like at the time i'm the only person on george, and there's the arguments about math/m&m
after this vote, dwlee jumped on too
like why does he make this vote? the only reason i can think of is if he thought nobody was gonna bite and he could just lolunvote later and then dwlee fucked him over by going "actually lol i'mma just sheep datisi" and he got locked into the bus
but i feel like he could've just as easily NOT made that vote
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
imho std makes a little bit of sense as a shot in scum!iv world for reasons already stated (mainly scum!iv would need me alive to point out his play around george is the polar opposite of his usual scum partner interactions)
i know this is a stretch already and i can't figure out any good reasons for anyone else to shoot at std but like, i also don't think that was a bus so maybe it was just a kinda townie maybe pr shot? idk
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
like at the time i'm the only person on george, and there's the arguments about math/m&m
after this vote, dwlee jumped on too
like why does he make this vote? the only reason i can think of is if he thought nobody was gonna bite and he could just lolunvote later and then dwlee fucked him over by going "actually lol i'mma just sheep datisi" and he got locked into the bus
but i feel like he could've just as easily NOT made that vote
it sets him up in position to deepwolf knowing that he's on the wagon of the 1-shot strongman.
like at the time i'm the only person on george, and there's the arguments about math/m&m
after this vote, dwlee jumped on too
like why does he make this vote? the only reason i can think of is if he thought nobody was gonna bite and he could just lolunvote later and then dwlee fucked him over by going "actually lol i'mma just sheep datisi" and he got locked into the bus
but i feel like he could've just as easily NOT made that vote
it sets him up in position to deepwolf knowing that he's on the wagon of the 1-shot strongman.
but the point is that that bus wasn't forced at all - literally i was the only person who was suspecting george at the time, and you had math who was shading me for the vote and drilling it into everyone's heads how george is a shit vote because something something wagons.
like my point is that if std hadn't voted george then, there is very good chance that george's wagon never takes off in the first place
like do you think the thread atmosphere was going after george? do you think he was an inevitable day 1 yeet at the time? because i surely didn't get that feeling
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
also truth is
its impossible to defend george, so you might as well try to get some cred from it before you can't.
raybells has an article on this Datisi.
In post 1358, Datisi wrote:like do you think the thread atmosphere was going after george? do you think he was an inevitable day 1 yeet at the time? because i surely didn't get that feeling
to defend him against whom??? i was the only person voting him, i was being shouted out, and my reasonings themselves weren't that strong
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
In post 1358, Datisi wrote:like do you think the thread atmosphere was going after george? do you think he was an inevitable day 1 yeet at the time? because i surely didn't get that feeling
Yes
can you elaborate on this then? because this is the exact opposite of how i was feeling at the time
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
If you bussing your partner is going to make town massively stronger then fight to the death to keep them alive, because if one of you is gonna go down the both of you probably are.
ngl to me this sounds kinda like getting your strongman voted out day one in a game where you know there will be 1-2 tprs that will then gain the ability to hardclear or guilty people
maybe i shouldn't be arguing this because std can't live to endgame anyway and has to get cleared and i'll just look like a moron if it does turn out to be a bus
but ugh i don't see it
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
In post 1358, Datisi wrote:like do you think the thread atmosphere was going after george? do you think he was an inevitable day 1 yeet at the time? because i surely didn't get that feeling
Yes
can you elaborate on this then? because this is the exact opposite of how i was feeling at the time
If I get my push through on Marci, she claims JK and I back off. What happens after that?
I look towards MathBlade. I probably don't want to vote that because what I believed at that point in time is that his actions were independent and probably not scum motivated.
2 people left, IV and Geroge.
I think IV is fine but this is probably the other direction scum can go but it's not good in the long term because as people get townier and townier it gets harder and harder to keep up. Note that George was pushing IV (probably a villager) and STD was mostly going after, guess who, InnocentVillager.
If you bussing your partner is going to make town massively stronger then fight to the death to keep them alive, because if one of you is gonna go down the both of you probably are.
ngl to me this sounds kinda like getting your strongman voted out day one in a game where you know there will be 1-2 tprs that will then gain the ability to hardclear or guilty people
maybe i shouldn't be arguing this because std can't live to endgame anyway and has to get cleared and i'll just look like a moron if it does turn out to be a bus
but ugh i don't see it
It also says
1) If you have a really scummy partner who can be connected to you and is highly liable to get wagoned, hardbus him before the wagon starts and people will think that associative is a lot less likely. If the player was going to get lim'd anyway and defending them to keep them alive probably gets you lim'd the next day, you might as well get the towncred for their lim. You're informed, milk your information advantage for all it's worth.
now keep in mind Datisi, STD has probably not read this article. But the first thing is something you get to understand the more you play the alignment and STD is a Veteran.
i think we're disagreeing on what "highly liable to get wagoned" means, as well as risk/reward
like there was no way to know marci was gonna claim jk and that that push would go to shit
and to me it still feels like voting your strongman out is lowkey suicide and that risking tipping the wagon off is extremely bad but like
i'm too tired to argue about this when it doesn't even matter
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
idunno this game is over
Faker is not a wolf.
Datisi you're not a wolf
IV doesn't make sense to be a wolf and if he is like bro guy can't even win. Also throughout the whole game he defended MathBlade you think this guy's stances come from scum? 0 chance. Nada. Nope.
Norwee not a wolf.
Marci not a wolf.
Mathblade not a wolf.
ali, am i right in thinking that you basically never just hammer george out of the blue without getting him to out a pr on his way down
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
In post 1371, Datisi wrote:i think we're disagreeing on what "highly liable to get wagoned" means, as well as risk/reward
like there was no way to know marci was gonna claim jk and that that push would go to shit
and to me it still feels like voting your strongman out is lowkey suicide and that risking tipping the wagon off is extremely bad but like
i'm too tired to argue about this when it doesn't even matter
STD the next day thought that no one would vote him and he could maybe get to F3. I assumed that to be able to make such a ballsy play like bussing George, he found a PR. Guy didn't think he was going to get jailkept KEKW.
But yes, it is suicide. It is not smart Datisi but it is in fact what happened.
