 yall get a warning for being off topic
pffft. Mastina thinks I'm too entertaining to warn about being off topic.

On the other hand:

Nom Nero for Last Centurion.

I have reticence based on the fact that it is a Doctor Who reference and Nero doesn't particularly strike me as a Doctor Who person. However, I think the title fits despite the Doctor Who reference and it's not like the storytelling concept is unique to that storyline.

It's a nod to both sides of his username (Nero being a Roman emperor and Cain being the first murderer, cursed to wander the earth, protected from being murdered and functionally immortal in some popular mythologies (Cain implies he actually was a Roman Centurion at some point in the movie He Never Died, for example.). It also references his longevity and the fact that he's been pretty constant throughout ms's history while still remaining the same NC we've known for years. While others have come and gone, Nero has been here, playing mafia and watching the site change around him, a remnant of a forgotten age.

Also, it's less potentially insulting than While Rome Burned as it doesn't imply Nero was passive in the face of the collapse of MS.
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Post Post #3840 (ISO) » Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:44 pm

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That's a really good title and justification from Jingle. Maybe even just "Centurion"
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Post Post #3841 (ISO) » Tue Aug 31, 2021 2:18 pm

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I think #1 Centurion captures what was wanted in The Last Centurion without the implication that he has longevity in mafia games, which isn't always true
plus #1 feels like a good sticking point from your submission
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Post Post #3842 (ISO) » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:17 pm

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Nth #1 Centurion
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Post Post #3843 (ISO) » Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:20 pm

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Wow that is an an good title for someone, finally.

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Post Post #3844 (ISO) » Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:22 pm

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Nero does strike me as an powerful warrior from an older time. But still going at it in the fullest.
He also tends to have a bit of an brute streak to his personality, which fits the image of an older days military man.
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Post Post #3845 (ISO) » Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:25 pm

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Just "Centurion" is the best imo.
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Post Post #3846 (ISO) » Wed Sep 01, 2021 2:07 am

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nth centurion
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Post Post #3847 (ISO) » Wed Sep 01, 2021 2:30 am

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centur

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Post Post #3848 (ISO) » Wed Sep 01, 2021 5:16 am

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In post 3853, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Just "Centurion" is the best imo.
+1, if there was doubt.


Notably, I like that this gets away from the Dr. Who bit which was a good reason it didn't fit in the first place.
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Post Post #3849 (ISO) » Wed Sep 01, 2021 5:21 am

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