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Post Post #825 (ISO) » Wed Sep 01, 2021 5:53 am

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It was unintentional and I would rather just not do it again because that’s what matters more than an apology. In my culture I was taught that apologizes don’t mean anything and that it’s better to just not do it. Rereading I realized I did so I apologize
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Post Post #826 (ISO) » Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:02 am

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I dunno guess there was a gap in my education ig
Maybe that’s why I’m just horrendous at this apology thing
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Post Post #827 (ISO) » Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:07 am

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In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=12973777#p12973777]post 823[/url], The M&Ms wrote:Ya this narative spinning is something that ur doing a lot and it’s not townie
it feels very narrativy but I’m not convinced it’s scum agenda rather than confbiased town
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Post Post #828 (ISO) » Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:16 am

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In post 821, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 819, marcistar wrote:i can see how i dont look like a townie, i think i sometimes play kinda scummy.
why can you see how you don’t look like a townie?

I remember you and George as town were kind of elimbait for the longest time in Newbie 2058 so I buy this as a statement in general
uhh
im not sure how to explain this well.
i think its just generally my playstyle. i do a lot of what people see as "scummy behavior" without thinking sometimes,
i remember my very first game on site i rolled vt and got taken to e-1 so early on :cool: :cool:

i like never get townread so like thats why i think its just generally how i play. but i kinda lowkey dont care enough to change it, im just gonna play how i want :roll:
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Post Post #829 (ISO) » Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:19 am

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VOTE: georgebailey
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Post Post #830 (ISO) » Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:21 am

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In post 767, innocentvillager wrote:so when he brings this up he's only ever scum if he's with innocentvillager, marcistar, GeorgeBailey as an excuse to save them UNLESS he thinks town is so apathetic that we're just never going to kill him or his partner (think that's too weird of gambit in this crowd ?)
i mean my problem is that currently both george and marci are below my null line so this doesn't do Much to convince me

and like, considering you have both of those as null/conflicted, i am kind of ? at you dismissing math!scum based on this when 2/3 of his possible partners you don't townread
In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=12973250#p12973250]post 786[/url], The M&Ms wrote:I think Faker/Datisi containing scum is likely bullshit until people in the pool of {George, Math, IV, Marci} start flipping town.
what's the reason behind that pool and my alignment being dependent on it?
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Post Post #831 (ISO) » Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:22 am

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VOTE: George
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Post Post #832 (ISO) » Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:28 am

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@marci can you do like a general readslist with a few words for each player?

@iv i would like a response to

ok i don't think i have much to say that hasn't already been said, someone yell at me if i am needed
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Post Post #833 (ISO) » Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:29 am

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In post 767, innocentvillager wrote:he's not doing a great job saving his partner marci or George if my elimination doesn't go through
Datisi I did say that as the first reasoning

But then my part two i think is basically just he’s not doing a great job saving Marci or George especially by whiteknighting me so really I think the only pairing to me that makes a whole lot of sense objectively is with me
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Post Post #834 (ISO) » Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:33 am

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In post 833, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 767, innocentvillager wrote:he's not doing a great job saving his partner marci or George if my elimination doesn't go through
Datisi I did say that as the first reasoning

But then my part two i think is basically just he’s not doing a great job saving Marci or George especially by whiteknighting me so really I think the only pairing to me that makes a whole lot of sense objectively is with me
why is the possibility of "scum!math is failing at saving his partner" not an option there?

actually ehh saving you does look kinda weird there
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Post Post #835 (ISO) » Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:37 am

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ok fineee

without going into too many specifics bc I’m gonna play with you again probably lol

i think scum!you will appear townier than town!you. I feel like your presence isn’t dominating the game and you are letting things flow but still pushing the things that stick to you. I feel like scum you is a bit more lamisty and I think a lot of people would be fooled by the depth of thought to them. I’m recalling something like 2175 where your scumgame just had everyone straight up fooled, but the towngames I’ve seen you in (TM, 2207, 2180 less so I think u were p townie D2? Idk) you weren’t actually Overwhelm ppl with ur presence and monologues

I probably took some of it back a) not really wanted to explain my read too much (welp) b) maybe I shouldn’t be putting that much stock into old selective meta and c) if my “he’s not spewing town all over this game” alert isn’t going off maybe that’s still not a towntell d) because I felt like it. Idk like my opinion of u is very weird and it’s all kind of nebulous in my head, idk if any of that made sense
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Post Post #836 (ISO) » Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:38 am

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like I kind of think you know what it takes to dominate this game and you’re willing to put in the effort to improve your scumgame and I kinda feel like we’d see more of that this game if ur scum but idk how much I believe in that assumption
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Post Post #837 (ISO) » Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:48 am

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i want to say "if that's your opinion of my meta, why didn't you say anything at math saying that my meta is ~
datisi hates scum so if datisi is posting, datisi is town
~", but i'm aware that's more my ego speaking than anythign actually alignment indicative for you

though i guess it's *kind of* weird if you had thoughts along "if he's not townspewing, that's still not a towntell" and then like, didn't discuss that with math, but idk lol does anyone ever discuss every single thought they have? probably not and i'm nitpicking
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Post Post #838 (ISO) » Wed Sep 01, 2021 7:01 am

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In post 834, Datisi wrote:
In post 833, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 767, innocentvillager wrote:he's not doing a great job saving his partner marci or George if my elimination doesn't go through
Datisi I did say that as the first reasoning

But then my part two i think is basically just he’s not doing a great job saving Marci or George especially by whiteknighting me so really I think the only pairing to me that makes a whole lot of sense objectively is with me
why is the possibility of "scum!math is failing at saving his partner" not an option there?

actually ehh saving you does look kinda weird there
Because I quite literally do not fail D1 if I am scum. I have had maybe one game in the years I have been on site where I failed D1 but that was an already outed slot shooting for the moon. Anyone who knows my scum meta knows this.

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Post Post #839 (ISO) » Wed Sep 01, 2021 7:02 am

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oh ya I remember seeing him saying that and being like lmao no that’s completely false but I didn’t bother saying anything at the time idk
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Post Post #840 (ISO) » Wed Sep 01, 2021 7:02 am

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(1) i really do not care for "scum!me is better than this" arguments
(2) is iv even supposed to know that?
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Post Post #841 (ISO) » Wed Sep 01, 2021 7:04 am

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In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=12973790#p12973790]post 825[/url], The M&Ms wrote:It was unintentional and I would rather just not do it again because that’s what matters more than an apology. In my culture I was taught that apologizes don’t mean anything and that it’s better to just not do it. Rereading I realized I did so I apologize
Apologies mean a lot here in general because they get followed up with actions:

For me and how I grew up an apology is three fold
1) Address the pain you caused (regardless of if good intentions)
2) Address how you won’t do it again (eg avoid the circumstances that caused the hurt)
3) Do it.

I am sometimes shitty at this but this is what I learned for it.
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Post Post #842 (ISO) » Wed Sep 01, 2021 7:06 am

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In post 840, Datisi wrote:(1) i really do not care for "scum!me is better than this" arguments
(2) is iv even supposed to know that?
1) It’s evidence based. If you don’t care for evidence I can’t help you.
2) Yes. He knows me enough on site and considering I can do things like peg every PR in large normals this is accurate. You saw an off game in that mini normal.

Norway if town fears me for good reason so it’s more like having to bring my town game to be better for me
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Post Post #843 (ISO) » Wed Sep 01, 2021 7:07 am

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My town game (which we are currently in) is shit and I am working on it.

What irks me is the “I don’t see it” after laying out a case and no one says why they don’t disagree.

This only reinforces my scumread of M&M and makes me hate counter wagons
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Post Post #844 (ISO) » Wed Sep 01, 2021 7:11 am

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should i lay down the evidence of how many times you said "scum!me doesn't end up in this situation" as scum in that mini normal?
In post 843, MathBlade wrote:What irks me is the “I don’t see it” after laying out a case and no one says why they don’t disagree.
what's the case again? you can just link it if i missed it
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Post Post #845 (ISO) » Wed Sep 01, 2021 7:15 am

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In post 809, MathBlade wrote:>> M&Ms uses pictures to avoid content. The little content they do have they contradict themselves in the same post.
i've already explained this
In post 809, MathBlade wrote:>> M&Ms switches off of me to Marci because they know I won’t go down without a fight. They need an easy miselim.
this seems really unlikely
In post 809, MathBlade wrote:>> M&Ms tries to use a transphobic moment to throw me off my game and it didn’t work. At this point they could have easily dropped a fake “Sorry” and moved on back to their images, but all there is is a freakin + sign.
i don't think this is related to the game at all
In post 809, MathBlade wrote:>> M&Ms has now pivoted to George + Marci. No reason no explanation just convieniently the group a lot of people have whispered about. But then they pick Marci who iirc has the most votes of the two. M&ms just wants anyone at this point.
i don't think anyone is an easy lim at this point i don't think picking two people as scum and backing off a third means they want anyone
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Post Post #846 (ISO) » Wed Sep 01, 2021 7:18 am

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In post 844, Datisi wrote:should i lay down the evidence of how many times you said "scum!me doesn't end up in this situation" as scum in that mini normal?
In post 843, MathBlade wrote:What irks me is the “I don’t see it” after laying out a case and no one says why they don’t disagree.
what's the case again? you can just link it if i missed it
Already linked 809.

And in most of those cases what I was saying was accurate until the point I wanted to be elimmed.

Most of the cases were arguing a flawed premise. The conclusion was correct, me being scum, but the argument was wrong.

You are free to think I am scum all you wish but when I say scum!me doesn’t do X that’s pretty much truth.
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Post Post #847 (ISO) » Wed Sep 01, 2021 7:19 am

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Post Post #848 (ISO) » Wed Sep 01, 2021 7:22 am

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Post Post #849 (ISO) » Wed Sep 01, 2021 7:23 am

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well, that was my second guess, up until a few pages ago when it became my first lol
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